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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 17:01:52 GMT
So...I was offered the position that I applied/interviewed for last week. I was so excited when they called and gave me the good news.
Because I do like the CEO at my current job, I felt I needed to share with him why I was resigning before turning in my official letter to my boss (the CFO). I wish I would of had this conversation with him earlier as it went really well and he was very open to hear my concerns and complaints.
After an hour and 15 minute meeting he has asked me not to turn in my resignation until Monday as he really wants me to stay. So much...he is talking to the board about creating a new position for me that wouldn't involve me working under the CFO but rather I would be his peer. There is a huge need for my skill set here and he sees it and wants me to stay. Right now I am the accountant/HR coordinator - he has offered me the position of Director of HR pending board approval (which shouldn't be difficult since it's been budgeted for since 2012)
I know there will be issues with me and the CFO, but since he wouldn't be my boss any longer I think I can work with him. Not sure how he will feel about it and that is a concern to me. I did express it to the CEO and he said we would work through all that together.
I told him I would be interested in the position and agreed to wait until Monday. I have accepted the other position so now is it horrible of me to wait and see what my current company is going to do for me? |
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Post by krc11 on Nov 13, 2014 17:12:13 GMT
It's Thursday, so we are talking two business days. Things happen. I'd wait to Monday and if you decide to take the promotion, thank the new firm but tell them your current employer made you an offer you couldn't refuse. It happens. You need to do what's best for you. With the relationship you described, I would so take the promotion and stay where I had that kind of relationship with the CEO than go into the "unknown" of a new company.
Good luck and congratulations!
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Nov 13, 2014 17:16:13 GMT
Yeah, what she ^^^ said
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Post by farmdpea on Nov 13, 2014 17:18:41 GMT
It's Thursday, so we are talking two business days. Things happen. I'd wait to Monday and if you decide to take the promotion, thank the new firm but tell them your current employer made you an offer you couldn't refuse. It happens. You need to do what's best for you. With the relationship you described, I would so take the promotion and stay where I had that kind of relationship with the CEO than go into the "unknown" of a new company. Good luck and congratulations! This is the course that I took, and I am pleased that I took it. Pray about it, discuss it with your DH, then be at peace with your decision. |
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Post by caribbeangirl on Nov 13, 2014 17:22:28 GMT
It's Thursday, so we are talking two business days. Things happen. I'd wait to Monday and if you decide to take the promotion, thank the new firm but tell them your current employer made you an offer you couldn't refuse. It happens. You need to do what's best for you. With the relationship you described, I would so take the promotion and stay where I had that kind of relationship with the CEO than go into the "unknown" of a new company. Good luck and congratulations! I agree!! Pray about it and then make your decision. Good luck and congratulations!! |
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Post by cmhs on Nov 13, 2014 17:29:50 GMT
Well, congrats either way! I know it's a tough decision but what a great problem to have! Good luck.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Nov 13, 2014 17:33:54 GMT
Congratulations! Either way, I think things will work out in your best interest. Doesn't seem to be a bad option.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:02:58 GMT
To be be brutally honest. You have already left the company. You made that decision when you interviewed for another job.
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Post by zztop11 on Nov 13, 2014 18:11:14 GMT
To be be brutally honest. You have already left the company. You made that decision when you interviewed for another job. No she hasn't left the company. Just because someone goes for an interview with another company does not mean that they have left their present company. My feeling is that you must do what is in your best interest. Sometimes that means accepting a job and then in the near future telling them that you will not take that job. When I was a teacher, I was laid off two times. With one of those times, I was pregnant. My husband and I were in the unemployment line together. I learned that if you don't do what is in your best interest, "it" won't happen. Companies are ALWAYS looking out for their best interest. Consider yourself a company and do what you need to. |
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Post by kimmie75 on Nov 13, 2014 18:14:15 GMT
You have done exactly the right thing. These sorts of things are done all the time and 2 business days is reasonable. Good luck! It is always nice to know where you are appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:14:18 GMT
To be be brutally honest. You have already left the company. You made that decision when you interviewed for another job. I don't think I have already left the company. Just because I am unhappy in a current situation and look for something better doesn't mean I'm still not a good and loyal employee.
I would prefer to stay where I am at...just not with a CFO has my immediate boss.
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Post by wandawoman on Nov 13, 2014 18:15:44 GMT
What a great position you are in - two great offers!
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Post by calgal08 on Nov 13, 2014 18:18:00 GMT
To be be brutally honest. You have already left the company. You made that decision when you interviewed for another job. I agree with this. Once I'd mentally checked out of my last position no amount of begging and even tears from my last boss (he's the CEO of the company and was prepared to make a lot of changes to make me stay) would have kept me. More money - sure that was something to think about. Part-time flexible hours - sounds interesting. But, I had to also consider how miserable I was. Just a thought, as HR Director, chances are you'll have to work closely with the CFO.
Either way, you're in an awesome position - congratulations!
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Post by whopea on Nov 13, 2014 18:24:59 GMT
What an enviable position! I would be cautious about staying on with your current employer. Sometimes the devil we know is better than the one we don't, but the CEO can promise you anything he wants and it may not change. Your potential new employer might not be forgiving if you decide to stay on and it may burn a bridge for the future. Good luck making the decision that's right for you and your family.
I totally understand what megmc is saying. You've already made the determination that seeking employment elsewhere is what you wanted. You've already mentally checked out, especially since you already accepted the other position. It's good to have our ego stroked, but remember that the CEO probably knew what the CFO was really all about. He only cares about it now because he's put in the position of having to.
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Post by sharlag on Nov 13, 2014 18:35:20 GMT
remember that the CEO probably knew what the CFO was really all about. He only cares about it now because he's put in the position of having to. This is a good point. What do you think about it, needmysanity? EDITED to add: Congratulations, HOTSHOT! |
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Post by jemali on Nov 13, 2014 18:48:53 GMT
I think it is time to move on to the new company. How much of your actual job would change except for not reporting to the icky guy? Is it more than just a title change? If this guy is condescending, rude, arrogant and vindictive as you said in one of your previous posts, do you really still want to work with him, even if you are technically a peer and not reporting to him? You sounded so very excited to get the new job, you liked what they do and work with domestic violence and homelessness, I think you should take a chance and take the offer.
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Post by Jili on Nov 13, 2014 18:53:55 GMT
That's great news---and a tough decision. I'm honestly not sure what you should do, as I can see pros and cons of both sides. I think I'm leaning toward staying with your current company, but have some reservations about that, too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:55:30 GMT
Personally, if the new job had the salary and benefits I wanted, I'd take it instead of staying at the old company. You already know what the CFO is like, so you're really just subjecting yourself to more of the same. He's not going to change because you change positions in the company. You will still have to tolerate him, even if it's in a different capacity.
A fresh start is what I'd go with, but I wish you luck in whatever you decide.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 13, 2014 19:03:11 GMT
What an enviable position! I would be cautious about staying on with your current employer. Sometimes the devil we know is better than the one we don't, but the CEO can promise you anything he wants and it may not change. Your potential new employer might not be forgiving if you decide to stay on and it may burn a bridge for the future. Good luck making the decision that's right for you and your family. I totally understand what megmc is saying. You've already made the determination that seeking employment elsewhere is what you wanted. You've already mentally checked out, especially since you already accepted the other position. It's good to have our ego stroked, but remember that the CEO probably knew what the CFO was really all about. He only cares about it now because he's put in the position of having to.IIRC, you were really excited about the new job being exactly what you wanted, so I'd be leaning to making a clean break and leave your current employer. Be flattered and take it as a true compliment that your CEO is working hard to keep you, but even if you don't report to the CFO any more, he still has the ability to make your workplace miserable. I would not wait until Monday to make the decision either, as I think you are implying you will stay if the board creates the new position. Take tonight to think about it, write out the pros & cons, and be honest about the worst case scenario work environment if you stay. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:05:06 GMT
Personally, if the new job had the salary and benefits I wanted, I'd take it instead of staying at the old company. You already know what the CFO is like, so you're really just subjecting yourself to more of the same. He's not going to change because you change positions in the company. You will still have to tolerate him, even if it's in a different capacity. A fresh start is what I'd go with, but I wish you luck in whatever you decide.  |
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Post by bethany102399 on Nov 13, 2014 19:10:33 GMT
I would agree with the others. it's an enviable position to be in. I would honestly ask yourself.
1. How much did the CEO know about the situation BEFORE you came to him? He's re-acting not acting to solve the problem. This speaks volumes to me.
2. How friendly would the CFO be to you if you were to become a peer? If you're having this much of an issue now as a subordinate, I would proceed with caution as an equal.
3. The position has been budgeted since 2012 but has yet to be filled? That's a red flag to me. Only you know why this is, and I don't expect you to share it here but I take it into consideration when thinking about this.
Congratulations and keep us updated.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 13, 2014 19:24:51 GMT
I would take the job at the new place. I agree that nobody was concerned about your boss' behavior before you were ready to resign. he(?) can still make your work life miserable as a peer. plus, you were really excited about the new job. sometimes you need to push thru the fear of the unknown and do it. I would hate too see you regret staying in 6 months.
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Post by Crazyhare on Nov 13, 2014 19:28:12 GMT
Will the CFO see you as a peer? Just because you have a title, doesn't mean he's going to act like he should.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:48:38 GMT
Will the CFO see you as a peer? Just because you have a title, doesn't mean he's going to act like he should. This is my biggest concern and I don't know. Because of this concern I do go back and forth on if staying is best for me. At least I would be able to stand up for myself. Right now I can't but if I wasn't working under him I feel like I would have more of a voice.
1. How much did the CEO know about the situation BEFORE you came to him? He's re-acting not acting to solve the problem. This speaks volumes to me.
Good question - I'm not sure if the CEO knew it was this bad. People are afraid of him (CFO) and since we don't have an actual HR department there isn't anyone to go to without fear of retribution from CFO. This is a big problem and I shared that with CEO last night.
3. The position has been budgeted since 2012 but has yet to be filled? That's a red flag to me. Only you know why this is, and I don't expect you to share it here but I take it into consideration when thinking about this.
When it was budgeted back in 2012 there were only 30 employees. Now they have 70 and still growing. At the time, they didn't need a full time HR person - they do now. That's why it wasn't filled..it was something that two or three people could do in their spare time. Now...they need an HR Person badly.
I have a lot to think about over the next few days. I'm going out of town tomorrow and will have a lot of driving time by myself to figure this all out. DH is supporting me no matter what I decide. He sees the pros and cons with both places but I think he would prefer me to take the new job just because he can't stand the CFO either.
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Post by bethany102399 on Nov 13, 2014 21:04:42 GMT
so if you took the job, you'd be head of HR. Working with someone many people in the company are afraid of. Is this something you want to take on?
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Post by annabella on Nov 13, 2014 22:00:35 GMT
This happened at my old job in the accounting dept. Now I don't know what happened behind the scenes or what her intentions where but this is what was revealed to the public. A woman got a job offer for another company and supposedly told our company that she would only stay if they matched their title and salary, they did and she got an instant promotion and changed her hierarchy of who she was under/over. The assumption was she only did that to get a quick promotion, not really planning on leaving.
Either way I think this would be an easy sell to the company you interviewed with. Tell them that when you gave them your resignation letter, they offered you a big promotion and thus you've decided to stay.
However I think I would pick a new job environment.
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Post by kikitwo on Nov 14, 2014 2:30:23 GMT
I think I would go with a new job. It sounds like you have doubts about being in contact with that toxic person. Good luck with your decision, and once made, don't look back. Keep us informed on your decision.
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Post by Rachel on Nov 14, 2014 2:49:31 GMT
A similar situation happened to me way back when I was young so I learned my lesson early. I decided to stay with my old job. Three weeks later I was looking to leave again. The lesson I learned: when you have decided to go, go. Nothing is going to change enough to make staying worth it. The lucky thing for me was the new job I turned down hired me three weeks later anyway! They told me that the fact my old job made me an offer to stay proved that I was an employee worth hiring. I'd think long and hard before turning down the new job.
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Post by Nanner on Nov 14, 2014 2:58:40 GMT
If you stay at your current job, you will still have to be dealing with the CFO. Your hands will still be tied, because I highly doubt he's going to change his ways and you'll have to be trying to solve the problem of him when the people working directly for him, come to you to complain about how he treats them. I think it'll be really frustrating for you because really, what will you be able to do. You can't terminate the CFO.
If it were me, I'd move on to the new firm.
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