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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 17:57:42 GMT
great twitter post and comments:
a few choice replies (not as tweets because they take ages to load):
Sanitary products wouldn’t just be tax free, they’d be free free. And there would be monthly paid sick time. And no one would complain about abortion again.
If men menstruated there would be free health care all over the world, especially in the US.
Yes. I have fibrous cysts and had to undergo ablation (best surgery, ever) because I was dangerously anemic from my menses. Most men have no clue. It's hellish.
Sometimes cramps are so bad they feel like giving birth. The cramps are in your legs, in your back and lower abdomen at the SAME time. This is EVERY month year after year for 30+ years. Men have the gall to say "get over it, it can't be that bad". Men have no idea.
If they got pregnant and had babies we'd have Universal Basic Income.
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What are yours?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 17:59:51 GMT
Two years of maternity leave one year for mom then the next for dad.
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Post by iowgirl on Mar 1, 2021 18:03:08 GMT
Two years of maternity leave one year for mom then the next for dad. This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement?
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Post by busy on Mar 1, 2021 18:06:08 GMT
Two years of maternity leave one year for mom then the next for dad. This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement? It's not paid by the businesses, at least not directly. Conceptually, it would likely be similar to Social Security and unemployment - everyone* pays in, employers pay in, and it's disbursed by the government. *yes there are exceptions, no that doesn't change the principle.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 18:12:23 GMT
Then the need for early daycare wouldn’t be impossible to find like it is here. Going back to work 6 weeks after childbirth is so sad for Mom and baby. Also child tax credit of $400/mo for the family.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 18:13:18 GMT
Yes I am a socialist.
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Post by busy on Mar 1, 2021 18:14:27 GMT
I will never understand why so many believe paid family leave is JUST IMPOSSIBLE AND TOO EXPENSIVE. Literally almost every country in the world does it to some degree. Except us. It's shameful. There are plenty of models to follow.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 1, 2021 18:16:16 GMT
If men menstruated, then they could get pregnant and there would be free birth control on every corner. The morning after pill would be given away in Pez dispensers.
Pretty sure they wouldn't have to call a hotline to help them determine if they should get an abortion or not either.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 18:22:55 GMT
Private abortion clinics with no protestors chained to the fences done secretly and cleanly and safely everywhere!
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 18:23:23 GMT
Notice I said everywhere.
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 1, 2021 19:09:20 GMT
Canada gives women a full year. I have a co-worker in Canada who's just getting ready to come back after her 1 year off. I'm not sure what Dad's get in Canada, but the one year for mothers is super nice.
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Post by Layce on Mar 1, 2021 19:16:37 GMT
Gloria Steinem, circa the 70sSteinem states that if men menstruated rather than women, that it would be seen as a manly process, not something nasty or unnatural. Men would go around freely bragging about their cycles or how heavy their flow was. Justin case, I researched her work on Wikipedia (flol). Good God this woman is almost 90! I hope she lives forever Layce
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Post by papersilly on Mar 1, 2021 19:28:02 GMT
if they did, it would be like a monthly cold/flu attack. and can you imagine if someone had to leave a construction job because they leaked through their pants and had to change? or they are at a football game and none of their buddies brought an extra pad? or they can't do a power point presentation because the cramps are so bad?
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Post by katiejane on Mar 1, 2021 20:17:55 GMT
Then the need for early daycare wouldn’t be impossible to find like it is here. Going back to work 6 weeks after childbirth is so sad for Mom and baby. Also child tax credit of $400/mo for the family. I have no idea why you do not have sensible maternity leave. I cannot imagine what it must be like returning to work so soon after giving birth.
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Post by busy on Mar 1, 2021 21:14:05 GMT
This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement? What happens to the "replacement" once the person on maternity leave comes back? Booted out into the unemployment line? And what happens if the replacement decides to have a child while employed? Find a replacement for the replacement? What about people who work for themselves? Such as a house cleaner? Or an owner of a small landscape company? Can that person take a year off as well? Again, almost every country in the world has figured this out. We can too. In no way are these insurmountable issues.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 1, 2021 21:18:00 GMT
What happens to the "replacement" once the person on maternity leave comes back? Booted out into the unemployment line? And what happens if the replacement decides to have a child while employed? Find a replacement for the replacement? What about people who work for themselves? Such as a house cleaner? Or an owner of a small landscape company? Can that person take a year off as well? Again, almost every country in the world has figured this out. We can too. In no way are these insurmountable issues. Exactly. These are the types of questions asked to make an excuse for not doing it. Let’s look for ways to make it happen instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:20:05 GMT
Then the need for early daycare wouldn’t be impossible to find like it is here. Going back to work 6 weeks after childbirth is so sad for Mom and baby. Also child tax credit of $400/mo for the family. I have no idea why you do not have sensible maternity leave. I cannot imagine what it must be like returning to work so soon after giving birth. "Winning paid family and medical leave for everyone. Join the movement for an America where family comes first." paidleave.us/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:25:09 GMT
This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement? What happens to the "replacement" once the person on maternity leave comes back? Booted out into the unemployment line? And what happens if the replacement decides to have a child while employed? Find a replacement for the replacement? What about people who work for themselves? Such as a house cleaner? Or an owner of a small landscape company? Can that person take a year off as well? Maybe we can ask the developed nations who've figured this out how it works, cuz they sure as #(*$ have done a better job than our stupid "Family Values" bs mantra w/no actual legislation to back it up.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 1, 2021 21:40:04 GMT
if they did, it would be like a monthly cold/flu attack. and can you imagine if someone had to leave a construction job because they leaked through their pants and had to change? or they are at a football game and none of their buddies brought an extra pad? or they can't do a power point presentation because the cramps are so bad? I LOL at this. haha. "or they are at a football game and none of their buddies brought an extra pad?" This part ^^^^^ hahaha can you imagine their conversation: "dude, can you check and see? i feel like i leaked through my pants." (as he walks in front of friend so friend can see) "oh, dude, you totally leaked. but it's not big. just take your jacket off and tie it around your waist. should cover it right up"
"ok, but dude, walk close behind me so no one sees it."
"i gotcha, dude..."
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 1, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
If men menstruated there would be a an extra week of paid time off each month for when they were laid up in bed moaning and groaning and their spouses would get paid as well so they could care for them as they suffered. If they didn't have a spouse or partner a home care aid would be employed (and paid for by the government) to cater to their every whim. There would initially be mass shortages of heating pads, otc pain relievers and chocolate. God forbid men should ever get pregnant. They would have to hire people to carry them from point a to point b at the first thought of swollen ankles.
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Post by dawnnikol on Mar 1, 2021 21:56:37 GMT
There would be more research into actual treatment for people who have such horrible periods. And probably a pill that would fix it all. If men gave birth, they'd also make damn sure there was less of a mortality rate for parent and child.
There also would not be a requirement to have had XXX children before you could have a hysterectomy.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 1, 2021 22:16:06 GMT
This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement? What happens to the "replacement" once the person on maternity leave comes back? Booted out into the unemployment line? And what happens if the replacement decides to have a child while employed? Find a replacement for the replacement? What about people who work for themselves? Such as a house cleaner? Or an owner of a small landscape company? Can that person take a year off as well? You can go back to work sooner if you want. All this is acceptable. You can go back at 6 weeks or 6 months. The permanent person has the job and if the next person has a baby they hire someone else.
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Post by inkedup on Mar 1, 2021 22:42:48 GMT
If men menstruated, carried babies and gave birth, we would have found a way to stop menses and babies would be grown in incubators. They'd get disability for the duration of their periods and PMS would be treated with palliative meds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 3:11:12 GMT
Reminder: Some men do menstruate. Even I forget this sometimes.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 2, 2021 3:14:14 GMT
Reminder: Some men do menstruate. Even I forget this sometimes. I am thinking Ted Cruz kinds of men.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 4:43:00 GMT
Reminder: Some men do menstruate. Even I forget this sometimes. I am thinking Ted Cruz kinds of men. Trans men.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 2, 2021 4:45:18 GMT
I am thinking Ted Cruz kinds of men. Trans men. Trans men deserve nothing but kindness.
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Post by milocat on Mar 2, 2021 5:01:17 GMT
Canada gives women a full year. I have a co-worker in Canada who's just getting ready to come back after her 1 year off. I'm not sure what Dad's get in Canada, but the one year for mothers is super nice. Canada gives 18 months which can be split between maternity and paternity leave.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 2, 2021 5:12:53 GMT
Canada gives women a full year. I have a co-worker in Canada who's just getting ready to come back after her 1 year off. I'm not sure what Dad's get in Canada, but the one year for mothers is super nice. Canada gives 18 months which can be split between maternity and paternity leave. Awesome! I didn’t know it was that much!
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Post by sueg on Mar 2, 2021 10:02:54 GMT
This sounds awesome, but how would it be financially feasible? Especially for a small business? How could you afford to pay an employees salary for an entire year that they did not work, plus the salary of their replacement? What happens to the "replacement" once the person on maternity leave comes back? Booted out into the unemployment line? And what happens if the replacement decides to have a child while employed? Find a replacement for the replacement? What about people who work for themselves? Such as a house cleaner? Or an owner of a small landscape company? Can that person take a year off as well? 1. Replacement positions are usually short term contracts, which expire when the person returns. You know that going in. When I started teaching, my first 2 positions were maternity leave. The first ended after a year, when the other teacher came back. The second, I ended up in a permanent position in that school, and only left due to us moving for DH's work. Some people choose to take a string of temporary roles, rather than looking for long term positions, so that they get a variety of experiences. 2. Usually, you have to work for a certain length of time before maternity leave kicks in. And yes, you'd need to find a replacement if ANYTHING, not just pregnancy happened to the replacement. 3. It depends on the country and how maternity leave is funded. If it is through a general tax levy, or part of health insurance (remember, most countries with maternity leave provisions also have universal health insurance), then it is no different to anyone else taking their year off. If you work for yourself, you would have to hire someone to cover for you, just like any other boss. And again you don't have to take a full year off, if you don't want to. It is that you have that option.
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