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Post by moveablefeast on Nov 12, 2014 21:43:59 GMT
I think the helpful things that were said to me were...
I know he was really special to you
I am heartbroken for you
I loved him too
Be kind to yourself
You are not alone
I had a friend who said to me, during one season of sadness, "He is in good hands." Not everyone could have said that and pulled it off. I knew exactly what she meant - that I would have rather he was with me but that I could trust that he was in the care of Jesus. Said too casually it would have been flip, but said by someone obviously grieving for you, it was on pitch.
And maybe that is the key to saying things right - when it is not just words but is something that perceptibly comes from the compassionate place inside you.
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Post by ptamom on Nov 12, 2014 21:46:50 GMT
My mom died when I was nine.
Her aunt and cousin came for the funeral, then raided her closet.
As they were leaving, her aunt said to me, "First you cry, then you forget."
WTF lady? What kind of thing is that to say to a little girl whose world had just crashed down? I had only met her once before that. And I have never seen her since.
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Post by mshershey on Nov 12, 2014 21:49:26 GMT
My mom has a knack for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Heart in the right place, foot right in mouth. Seriously - it's a gift. Not. It's SO bad. Anyway, when I was 15, a 17 year old friend of our family was killed in a motorcycle accident. It was just tragic and awful. And my mom - given her "gift", said to the mom: "Maybe God took him young to protect him from something awful that might have happened later on." And the mom said: "I appreciate you're trying to make me feel better, but what thing could happen that was worse than this!?!!?!?" I mean, really. Right? SUCH a bad thing to say. Peabay, I totally understand what you are saying here but I have thought the same thing about my mother. However, I would never say this to someone who has lost a loved one. In 2006 my mother suffered acute kidney failure. Her blood work was so bad that the doctors did not give us any hope. We prayed. God answered and spared her at that time. Then a few years down the road she suffered the awful, tragic effects of Alzheimer's. That situation taught me a lesson. I mean I'm so thankful we got to have my mother a couple of more years but........
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Post by mshershey on Nov 12, 2014 21:51:48 GMT
Another unhelpful thing to say, at least to me was:
You can always look around and see someone else going through something worse than you.
That maybe true but it did not help. I'm still pissed about that statement.
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Post by M in Carolina on Nov 12, 2014 21:57:57 GMT
Just acknowledging someone's loss.
When my dad died, my mom wasn't allowed into the ICU or the funeral because they had been divorced for over 10 years and mom and my stepmom didn't get along at all. (Dh and I wanted to do a small vow renewal at our 10 year anniversary because of all the bad stuff we'd been through and wethered--the two of them couldn't be civil enough to be in the same room so we could have a party.) My mom was really bitter--I understand that she grieved just as much, but nobody thought she should be at the funeral, and my mom does not do hospitals. My dad's fatal stroke caused severe muscle spasms while he was on the ventilator, and he was covered in tubes, etc. My mom would have freaked.
So my mom's sister, my aunt, never acknowledged my dad's death. I saw her several times, but she acted like nothing had happened. That really hurt.
I got a lot of judgment because everyone thought I was taken my dad's death too hard. I had just started having more symptoms of MS that were causing more depression/crying when I felt like laughing/etc. So everything together caused the perfect storm.
During that time, I appreciated those who just talked about my dad--even when I would cry--sometimes I would do the ugly cry and not feel that sad--my damaged brain was overreacting, and it was embarrassing. I so appreciate those who didn't make a big deal about it and was just there for me. That first Father's day was also my inlaw's 50th wedding anniversary, and I was having a hard time. A friend of my MIL's who had lost their first child in an auto accident just sat beside me, put her arm around me, and reminded me that grief didn't have a timeline, and that there was no shame in grief.
Jesus wept when he arrived at Lazarus' house and saw all his friends crying. Jesus was about to raise Lazarus from the dead. Jesus knew that there would be rejoicing in less than 10 minutes, but he still cried with them. He felt their grief instead of rebuking them. Someone reminded me of that passage, and I think it says all that needs to be said for Christians that see others in grief. Yes, we'll see our loved ones in heaven. The time that we'll see them is soon, but it's still ok to grieve and miss them.
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Post by caro on Nov 12, 2014 22:24:41 GMT
I've lost two very significant loved ones in my life. My first DH committed suicide and I was 5 months pregnant. It was shocking to all our friends as it was for me. A "friend" asked me "why he did it. Everyone wanted to know." I was in shock.
My DD passed away at age 14, she was special needs and my first DH's biological DD. My DH now adopted her and my other DD right after we married.
One of THE most helpful things a friend said to me a few weeks after DD died. She called me and asked how I was. Of course I said fine. And she said, "no I really am asking how you are, I care." I think I talked to an hour pouring out my feelings and she LISTENED!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 22:28:33 GMT
Yes, my dad's death was sudden. A family friend looked directly in my mom's eyes and said "Can we just say dammit!".
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Post by sharlag on Nov 12, 2014 22:34:17 GMT
I've lost two very significant loved ones in my life. My first DH committed suicide and I was 5 months pregnant. It was shocking to all our friends as it was for me. A "friend" asked me "why he did it. Everyone wanted to know." I was in shock. My DD passed away at age 14, she was special needs and my first DH's biological DD. My DH now adopted her and my other DD right after we married. One of THE most helpful things a friend said to me a few weeks after DD died. She called me and asked how I was. Of course I said fine. And she said, "no I really am asking how you are, I care." I think I talked to an hour pouring out my feelings and she LISTENED!! My brother committed suicide. People REALLY don't know what to say to that type of death. I'm sorry you experienced that!
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Post by alissa103 on Nov 12, 2014 22:38:45 GMT
Yes, my dad passed away unexpectedly at 51. A friend who lost both parents young told me she was so sorry I was a member of this awful "club" (losing a parent young). Just realizing she understood what I was going through, when none of my other friends really "got it" (although sympathetic), was very comforting. I've since unfortunately had to say the same thing to two friends lately who have lost a parent. Alissa, that reminds me of my favorite quote from Grey's Anatomy, that Cristina said to George when his Dad died: Oh my gosh, that's freaky. Maybe the "club" idea is more common than I thought! Wow. But yeah, what Cristina said is basically the gist of what my friend said, but not so Christina-like 
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 12, 2014 22:57:42 GMT
Everyone who was sincere was helpful in some way.
My husband was not a perfect man. He was the kinda guy who made the moon and then hung it just a tiny bit askew. Once in a while it even fell, only to be patched with duck tape and then put back up there again.
People who knew him understood that. He was special. He was talented and witty and always helping others.... and he was forever getting people to fall for the most ridiculous things only to see him flash that mischievous grin and twinkle in his eye and have them rolling in laughter for having yet again fallen to his wit.
There were a lot of stories told and a lot of laughter shared. What can be more helpful than that?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 12, 2014 22:59:05 GMT
Yes, my dad's death was sudden. A family friend looked directly in my mom's eyes and said "Can we just say dammit!". I swear the vast majority of things were just a blurr - I couldn't tell you who said anything. One of the very few things I remember, was a dear friend who came up to me and said and I quote "this just f&*&#g sucks" As she is not at all someone who uses profanity, and you're surrounded by a bunch of very polite platitudes and religious reference. It was one of those shockingly perfect things to say. The cry/laugh/hug was exactly what I needed.
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Post by sues on Nov 12, 2014 23:58:03 GMT
I can't remember anyone saying anything really bad- except one woman a couple of weeks later...after finding out my mom died 5 weeks after my dad said (with a WTF? tone of voice) "So what- she couldn't live without him?" Ummm- they were divorced, nimrod. I think she got used to living without him. Mostly it was a mass of "Sorry about your loss/mom/dad." Two guy neighbors standing around gossiping, yelled it across the lawn one day when I was coming out of the garage. It was such a guy thing to do, it made me laugh. I really appreciated when people made me laugh. That was such a shitty summer. On the flip side- at my mom's memorial service I said something so dumb, I still can't believe it. A woman I have known for years, mother of an ex longtime boyfriend of mine, mother of my SIL's best friend - we've known her forever. She lives kind of far away now and made the drive in for both of my parent's services. It was really nice of her to do, and we appreciated her being there. So what did I say? "Thanks for coming. I think we have now run out reasons to drag you back to the old neighborhood."  I wish I was kidding. I don't know what came over me or who took over my brain.
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Post by ellen on Nov 13, 2014 0:00:05 GMT
My mom died unexpectedly in May. I appreciated anyone who just acknowledged my loss and told me they were sorry. i appreciated when someone who had experienced a big loss said to me, "It isn't always going to feel like this." I kept telling myself that when I was in a pretty dark place. You can't go wrong just saying you're sorry. No one said anything stupid to me. I'm still surprised at some of the people who never said a word to me. People who I see often and thought were actually friends. They knew and said nothing. That hurt and is hard to forget. don't tell someone that they should call you if you need something. Grievers don't know what they need and they won't call you. If you want to do something to help, just do something.
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Post by scrappington on Nov 13, 2014 0:08:53 GMT
When my dh died unexpectedly when I was 31 and 4 days before Christmas after his funeral one of his friends told me "its OK to be sad"
I know that seems OK to be sad but i really needed to hear it was OK. I was trying to be strong for everyone.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Nov 13, 2014 0:15:45 GMT
I can't remember anyone saying anything really bad- except one woman a couple of weeks later...after finding out my mom died 5 weeks after my dad said (with a WTF? tone of voice) "So what- she couldn't live without him?" Ummm- they were divorced, nimrod. I think she got used to living without him. Mostly it was a mass of "Sorry about your loss/mom/dad." Two guy neighbors standing around gossiping, yelled it across the lawn one day when I was coming out of the garage. It was such a guy thing to do, it made me laugh. I really appreciated when people made me laugh. That was such a shitty summer. On the flip side- at my mom's memorial service I said something so dumb, I still can't believe it. A woman I have known for years, mother of an ex longtime boyfriend of mine, mother of my SIL's best friend - we've known her forever. She lives kind of far away now and made the drive in for both of my parent's services. It was really nice of her to do, and we appreciated her being there. So what did I say "Thanks for coming. I think we have now run out reasons to drag you back to the old neighborhood."  I wish I was kidding. I don't know what came over me or who took over my brain. Sues, I know you were probably mortified that you said it but in retrospect don't you get a chuckle out of it?
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Nov 13, 2014 1:58:55 GMT
I was very close to my grandma. When she died, my uncle acknowledged the special bond I had with her. He said that we were kindred spirits. I was really touched by that statement. It still brings a tear to my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 2:05:02 GMT
I guess I just liked hearing I'm sorry for your loss and a little anecdote about how my parent had affected their lives. For example, someone told me my mom always accepted him, even when others didn't. That was nice to know and gave me a different perspective on her.
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Post by brandy327 on Nov 13, 2014 2:15:13 GMT
My friend lost her three precious little girls in a plane crash. She told me later, how she appreciated so much how I would ask her for advice, as my girls grew. A lot of people acted like she'd never been the mother of little girls. (She was left with only boys) I also sent her pictures of the girls, with mine, that she'd never seen. My girls ages are right in the middle of her three. She loved it. Since then I often send photos to people of thei loved one, that maybe they've never seen. It's an unexpected gift, I've been told. When my little eight month old cousin Rylee died, I took photos at her burial for her parents and grandparents. Nobody else took any, and they were given to just her parents. It was at least something I could offer, something they would want to look at, eventually. I've learned everyone needs something a little different. All we can do is watch carefully for an opportunity to be there for them. My close friend lost her husband to a drunk driver. The first few days I fed her with a spoon, a few times, just to make her eat. Later it was helping sort pictures. Then I went to hearings to put the murderer behind bars. A year later I took her on a cruise to get her away from town. She says she likes it when out of the blue I just say "tell me a Frank story" so she can talk about him. I remember his birthday, make it a point to do lunch or just call. A good thing to remember is that just because some time passes, they don't stop hurting and needing. So reach out even over time. One, five, ten, even more years. I gave a book to my aunt recently, who lost her four year old son in a fire forty years ago. I gave her the book Heaven Is For Real, and told her I loved her and was sorry she lost Stevie. She cried a lot. And said she was so touched by the book. I don't have anything new to add to the OP but I just want to say that I strive to be the kind of friend/relative that you are, my friend. You're so thoughtful and caring. 
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Post by I-95 on Nov 13, 2014 2:43:19 GMT
What a lovely thing to hear!
When my brother passed away his best friend since childhood walked up to me, hugged me, and said 'This just sucks, doesn't it?' That summed it up really well for me.
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Post by CarolT on Nov 13, 2014 2:55:24 GMT
My dad died unexpectedly almost 2 years ago. Two of my cousins (sisters) are Presbyterian ministers - and they are awesome. One of them posted on facebook about her favorite memories of my dad and what a special person he was... her sister did the same thing, and then for weeks people were posting their memories of him. It wasn't the vague sort of "he was a great man" thing, it was things like "I remember when I was in college and my roommates and I came to Florida..."
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 13, 2014 3:40:29 GMT
"Our God is a powerful God." And you know-- that could have been a disastrous thing to say. Why didn't God's power save my brother and the pain in my family? It could have really been received in a lot of ways. She didn't know my beliefs. She might have assumed, but we never discussed religion. Anyway, maybe because I knew her, and knew the conviction of her faith... it stuck with me and yes, it was helpful. I have to be honest, if someone said that to me it would be most decidedly UNHELPFUL. I wouldn't say anything to that person, because I realise that they would have the best intentions, but it would seriously piss me off. I have another one to add to the list of unhelpful: When my 16yo sister died, my (very religious) maternal grandmother said to my dad "Oh well Bill, there are worse things that happen at sea." 
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Nov 13, 2014 4:44:15 GMT
My friend lost her three precious little girls in a plane crash. She told me later, how she appreciated so much how I would ask her for advice, as my girls grew. A lot of people acted like she'd never been the mother of little girls. (She was left with only boys) I also sent her pictures of the girls, with mine, that she'd never seen. My girls ages are right in the middle of her three. She loved it. Since then I often send photos to people of thei loved one, that maybe they've never seen. It's an unexpected gift, I've been told. When my little eight month old cousin Rylee died, I took photos at her burial for her parents and grandparents. Nobody else took any, and they were given to just her parents. It was at least something I could offer, something they would want to look at, eventually. I've learned everyone needs something a little different. All we can do is watch carefully for an opportunity to be there for them. My close friend lost her husband to a drunk driver. The first few days I fed her with a spoon, a few times, just to make her eat. Later it was helping sort pictures. Then I went to hearings to put the murderer behind bars. A year later I took her on a cruise to get her away from town. She says she likes it when out of the blue I just say "tell me a Frank story" so she can talk about him. I remember his birthday, make it a point to do lunch or just call. A good thing to remember is that just because some time passes, they don't stop hurting and needing. So reach out even over time. One, five, ten, even more years. I gave a book to my aunt recently, who lost her four year old son in a fire forty years ago. I gave her the book Heaven Is For Real, and told her I loved her and was sorry she lost Stevie. She cried a lot. And said she was so touched by the book. You are right, the pictures are a gift! I found one of my aunt's partner after she passed from breast cancer. We had gone to the Grand Canyon, and there was snow on the ground. I remember how beautiful it was that day, and how vibrant and alive she looked. My aunt really treasured the picture and placed it on her memory card. It made me happy to see that I was able to bring some comfort to her. When my grandmother died, (I was really struggling with her death) my dad reminded me that she would always be in my heart. Yes I know it sounds like a cliche, but it made me feel better and still does. It reminds me that my memories of her will always be with me.
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Post by rainangel on Nov 13, 2014 7:18:04 GMT
My grandfather died when I was 16. I wasn't particularly close to him, but it was upsetting of course. It was also the first funeral I attended. After the funeral, after putting him in the ground, everyone walked away from the grave towards the parking lot, I see this old man standing by the open grave silently crying. I had never spoken to this man in my life, but recognized him as the man who was married to my grandfather's sister. He had probably known my grandfather for 50+ years, they lived about half a mile from each other. I felt so bad for this man standing there, and everyone was just walking to the parkinglot. I knew he had lost his wife, and I remember thinking that my grandfather was probably one of the few people he had left that was 'his age'. I went over to him almost on instinct and took his hand, and when I did this man just grabbed a hold of me and truly started crying his heart out. We stood like that for probably five minutes, and then we held hands as we walked to the parkinglot. We got in different cars, and I've never seen him again. We never even exchanged a single word, he just needed someone to hold him Breaks my heart thinking about it really. But I feel almost proud that I could be there for him for those few minutes. I hope someone is there for me some day.
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Post by MerryMom on Nov 13, 2014 17:46:49 GMT
I had to think about this for a day before I posted. I don't think there is anything that someone can say that was "helpful" and definitely nothing to say that most people would interpret as helpful. Grief and loss is such a personal experience.
I lost my first husband when I was in my mid-20's having only been married a short time. It was an unexpected death. I've posted about it on the previous board before (the watch incident and my "first set of in-laws"--I can never think of them as "former in-laws").
Anyways, I don't think there is a set thing to say that all people will find comfort. It's such a personal interpretation as to what resonates with a person at a very difficult time. It also depends on the age of the person who died and the circumstances of their death. Sharing anecdotes or a funny story about an older person or a parent might be okay, but if a child or young adult dies suddenly or following a long illness, the anecdotes at the time of the funeral or calling hours at the funeral may not be warranted.
In reading these posts, there are statements listed that others found a lot of comfort, that I personally, would not have found comfort. For me, quoting Bible scripture is not helpful. Passages in the Bible that are comforting or helpful are a very personal preference. I don't know how someone can anticipate that unless you know the person very well.
I think you have to take your lead from the person, if the tone of the funeral is sharing an anecdote or funny story, then sharing something might be warranted.
What I appreciated and remember to this day are the people who looked me in the eye and said a sincere and heartfelt "I am so very sorry" and then stopped talking. As time passed, I was more open to hearing stories or anecdotes about him as these were parts of his life (as a child, or at work) that I did not know. I did appreciate reading some of the stories that people included with the card or sent later in a letter. That way, I could read them when I was ready.
I also remember some people who said things that made me wince inside, but honestly, that sting wore off through time. I just chalked it up to someone not knowing what to say and they were trying to "say something helpful".
I well remember and am grateful for those that called me or sent me a letter weeks and months later to say "I'm thinking about you". There is such a flurry of people and things to do and decisions to make between the death and the funeral, and then....silence. Nothing going on. THAT is when I really needed people. Sure, I knew I could call someone and say "I want to talk", but that is harder to do than if someone called me and took me out to lunch and asked "What can I do?" and then I could respond.
I also appreciated the people who sent me a card or called me on my first husband's birthday, my birthday, our anniversary or that first Christmas. Those are the moments that brought me to tears knowing that someone cared enough to write down those dates and let me know they cared AND THAT THEY NOTICED. That's the worst part following a death, seeing how life still goes on for all these other people. I never begrudged anyone else's happiness, but I did feel the pang of the loss most keenly during those times.
But what I do remember are those that said absolutely nothing to me and acted as if nothing had happened. It took me a long time to get over the sting of that and realize that those people just didn't know what to say or do, and therefore, said nothing.
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Post by whopea on Nov 13, 2014 19:27:02 GMT
I think the best thing that was said to me was from a colleague at work that I didn't really like much. To my surprise, he knew my dad when he was in his 20's. He made time to come to the funeral home and told me that my dad was the most considerate man he had ever known. Out of the hundreds of people that mourned with us at the time, that's the one I remember. Not so much for what he said, but that he made an effort to attend despite the sometime strained working relationship we had.
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Post by jenjie on Nov 14, 2014 13:44:24 GMT
In reading these posts, there are statements listed that others found a lot of comfort, that I personally, would not have found comfort. For me, quoting Bible scripture is not helpful. Passages in the Bible that are comforting or helpful are a very personal preference. I don't know how someone can anticipate that unless you know the person very well. If this was related to my post, i understand and agree. The scripture I shared, I wouldn't do with just anyone. I even mentioned in my post that I know it's not for everyone. It was to meet a very specific need for a particular person, and only after praying about it. I've only "used" that with one other person, who also felt tormented by their feelings of loss. I remember at her mom's funeral, her Dh told me "I just don't want her to be sad." I told him, "let her be sad!" She needed to be free to express whatever emotions she was feeling. A few months later this same woman poured her heart out to me. So I shared the same scriptures and sentiment with her. And it helped her. That's all. 
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Post by MerryMom on Nov 14, 2014 13:50:20 GMT
In reading these posts, there are statements listed that others found a lot of comfort, that I personally, would not have found comfort. For me, quoting Bible scripture is not helpful. Passages in the Bible that are comforting or helpful are a very personal preference. I don't know how someone can anticipate that unless you know the person very well. If this was related to my post, i understand and agree. The scripture I shared, I wouldn't do with just anyone. I even mentioned in my post that I know it's not for everyone. It was to meet a very specific need for a particular person, and only after praying about it. I've only "used" that with one other person, who also felt tormented by their feelings of loss. I remember at her mom's funeral, her Dh told me "I just don't want her to be sad." I told him, "let her be sad!" She needed to be free to express whatever emotions she was feeling. A few months later this same woman poured her heart out to me. So I shared the same scriptures and sentiment with her. And it helped her. That's all.  That sentence I wrote was not directed at you specifically, I merely used that as an example of what one person may find comfort in the statement, others may not. There were other things that people posted that were not Bible related, that I would not have found "helpful". I could have used other examples. My point was, that grief and loss is such a personal experience that what some may find comfort in hearing, others may not. I apologize if you were offended by what I shared, my experience. Which is what the post was about.
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Post by jenjie on Nov 14, 2014 13:57:18 GMT
MerryMom I was not offended at all. I understand what you're saying. I was concerned that you might be upset by what I said and I didn't want to add to your pain. I'm sure I've said a lot of stupid things to people in their grief but this experience with my new friend taught me to listen more and talk less.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 14, 2014 15:39:13 GMT
I already posted about the one memorable comment, but I did want to add - just say something! "I'm sorry for your loss" may seem meaningless. But I know for me, I was most hurt by the people who said nothing. Supposed friends and family members who couldn't manage a simple - I'm so sorry. It hurt, a lot.
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Post by Fairlyoddparent on Nov 14, 2014 16:14:43 GMT
When my mom passed away I was surprised at how hard it was for me to handle. For several weeks I struggled just to keep going. I felt so bad about myself and wondered why I couldn't get it together. One day an acquaintance, a mom from a classmate of my ds, came up to me and shared with me how hard it was for her when her mom passed away. She told me how it took her nearly a year to begin to feel somewhat normal and at times she thought she was losing it.
This meant the world to me. To know that I wasn't losing my mind and that someone else struggled with the same feelings was so helpful to me. Since then I have tried to pass this onto others when they lose a parent.
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