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Post by deshacrafts on Jul 3, 2014 12:53:12 GMT
I think the situation makes the difference in my answer. If it is job related and there are things that need to be done and someone drops the ball (a detail) then it is a cop out to say they aren't detail oriented.
If in your life you can't function until every little detail is taken care of, you are detail oriented.
Any excuse for not doing a job well is just an excuse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 12:57:33 GMT
I don't really think it's a cop out. I just think that some people are more detail oriented than others.
I myself am so detail-oriented that I'm almost anal about some things. Especially silly things like the direction that the coffee cup handles are facing in the cupboard or how clothes are hung up in the closet. I have to go back and fix it. I don't complain if someone else does it though!
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Post by oldcrow on Jul 3, 2014 19:57:19 GMT
At work I worry and fuss about every little detail. They pay me to do this job so I need to give it 100% so I won't feel like I am cheating them.
At home must of the time a poor job is because I don't give a shit. And have other things I need my time for such as coming here.
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Post by M~ on Jul 3, 2014 20:57:59 GMT
Well, some professions require you to be detail-oriented and be able to see the big picture at the same time. I don't think these are mutually exclusive, nor they should be.
For example, I am responsible (along with my boss) of 1/2 of the team's workload (M-Z). I am required to move my caseload as a whole while at the same time performing daily tasks, keeping track of long-term projects and advising the Judge on general legal issues that are going to affect how we process cases as a whole (i.e., jurisdictional issues) versus big topic issues (that affect subsets of cases on the merits) and particular cases that we are working on. I also help her manage the other side of the alpha because my co-attorney is fairly new and I've been there 7 years.
I think any adult in any job setting needs to be sort of like a really expensive camera: you zoom in and zoom out as need to take really sharp pictures when your focus is necessary.
Saying, "I'm not detail oriented" is a cop-out for many.
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Post by scrappintoee on Jul 3, 2014 23:37:43 GMT
I've only had this problem with co-workers.....I agree that just because someone isn't detail oriented, doesn't mean they can't do the best they are able to! I am extreeemely detail-oriented, but I realize not everyone is.....Maybe they just need more time, and concentrate more, break up what they need to do into separate tasks.....but ..... ....don't get me started on LAZY people who just don't CARE....especially in the HEALTH CARE field where DETAILS are soooo important!!! Whenever I've worked with lazy, non-motivated, non-caring people, I just wanna SCREAM at them that they should NOT be in healthcare unless they pay ATTENTION, and if they have to check, re-check, and check the details AGAIN for the patient's safety, DO IT !!! My coworkers who PAY ATTENTION to important things and I have always had a saying..."being a bit "OCD"/ detail oriented in healthcare can save a patient's life!" ....ohhh, the stories I could tell !!!
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Post by mallie on Jul 4, 2014 0:26:16 GMT
Well, some professions require you to be detail-oriented and be able to see the big picture at the same time. I don't think these are mutually exclusive, nor they should be. I think any adult in any job setting needs to be sort of like a really expensive camera: you zoom in and zoom out as need to take really sharp pictures when your focus is necessary. Saying, "I'm not detail oriented" is a cop-out for many. I agree with the above. I know quite a few men who insist, like some of the husbands above, that they can't possibly remember to put coats on the kids in the winter or feed them supper while the game is on. Yet in their workplaces, they are responsible for all sorts of details and in their personal life, they can spout sports info while watching a game and eating. That tells me that its not about about details, it's about priorities.
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Post by polz on Jul 4, 2014 0:44:15 GMT
You just described my husband. Never notices if the bed is unmade or the fire is lit or there is laundry to fold but keeps 26 trucks maintained and up to code and running on schedule at work. All little details. DOES. MY. HEAD. IN!
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 4, 2014 20:39:32 GMT
have the philosophy that some people just are NOT detail oriented, when they don't do a thorough, accurate job at a task? Is it because they're strengths lie elsewhere, or just that they aren't careful/don't give a shit? Dh is ADHD and he does not see details. To me it's not a cop out, but it is very frustrating.
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Post by Ryann on Jul 4, 2014 21:32:37 GMT
I am a detail oriented person, so people who don't pay attention to details drive me crazy. Seriously, half the time I'm wondering how some people can miss details. Particularly the ones that practically leap out and smack you in the face. I've noticed that some people just don't care to do things right, paying attention to all the details that need to be addressed. Not being detail oriented is not an excuse for doing a poor job. Either do it right or don't do it at all. I get so frustrated with people who think that the details don't matter and that they can just half ass everything. Have some bloody ownership in your work and do it right. The first time. Rather than right out my own response, I'll just echo everything grinningcat has said. This drives me batty! I have a co-worker that just this week is trying to "play dumb" to the point of lying, even though she's been trained on a task twice (by two different people) and still can't get it right. She's the Executive Assistant to the owner of the company. After booking the owner's travel arrangements, she's supposed to input the reservation information into a spreadsheet so I can then keep track to make sure we receive commissions on the hotel/rental car bookings. Because she continually messes it up and/or does things half-ass, the task of making travel arrangements for the owner has been taken away from her and given to me. There are other people in the office that have issues with her lack of detail, this is just one example of my own frustration with her. Can you tell she drives me crazy?
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Post by peasapie on Jul 4, 2014 21:46:24 GMT
have the philosophy that some people just are NOT detail oriented, when they don't do a thorough, accurate job at a task? Is it because they're strengths lie elsewhere, or just that they aren't careful/don't give a shit? Depends on who is doing the judging and the situation. You might call it thorough and accurate. Someone else might consider it overkill. I know people who can kill you with discussing every detail and bit of minutiae and never get the main job done, while others who never finish a thing because they don't attend to important details.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 4, 2014 22:48:34 GMT
I'm pretty sure I tend towards ADD and when a lot of stimuli are coming my way, I really struggle with the details. That doesn't mean I can't be detailed oriented. I often am, but when I'm getting pulled in many ways (like in my classroom) I sometimes do not see or forget details. I have to pick my battles.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 4, 2014 23:16:00 GMT
I don't necessarily agree with most of this thread, LOL. Some people have difficulty with the details because their brain may work differently than yours. I recently found out that I have ADHD, and details escape me a lot. Even when I try very hard. Just a thought. This is exactly how my dh is and why I try not to let it get to me. He doesn't try to do a sloppy job, he just doesn't see all the little pieces that get the job done correctly. His hyperactivity also has him focusing on the next task before he's done with the current task. Again, just how his brain is wired, not him trying to get away with doing a sloppy job. I have worked in quality for the past 15 yrs so it's been hard learning to accept our differences!
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Post by PEArfect on Jul 4, 2014 23:29:42 GMT
I think labeling someone as detail oriented can be subjective. I would say in some areas I am, others no so much. Some people would say I am almost to the point of OCD, I would not.
Just makes me think of an individual's perception of a 'clean' house. A hoarder that makes a path throughout their house might consider that 'clean.' I would not.
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