quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Mar 7, 2021 17:06:25 GMT
Always difficult when you only get to hear one side isn’t it... Yes, always difficult when you only get to hear on side of it and thru the lens of the person who wasn't (or didn't seem to be) very knowledgeable of the Royal Family. Meghan does try to appear to be of knowledge/intelligent of the various charities that she used to be "Champion" of. Why didn't she really research about the Royal Family, British customs/protocols and lifestyle before she married Harry. I'm sure that if she would have asked the questions, to actually be interested; she would have been given answers. Instead she chose to be *ignorant* (Webster Dictionary meaning) about so many things that are British. To me, she seemed to wanted to be spoon-fed about rituals, ceremony and the traditions of "being British" and then seemed to be pouty about people not telling her things. The Duchess of Cambridge grew up in Briton and was aware of the many traditions and general ways of life, as many of these were everyday rituals. Instead, Megan decided (in my mind,) without research on the "whys" of things, to simply dismiss them and then do them in the 'American way', which is so very different than the British way. She worked in Canada for the 7 seasons of 'Suits' and had many Canadian friends. She could have asked some of them, especially Jessica Mulroney, as her FIL was a former Canadian Prime Minister. Canada has some of the protocol/traditions/ways of doing things that are 'similar' to British ways of doing things. All she had to do was ASK! I think that this will be an interview of a person who clouds everything with American ways of doing things, without respect for the Royal Family traditions. Harry appears to be weak, almost down-trodden with his never-ending grief for his mother and how she died. Especially now that he is the same age as when his mother died. I have read the many *pea stories* of how they feel when they super-cede the age of a parent who died young. He loves his wife and wants to please her, so I don't think that they really thought of everything, prior to leaving the Royal Family. A consult with a British Constitutional Lawyer would have really helped them to make their way a bit smoother. These are simply my thoughts on this topic, as seen thru the lens of a Canadian. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 7, 2021 17:15:59 GMT
No, I will read about it tomorrow.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 7, 2021 17:21:42 GMT
I plan on watching.
With that said....
I know the questions will be geared in their favor and mostly likely only pre-approved questions will be asked.
As well as the answers, will likely be well rehearsed prior to the interview.
As with anything and everything, there are multiple sides to any story.
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Post by pinklady on Mar 7, 2021 17:24:09 GMT
Harry appears to be weak, almost down-trodden with his never-ending grief for his mother and how she died. Wow, what a shitty way to describe it. The kid was 12 when his mother died. The royal family treated his mother like shit for years and I'm gonna venture a guess that he witnessed a lot of the behind the scenes goings on that probably tainted his views on the media and the royal establishment and totally screwed with his head. No the Queen won’t be making a statement, I doubt it very much. She's too classy to do that That's an interesting take on the queen. |
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Post by grammanisi on Mar 7, 2021 17:35:08 GMT
I haven't decided. I cannot stand Oprah.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 7, 2021 17:37:07 GMT
Harry appears to be weak, almost down-trodden with his never-ending grief for his mother and how she died. Wow, what a shitty way to describe it. The kid was 12 when his mother died. The royal family treated his mother like shit for years and I'm gonna venture a guess that he witnessed a lot of the behind the scenes goings on that probably tainted his views on the media and the royal establishment and totally screwed with his head. I agree. She's too classy to do that That's an interesting take on the queen. I’ll be honest I don’t follow the royals like so many do but I think she has more class than Meghan at this point.
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Post by mnmloveli on Mar 7, 2021 17:38:52 GMT
I don't want to watch it (and I probably don't need to since it'll be everywhere afterwards!) and I'm not looking forward to the fallout either. Yeah, this about sums it up for me. I'm interested in the royal family when they are acting like royals. I'm not interested in them when they are acting like dime a dozen reality tv stars. And I have never been a fan of Oprah. The fact that she is their personal friend removes any shred of legitimacy this interview could have had for me. I feel the same way. I thought they didn’t want to be in the spotlight. They’re sure not acting like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 17:48:43 GMT
Always difficult when you only get to hear one side isn’t it... It will be interesting to see if the Queen comes out with a statement. Do you think they got to see the interview before hand? It would be a first in over 70 years if she did. No the Palace won't comment on it, they never do. I'm not really interested in what she has to say really. I'll watch the Queens commonwealth speech/celebration instead! It doesn't sir here tonight anyhow. The snippets that CBS have leaked out are dreadfully disrespectful IMO when Prince Phillip is still in hospital. In addition to the suggestion that she was silenced. No, she wasn't silenced but she did need to understand the constitutional role that the Royal Family has. They have the highest diplomacy, not only about what they say in public but they NEVER voice their thought on anything that could be considered political or a criticism of any other country or their leaders however unsavoury it might be to them. Lets face it the Queen has had any an unsavoury moment during her long reign. That is what Meghan couldn't understand I think and it sounds as if she wasn't willing to be guided by the people ( the firm) that knew far more about that protocol. Prince Harry should know better though and rather than go along with her every little wish he should have educated her as to her role as a working member of the Royal Family and what it stood for. |
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Post by PEAcan pie on Mar 7, 2021 17:52:14 GMT
I don't want to watch it (and I probably don't need to since it'll be everywhere afterwards!) and I'm not looking forward to the fallout either. Yeah, this about sums it up for me. I'm interested in the royal family when they are acting like royals. I'm not interested in them when they are acting like dime a dozen reality tv stars. And I have never been a fan of Oprah. The fact that she is their personal friend removes any shred of legitimacy this interview could have had for me. Exactly how I feel, I am actually very disappointed they have taken it to this level. So many things going on in this world right now. Did Megan actually think being a royal meant no hard work? Being in the spot light and having tabloids comment on all you do good or bad is part of being a famous/Royalty. The fact that they have destroyed their relationships with both sides of their families speak volumes for me. I feel like they are selling out the Royals so they can cash-in and support their lavish lifestyle and it makes me sick. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 17:59:21 GMT
I don't know ... don't you think she is making a statement by responding to supposed bully rumors two years after the fact? Come on. Seems like tit for tat IMO. I read or watched something a couple of days ago that mentioned the fact that by doing this they've broken with all past protocols for making statements in the past. It also was mentioned that this opens the Royals up to more "HR" type complaints becoming Public because now they can't stand by past protocols without looking like hypocrites. I don't pretend to understand The Royals, but I thought it was an interesting commentary. I think whatever they say will be THEIR truth. Not everyone will agree with it, but it'll be the way they see things. Except that there is no proof that it was them that mentioned the bullying to the Times reporter. The only statement that has come out of the palace was, having read the Times allegations the matter will be investigated by their HR. I'm guessing that it was one of the two people that left very suddenly that leaked that to the press, maybe because one or the other was the one that was being bullied. Their head of communications team did report it at the time but for some unknown reason it didn't go any further - wonder why? did they take the decision not to upset the one being accused The bullying story was printed after CBS had started leaking snippets of the interview - maybe the victim decided they were not going to keep quiet any longer. |
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Post by whipea on Mar 7, 2021 17:59:44 GMT
I assumed she was being sarcastic. No, I really didn't know who H and M were Same. Thought H & M was a clothing store. And no - not interested in them or the Oprah industries. |
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Post by peatlejuice on Mar 7, 2021 18:15:28 GMT
This is, and will likely forever be, how I view Harry and Meghan. I admit I'll be reading the inevitable Pea review thread, though.  |
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Post by valincal on Mar 7, 2021 18:19:46 GMT
I’m not sure. I do know that it is not going to improve the optics of their situation. There will be more fodder for speculation and hatred of Meghan. They aren’t doing themselves any favours. And I like them.
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Post by summer on Mar 7, 2021 18:23:06 GMT
I’m definitely watching, looking forward to it.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 7, 2021 18:42:40 GMT
I don’t want to give them the hits. I’ll be keeping track on Reddit. For two people who claim to have left to live their own lives they sure do whine about the BRF a lot. They’ve been gone for a year, secured deals with Netflix and Spotify, why are they still whining? Move the fuck on. But they can’t, because the only reason they are even slightly relevant is because of the BRF.
No, the Queen is not going to “tit for tat”. H&M know that they have the advantage in because the BRF “never complains, never explains”. H&M aren’t playing the long game. I find this whole spectacle unseemly, and I’m an American. H&M are venturing into Kardashian territory.
Since when do we not take this workplace bullying seriously? These allegations have been in the public sphere as gossip for years. If I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus by a previous boss on national television, WORLDWIDE, I’d be speaking up also. Plus, this doesn’t make the Firm look good either. Basically, employees are saying the Firm covered up the bad behavior to shield H&M.
And what exactly did the BRF do to them? Expect them to follow the protocols that every working royal follows. They decided they didn’t want that. That is their prerogative. So they left. What’s the beef?
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 7, 2021 18:54:04 GMT
This is, and will likely forever be, how I view Harry and Meghan. I admit I'll be reading the inevitable Pea review thread, though. View AttachmentI have to admit that this is how I see them too. |
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 7, 2021 19:06:18 GMT
Harry appears to be weak, almost down-trodden with his never-ending grief for his mother and how she died. Wow, what a shitty way to describe it. The kid was 12 when his mother died. The royal family treated his mother like shit for years and I'm gonna venture a guess that he witnessed a lot of the behind the scenes goings on that probably tainted his views on the media and the royal establishment and totally screwed with his head I am the same age as Harry. My dad died one month before Diana when I was 12. It's only been within the last couple of years I have truly not been screwed up in the head over it. And I wasn't forced to walk behind his coffin while the world watched and took pictures. So yeah, I get it and I think it's pretty shitty to describe him that way too. |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 7, 2021 19:18:39 GMT
I plan on watching. With that said.... I know the questions will be geared in their favor and mostly likely only pre-approved questions will be asked. As well as the answers, will likely be well rehearsed prior to the interview. As with anything and everything, there are multiple sides to any story. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by MZF on Mar 7, 2021 19:31:50 GMT
I’m recording it and will watch it later
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Post by wellway on Mar 7, 2021 19:49:17 GMT
Not British but have lived here long enough to see the interaction between the Royal family and the British public.
The Royal family are not just another rich, well connected family. They are part and parcel of the governing framework of the UK and the Commonwealth. They are apolitical in their public life, they don't vote. Actually not sure how far down the pecking line the no voting thing goes. I remember there was a lot of talk around letters Prince Charles wrote to government depts years ago about subjects he is passionate about. The talk was around whether Charles was trying to influence government policy and overstepping his mark. It caused a lot of discussion.
They perform soft diplomacy duties for the country. The Queen is head of the Church of England. They are also part and parcel of the social, cultural and religious calendar of the country. They walk a fine line between performing those duties and not stepping out of bounds. They can't and don't talk freely about a lot of topics
The Royal life is like a big hulk of a ship, it's steers a course defined by history and turns slowly. It's worked for them for centuries, all the ceremonies and rituals exist for a reason. Reminding us of all history, legal and constitutional workings of the UK.
If Harry didn't prepare Meghan for all that being part of royal life involved then that was extremely short sighted of him.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 7, 2021 19:51:19 GMT
I'll be watching!
These two are oddly fascinating in how they are imploding their lives, especially Meghan and her scorched earth policy when things don't play out the way she wants. First all her own family except her mother and now all of his.
I'm actually surprised they are doing this now, and wonder what their end game is?
Usually well known people start doing the talk show circuit when they have something to promote...a new film, new book etc.
These two are going into this with nothing new, one single podcast, no shows on Netflix and nothing put a front page for their "foundation".
The only thing they have to talk about is how miserable their lives have been - and I think in the middle of a once in a 100 year pandemic, with hundreds of thousand dead, people who have lost their jobs and their homes etc, the whinging of two spoiled brats is not only tone deaf, but risks going down like a lead balloon.
Why are they so desperate for sympathy & to play victim?
They are going on TV to spill the beans and to bitch about their former "employers" (yes it's a family, but it's also a business)...how will that attract people wanting to work with them in the future? Who will want to join forces with the miserable quitters who sue everyone and will air their family/work grievances in public?
They should have waited until they had stuff to promote "watch our 3 new shows on Netflix" and "look at all the things our foundation is doing for xxx...join us and donate now" and "listen to our 30 podcasts"
Being happy, successful and productive, that would be a much better strategy for them going forward, but for some reason they want to push this "victim" narrative.
That's why I'm fascinated about what they think this will achieve for them?
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Post by catck on Mar 7, 2021 20:00:34 GMT
I've set it to record so I can watch after I've read all the comments!! Why is the show called Meghan and Harry, it's always William and Kate so I don't understand how M gets star billing!!!!
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Post by luckyjune on Mar 7, 2021 20:02:41 GMT
We haven't had cable TV for ten years (and rarely miss it), so I'll catch it when it's out somewhere online.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 7, 2021 20:05:58 GMT
Why is the show called Meghan and Harry A. There's a reason the Palace staff called him "the hostage"... B. They aren't royal anymore, so no-one has to follow any set protocol C. but also as I understand it, the majority of the interview is Meghan only and that Harry joins in 'later' |
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Post by sam9 on Mar 7, 2021 20:14:02 GMT
I thought people were born royal with blue blood in their veins. Harry is therefore still royal and more special than everyone else, just because he was born into that family. Wow.
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Post by auntiepeas on Mar 7, 2021 20:29:31 GMT
I plan on watching (7.30pm, Tuesday evening here I n NZ).
I think it will be a sympathetic interview with both questions and answers having been carefully considered by lawyers - as is pretty standard for a controversial issue.
There are multiple sides to any story and everyone has the right to be heard. However, intentionally distorting the truth is never okay regardless of whether you’re a member of the Royal Family, a ‘Palace insider’, an official spokesperson, a member of the Fourth Estate, or simply a member of the public.
I also think there is ample evidence “the firm” is an inherently unhealthy institution.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 7, 2021 20:31:27 GMT
I'll record it. One thing that fascinates me in all these Meghan discussions is blaming her for severing ties with some family members. She arguably has a much better track record at successful relationships than her half-siblings.  |
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Post by cmhs on Mar 7, 2021 20:44:58 GMT
Wait! What! There's a Harry & Meghan Oprah Special on tonight!?!? OMG, I wish I knew ==>total sarcasm there.
CBS has been advertising this special to death, even working it into every news broadcast for weeks. I don't think I can bring myself to watch it.
I usually watch CBS news and the other night I switched to ABC because I couldn't take one more story about this special. Wouldn't you know it, even the friggin ABC news was doing a blurb on it.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 7, 2021 20:47:18 GMT
She arguably has a much better track record at successful relationships than her half-siblings. Really? Which ones...apart from her mother? She ended her first marriage after less than 2 years and she mailed her rings back to him. Not exactly a successful result there. There's more to her family than her two half siblings, she doesn't have relationships with any of her family - only her mother was at the wedding, one person from both sides of her family. And we have plenty of evidence of Harry having a much better track record of both personal and family relationships, until a certain point....when was that? Oh yes, when he met Meghan. Now most of those are barely hanging by a thread. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 7, 2021 20:49:26 GMT
I'll be watching! These two are oddly fascinating in how they are imploding their lives, especially Meghan and her scorched earth policy when things don't play out the way she wants. First all her own family except her mother and now all of his. I'm actually surprised they are doing this now, and wonder what their end game is? Usually well known people start doing the talk show circuit when they have something to promote...a new film, new book etc. These two are going into this with nothing new, one single podcast, no shows on Netflix and nothing put a front page for their "foundation". The only thing they have to talk about is how miserable their lives have been - and I think in the middle of a once in a 100 year pandemic, with hundreds of thousand dead, people who have lost their jobs and their homes etc, the whinging of two spoiled brats is not only tone deaf, but risks going down like a lead balloon. Why are they so desperate for sympathy & to play victim? They are going on TV to spill the beans and to bitch about their former "employers" (yes it's a family, but it's also a business)...how will that attract people wanting to work with them in the future? Who will want to join forces with the miserable quitters who sue everyone and will air their family/work grievances in public? They should have waited until they had stuff to promote "watch our 3 new shows on Netflix" and "look at all the things our foundation is doing for xxx...join us and donate now" and "listen to our 30 podcasts"
Being happy, successful and productive, that would be a much better strategy for them going forward, but for some reason they want to push this "victim" narrative.
That's why I'm fascinated about what they think this will achieve for them? I totally agree with you. I was rooting for Harry & Meghan, but while I can't put my finger on it, they've soured to me. I don't think she set out to do it ("ruin/detroy" the BRF), but I honestly wonder if she thought she'd get in there and really make some new rules/traditions, and carve their own paths AND be all royal family, their way (having their cake and eat it too). Now, I think they have tried to call the shots, the BRF has put their foot down, and H&M have gotten EXTREMELY bad PR advice - they are sabotaging themselves constantly. I am kind of frustrated that the Queen WON'T set the record straight. I almost wish she would shoot back with her side, but I know she won't. I also think the timing blows with Pr. Phillip in the hospital - I am sure this has been on the schedule for a while and they couldn't have forecasted a sick granddad, but damn. awful timing. I will edit the post title too - sorry about that! |
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