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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 20:39:57 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Jan 15, 2021 20:49:14 GMT
No surprise there. And we always knew there was around 30% who would support him through thick and thin, right?
I just don’t understand how that many Americans can be so foolish and gullible (at best) or else hateful and violent.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 15, 2021 21:00:33 GMT
No surprise there. And we always knew there was around 30% who would support him through thick and thin, right? I just don’t understand how that many Americans can be so foolish and gullible (at best) or else hateful and violent. They are losing their grip that they only think they had! Panic!
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jan 15, 2021 21:00:57 GMT
Who are the 4% of Democrats who approve of the job he is doing?
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 15, 2021 21:03:56 GMT
I think the problem is that Trump supporters are living an alternate reality. The believe his lies, Republicans refuse to call Trump out on his lies and other Republicans objecting to the electoral college give all of it legitimacy. Their beliefs are only reinforced on Fox, or worse, OAN or NewsMax. And what they see on social media supports their reality, too. They truly believe they were being patriotic, taking back an election that was stolen from them. I have no idea how Biden can unite the country when 30% are living in an alternate reality.
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Post by aj2hall on Jan 15, 2021 21:05:31 GMT
Who are the 4% of Democrats who approve of the job he is doing? Right, or the 11% in 2017? If you approved of Trump even then, I don’t see how you could call yourself a Democrat.
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Post by elaine on Jan 15, 2021 21:09:04 GMT
My hope is behind the fact that his approval has sharply dropped with Republicans. Psychologically, that is pretty good.
It is extremely hard to get people to shift their opinions when they have been approving of action after action after action for 5 years now (counting campaigning throughout all of 2016).
It is called the foot-in-the-door technique and how people like Jim Jones groom followers to take that step to approve of and literally drink the cyanide-laced Kool-aid. The more actions that his followers approved of over the years, the harder psychologically it is for them to do an about-face and disapprove.
Psychologically, it is easy for those of us who have been disgusted for years to add this to our list of grievances. For Republicans, many who supported him earlier, it is much harder to shift to anger and disgust.
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Post by Really Red on Jan 15, 2021 21:12:35 GMT
Who are the 4% of Democrats who approve of the job he is doing? I thought the same thing! They are the Manchins of this world. Not sure why they have a D after their name.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 15, 2021 21:13:37 GMT
Who are the 4% of Democrats who approve of the job he is doing? Right, or the 11% in 2017? If you approved of Trump even then, I don’t see how you could call yourself a Democrat. Just as there are Never Trumper Republicans, there will always be a few Trump-supporting Democrats. I know working-class Democrats who have always been Democrats, because labor, who nevertheless have always been otherwise kind of conservative-leaning. And I bet there are pockets of old-time Southern Democrats who never officially left the party when everyone else switched to Republican.
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Post by mom2jnk on Jan 15, 2021 22:46:58 GMT
I think the problem is that Trump supporters are living an alternate reality. The believe his lies, Republicans refuse to call Trump out on his lies and other Republicans objecting to the electoral college give all of it legitimacy. Their beliefs are only reinforced on Fox, or worse, OAN or NewsMax. And what they see on social media supports their reality, too. They truly believe they were being patriotic, taking back an election that was stolen from them. I have no idea how Biden can unite the country when 30% are living in an alternate reality. And this is what scares the crap out of me! How do you convince someone that their "reality" is just the biggest con job ever? I am so fearful for our future and for the next five days especially.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 23:53:25 GMT
How do you convince someone that their "reality" is just the biggest con job ever? I am so fearful for our future and for the next five days especially. You can't. They have lived with cognitive dissonance so long, they will/would take a great deal of deprogramming to recognize logic again. An effective thing society can do is cut off the funding for the groups who do the brainwashing and keep it alive.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 16, 2021 0:16:35 GMT
I think the problem is that Trump supporters are living an alternate reality. The believe his lies, Republicans refuse to call Trump out on his lies and other Republicans objecting to the electoral college give all of it legitimacy. Their beliefs are only reinforced on Fox, or worse, OAN or NewsMax. And what they see on social media supports their reality, too. They truly believe they were being patriotic, taking back an election that was stolen from them. I have no idea how Biden can unite the country when 30% are living in an alternate reality. I have to think this is the case. Friends that are really not watching the news and really believe that he didn’t lose because no way Biden could have received more votes than Obama. People that really are living in a vacuum and only hear the little bits they care to hear and think that socialism is coming now. Don’t believe that it was Trump followers but Antifa or BLM that stormed the capital. There are a lot of people that fit this description and think that overall his policies have been good for the economy and if not for Covid it would be great right now. I don’t get it but I have seen this many times on FB. You can’t argue with them as they just can’t hear what you are saying because everything that doesn’t line up with what they think are lies of course.
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Post by schizo319 on Jan 16, 2021 1:34:00 GMT
Who are the 4% of Democrats who approve of the job he is doing? Anarchists (yeah, we have them on both sides, just in seemingly disproportionate levels as of late).
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