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Post by chimom on Nov 9, 2014 23:10:42 GMT
We have several bird feeders in our yard and have always enjoyed helping the birds with food and water especially during the winter months. Today I witnessed a hawk swoop down and take one of the birds. Now I feel like I'm just drawing in the birds so the hawks can have a quick and easy meal. What would you do?
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 9, 2014 23:13:12 GMT
In some areas it's actually against the law to stop feeding birds once cold weather hits. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it's another thing to keep in mind when making your decision.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 23:14:27 GMT
I would stop, not because of the hawks, but because the availability of food prevents some of birds from migrating appropriately. It is the scarcity of food that drives many birds migration instincts. While the hawk is upsetting to me it is part of the life cycle/food chain that is natural.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 9, 2014 23:14:50 GMT
Oh, and hawks have to eat, too.  I know it's awful, but it's true. I would leave it, personally.
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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 9, 2014 23:17:47 GMT
Can you set the bird feeding area somewhere in the yard that will offer some protection? We moved ours under a tree and near some bushes for that reason. It keeps the Hawks from being able to make a flying swoop down to grab one and provides a little bit of hiding area for the little birds.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Nov 9, 2014 23:21:16 GMT
Are the feeders in the open? I agree with lovetodigi. I think you should continue to feed them but make sure you feed them in an area where there is some protection.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 23:23:37 GMT
We leave ours out all year. We have red shouldered hawks and bald eagles over our yard a lot. We are on a lake though, and they tend to go for the fish instead of other birds.
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Post by miss_lizzie on Nov 9, 2014 23:32:39 GMT
I love the idea of putting the feeders under some cover. We feed the birds every winter too.
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Post by chimom on Nov 9, 2014 23:53:10 GMT
Are the feeders in the open? I agree with lovetodigi. I think you should continue to feed them but make sure you feed them in an area where there is some protection. Our feeders, both seed and suet are in trees. We also feed squirrels. I'll look for a more protected area tomorrow. The hawk wasn't one of the usual ones I see in our area. It was much smaller. Witnessing what happened shocked me a bit. I haven't seen a bird since that happened. I get that it's nature, hawks need to eat too. I want to protect the birds and not have to clean up a hawk's "leftovers" again. Thanks for the answers. Much appreciated.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 10, 2014 0:00:28 GMT
We feed birds year round. A hawk visits from time to time. Remember--the hawk is just "making a living" also.
ETA: better birds than your cat or small dog becoming the hawk's meal.
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Post by chimom on Nov 10, 2014 0:03:58 GMT
Just went to the Illinois Raptor web site, just in case any one else is interested, they recommend not only moving the feeders but taking them down for a few days to get the hawk to move on.
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 10, 2014 0:05:34 GMT
I feed all year. Finches, sparrows, quail, mourning doves, jays and squirrels come to our feeders. We also have owls, hawks, bob cats and coyote. I've seen more jays eat the baby quail than I've seen hawks eat the other birds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 0:06:02 GMT
When we take the cranky woman out to the car, we always do kind of a duck and run so she doesn't get snatched out of our hands. Hawks are crafty hunters and will stalk prey and will take advantage of any opportunity to catch a tasty morsel.
I think it is too late for you to stop feeding. You can stop in the spring.
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 10, 2014 0:42:28 GMT
We had to take down our feeders as they were attracting bears.
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Post by likescarrots on Nov 10, 2014 1:01:57 GMT
The same thing happened to me last winter!!! I couldn't believe it. I saw it circle and I said 'there's a hawk out there!' and then all the sudden it swooped down to my bird feeder and took out a bird!  I didn't stop feeding the birds (though I don't feed them in the summer). It was upsetting, but I guess it is the nature of... nature ??
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 10, 2014 1:54:26 GMT
In some areas it's actually against the law to stop feeding birds once cold weather hits. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it's another thing to keep in mind when making your decision. Where?
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Post by Zee on Nov 10, 2014 1:56:56 GMT
Hawks are birds and they need to eat too...
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 10, 2014 2:43:17 GMT
In some areas it's actually against the law to stop feeding birds once cold weather hits. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it's another thing to keep in mind when making your decision. Where? You know, I have no idea. It's just something my mother told me. I have no idea if she's correct or not, but I assume she is.
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Post by Zee on Nov 10, 2014 3:21:52 GMT
You know, I have no idea. It's just something my mother told me. I have no idea if she's correct or not, but I assume she is. How would that be enforced, since bird feeding isn't mandatory? Sorry but I think your mom is wrong on that one.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Nov 10, 2014 4:06:35 GMT
We are metres away from a nature reserve and I always shed a little tear when a raptor takes a bird from my feeding area. Same thing when a kingfisher hits the koi hatchlings. Sad, but part of nature. The neighbour's cat doing the same thing, however, makes me want to do a little hunting of my own.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 10, 2014 4:21:39 GMT
You know, I have no idea. It's just something my mother told me. I have no idea if she's correct or not, but I assume she is. How would that be enforced, since bird feeding isn't mandatory? Sorry but I think your mom is wrong on that one. Birds are migratory. They leave for many reasons including for food. If they have a stable food supply all summer and fall, then it stops suddenly in winter, then birds depending on that food source die. You think there's no way a law exists to protect birds is freezing climates? Because I think it's very possible. Feeding feral cats isn't mandatory, but there are laws that state that after X days of feeding you become their owner. If that cat depends on you for food and you stop, that's considered cruelty to animals. I know the bird thing sounds crazy, but it makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 11:55:13 GMT
We had to take down our feeders as they were attracting bears. Wow, now that's scary! 
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 10, 2014 13:01:22 GMT
I wouldn't stop feeding the birds because of the circle of life. Hawks have to eat too, you know.
And to be honest? Birds of prey are fascinating. So while it would be disturbing to see that happen, I'd also be fascinated that a bird of prey swooped down right in front of me,
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 10, 2014 13:54:42 GMT
I hang fat balls up in winter, but never scatter birdfood on the ground as it attracts vermin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 15:22:49 GMT
Erm...no it really doesn't. How would that law even work? How would it be enforced? Who would know if someone had fed the birds and then stopped?
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 10, 2014 15:25:18 GMT
How would that be enforced, since bird feeding isn't mandatory? Sorry but I think your mom is wrong on that one. Birds are migratory. They leave for many reasons including for food. If they have a stable food supply all summer and fall, then it stops suddenly in winter, then birds depending on that food source die. You think there's no way a law exists to protect birds is freezing climates? Because I think it's very possible. No, I don't think any law exists that you have to keep buying seed for wild animals. But it is funny to imagine something like being enforced.
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Post by chimom on Nov 10, 2014 17:26:21 GMT
This is an excellent link! Thanks!
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 10, 2014 18:01:35 GMT
Erm...no it really doesn't. How would that law even work? How would it be enforced? Who would know if someone had fed the birds and then stopped? Birdforce, obviously. Door to door questioning by the Birdforce. Mostly retirees, but all people who care about nature and the LAW.
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Post by blueeyedpups on Nov 10, 2014 21:33:51 GMT
We had to take down our feeders as they were attracting bears. Yep, same with us!
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