Harry & Meghan Oprah Interview Tonight

I think that at the moment, the family will be focussing their collective attention on Prince Phillip, who looked absolutely ghastly yesterday, on his release from hospital.

There is no proof that any of them have talked except the word of a CBS show presenter in the US.

She is American, but has a good depth of knowledge about the Monarchy. I don't know for sure, but I would guess she may also have some sort of legal background based on the manner in which she presents the facts and her opinions.

Bridget in MD - thanks for the link 

“Harry speaks to his father and bother - then tells Gayle King exactly what was said and Gayle goes on her morning TV show and repeats it publically...WTF?”


I think you’re missing the point.  When one implies they were told “exactly what was said” it would mean they were told verbatim what was said.

 It’s clear that was not the case.  What Gayle King got was a snippet of the conversations Harry had with father and brother.  “I talked to them and it was not productive.”  

You have no idea what was specifically said by his father and brother for Harry to believe it was not productive.  Therefore you do not know “exactly what was said”.

Now as to the rest of what Gayle King said in her video I have no idea when and where she got that information.  Nor do I believe she is lying.

“Harry speaks to his father and bother - then tells Gayle King exactly what was said and Gayle goes on her morning TV show and repeats it publically...WTF?””


From the video Gayle King said “The word I was given was those conversations were not productive but they are glad they at least they started a conversation”.

Now I don’t know, but here in the states that quote does not constitute “exactly what was said”.   Maybe Down Under it does but not here.

But let’s continue...

Then she goes on with “And I think” not “Harry said”,  and precedes to outline what she believes the issues the couple are having with that gang in the UK.  No where did she quote anything the father or brother had to say that was “not productive “.  

Do I think she is making this up, no but nothing she said after her original comment about the unproductive conversations can be attributed specifically back to the unproductive conversations.  Because if there had been she would have let you know. Because that is what reporters do.

Which brings me back to my original point.  No one knows exactly what was said except the parties involved.  And as far as I know, no one on this board is one of the parties involved, which means none of us, including you, knows exactly what was said. 

And yes I’m making assumptions because I don’t know exactly what was said and freely admit it.

A lot of the furore with all this seems to me to come down to what is often called ‘celebrity culture’ .....
‘Celebrities’ like to keep their names in front of the public. That’s how they became, and stay, celebrities; if the public is no longer interested in them, they somewhat lose their celebrity status.

The members of the Royal Family have not been ‘celebrities’ in the same manner as, say, actors or politicians or sports stars. Yes, of course the public is interested in them but their lives would continue largely unchanged even if they stayed out of the limelight. Think of Princess Anne and, even more so, Prince Edward; they are the daughter and son of the Queen and yet they not caught up in the so-called celebrity culture. 

I for one, don’t think of the Royal Family as celebrities, they are just he Royal Family doing what the Royal Family has done for hundreds and hundreds of years (changing as society changes of course).

Meghan has really only known celebrity-culture, and so of course that is how she thinks of things; it’s important for ‘celebrities’ to stay in the limelight. That is in no way a criticism, it’s just the way things are.

Harry is now caught between the two worlds, and I can see how sometimes he will get things wrong. Things he took for granted as a senior member of the Royal Family will work very differently as a member of “celebrity culture”. Conversations with others are a case in point - I think the Royal Family have had an expectation that in some circumstances they can talk to others, even journalists, without their conversations being reported; while celebrities almost rely on their conversations being reported.

The world is changing in that I think the Royal Family are now being treated as celebrities by the press, but the Royal Family largely don’t think of themselves as celebrities. The last few years have Harry very much between the 2 ways of being.

I just do.
You stick to your little fantasy world where people don't behave they way people do, and I'll continue to live in the real one where it isn't rocket science to understand how things like this play out.

Since when did wanting to know the facts become living in a fantasy world?  

Lets be honest, you believe this because you want to believe it even if you have no facts to support it.  

You have absolutely no way of knowing what Harry told Gayle King.  And because of your intense dislike of Harry any of your assumptions or “I just know” about Harry will always reflect your dislike of him.