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Post by maryland on Mar 8, 2021 1:01:34 GMT
No but my husband just ran upstairs to tape it. He is the biggest celebrity and royal family gossip fan!
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 8, 2021 1:06:11 GMT
When they decided to stop back I respected them for doing what they felt was right for their family. Given what Harry saw first hand happen to his mother I understood and could get behind where they were coming from. However, it is harder and harder to believe that wanting privacy was what it was all about when they continue to keep pulling stunts like this. If they want to have privacy then I respect that....but then don’t go constantly looking for media attention. After this airs you know it is only going to worsen their chance for privacy. So what is this really about? Harry having an ax to grind with the RF for the way they treated his mom? I am of the opinion that this isn’t all on Meghan. I think Meghan might be more of a scapegoat more than anything for Harry. I don’t believe she is pushing or at the very least has to push very hard for him to turn his back on the RF. That was set in motion the day his mom died. I agree. Harry is a willing participant. And I wonder how much he wants to punish his family for the treatment of his mom. This is the impression I have had too. Meghan gave Harry the excuse he was looking for to get out from under their thumb.
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Post by auntiepeas on Mar 8, 2021 1:07:39 GMT
Wow, that was incredibly uncomfortable to watch. The way these young men obtained that footage was wrong. The “commentators” are no better.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 1:11:40 GMT
Hmmm. not sure I believe her whole down playing of the casualness of her 1st meeting the Queen, or being in the RF. I thought she said her British friends all warned her ahead of time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 1:17:51 GMT
This is, and will likely forever be, how I view Harry and Meghan. I admit I'll be reading the inevitable Pea review thread, though. This is me, too. Could care less (see what I did there ) about H&M or Oprah’s sensationalizing. But I will read a Pea thread about it....because...well....it’s the Peas.
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Post by edie3 on Mar 8, 2021 1:33:08 GMT
What did she expect? She didn't research it or ask Kate? Boo Hoo!
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Post by sideways on Mar 8, 2021 1:35:19 GMT
Or maybe it isn’t all her? There's plenty of blame to go around. But when you choose to join an institution like the Royal Family you should probably not go in with the attitude of changing things up and doing things your way until you've put the work in to become established in the organization. And you know this is the case...how? Were you a fly on the wall?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 1:42:17 GMT
Who IS the firm? Or who was it that made those decisions? Doesn’t it come down directly to the Queen? Or prince Charles??! Who is they??
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Post by sunny1016 on Mar 8, 2021 1:47:37 GMT
Who IS the firm? Or who was it that made those decisions? Doesn’t it come down directly to the Queen? Or prince Charles??! Who is they?? Yes. That is driving me crazy. WHO are THEY. She is saying a whole lot of nothing.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 8, 2021 1:48:51 GMT
Ummmm OMG I’m not even sure I’ll make it through this. This is really what she thinks/believes?
What she is saying about how they said they didn’t want Archie to be a prince? Or how worried how dark he may be? I’m flabbergasted. I don’t believe it. Or at least I truly hope she is lying if she basically is saying the BRF is racist. I really thought she had a good relationship with the Queen!
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Post by scrappinmom3 on Mar 8, 2021 1:51:03 GMT
I’m watching. Who knows what the actual truth is at the end of the day.
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Post by Laurie on Mar 8, 2021 1:55:41 GMT
So what is this really about? Harry having an ax to grind with the RF for the way they treated his mom? I am of the opinion that this isn’t all on Meghan. I think Meghan might be more of a scapegoat more than anything for Harry. I don’t believe she is pushing or at the very least has to push very hard for him to turn his back on the RF. That was set in motion the day his mom died. agree If it doesn’t work out (like people say) then he can play the poor Harry card that he was just smitten in love and doing what she said.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 8, 2021 1:56:18 GMT
Ummmm OMG I’m not even sure I’ll make it through this. This is really what she thinks/believes? What she is saying about how they said they didn’t want Archie to be a prince? Or how worried how dark he Mark be? I’m flabbergasted. I don’t believe it. Or at least I truly hope she is lying if she basically is saying the BRF is racist. I really thought she had a good relationship with the Queen! If they would've had those worries, wouldn't that have been a conversation before they were married - not when she was with child later?
The more of this I watch, the less I believe of what she's saying.
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Post by mom on Mar 8, 2021 2:02:04 GMT
There's plenty of blame to go around. But when you choose to join an institution like the Royal Family you should probably not go in with the attitude of changing things up and doing things your way until you've put the work in to become established in the organization. And you know this is the case...how? Were you a fly on the wall? I dont know this for fact. I am speculating just like everyone else. But I can read. And its been no secret M + H chose to do things their own way vs the way that has been established by those who came before.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 2:03:00 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born.
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 8, 2021 2:03:14 GMT
Like others above have asked, I'm watching and this I want to know, because Diana said basically the same thing. Who exactly is telling them these things? Is it Charles? The Queen? Anne? William? Is it advisors to the Queen, I mean, why doesn't anyone say exactly who is making their lives miserable?
I don't know why Meghan doesn't seem as likeable to me, but I feel like she is telling HER truth. The other parties would likely tell it differently. Harry chose her after lots of shopping around, and his head must be spinning trying to keep her happy and deal with her, but unlike his father with his mother, he loves Meghan and that is obvious.
And I don't care who you are, when someone tells you they want to die, you take them to the hospital. She was pregnant, so she could have been admitted for anything related to pregnancy for the media.
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Post by sideways on Mar 8, 2021 2:05:19 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born. She didn’t say she wanted to commit suicide. She said she was having dark thoughts and felt she didn’t want to be alive anymore and it scared her. Your comment shows extreme ignorance as to what it’s like to be in such a dark place.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 8, 2021 2:07:44 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born. I feel like a dick for saying this (bc I truly would never poo poo someone’s mental health or cries for help) but I wonder if she is using the Diana narrative bc we know she needed help and didn’t get it (didn’t Diana throw herself down the stairs while pregnant with one of the Princes?). Ugh.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 8, 2021 2:08:24 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born. She didn’t say she wanted to commit suicide. She said she was having dark thoughts and felt she didn’t want to be alive anymore and it scared her. Your comment shows extreme ignorance as to what it’s like to be in such a dark place. Oprah clarified she was talking suicide. At least that is how I heard it.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 8, 2021 2:08:39 GMT
The Firm is the Royal Family. Heard that explanation a couple days ago
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 8, 2021 2:09:53 GMT
Which ones...apart from her mother? She ended her first marriage after less than 2 years and she mailed her rings back to him. Not exactly a successful result there. There's more to her family than her two half siblings, she doesn't have relationships with any of her family - only her mother was at the wedding, one person from both sides of her family. Given that her half-sister is twice married and has an estranged relationship with her own mother, three adult children and her brother I'd stand by the the statement that Meghan is better at relationships than she is. Her half brother has also been twice married and arrested for multiple domestic violence incidents involving his current fiance. So, yes, by having a solid, loving relationship with her mother, Meghan is quite arguably better at relationships than these two. I have no idea what anyone is outraged at by Meghan mailing the rings back. IME, that shows a level of frustration at your partner not hearing how unhappy you are until you get to a point where you are just done. YMMV. They were together for at least 10 years total IIRC and getting married can absolutely change the behaviour and expectations in a relationship. I've known more than one relationship to fall apart once married and almost always because the dude suddenly forgets how to use a hamper, washing machine or wipe a counter down now that he has a wife. Again, YMMV. Do we know that there is more family? I am sure the press would have tracked them down at the time of the wedding. Some families are small.
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Post by sideways on Mar 8, 2021 2:10:12 GMT
She didn’t say she wanted to commit suicide. She said she was having dark thoughts and felt she didn’t want to be alive anymore and it scared her. Your comment shows extreme ignorance as to what it’s like to be in such a dark place. Oprah clarified she was talking suicide. At least that is how I heard it. And she said it scared her and she shouldn’t be left alone. Does that sound like someone who truly wanted to die?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 8, 2021 2:12:02 GMT
Awww she’s gonna have a baby girl! Due in the summer. That’s the best thing to come out of this interview.LOL
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 8, 2021 2:14:23 GMT
Oprah clarified she was talking suicide. At least that is how I heard it. And she said it scared her and she shouldn’t be left alone. Does that sound like someone who truly wanted to die? I believe you can be suicidal and not want to be left alone, scared they may have dark thoughts and act on them. 🤷♀️
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Post by quiltz on Mar 8, 2021 2:18:43 GMT
Awww she’s gonna have a baby girl! Due in the summer. That’s the best thing to come out of this interview.LOL YES --- and there goes a lot of money for the bookmakers in the UK/Vegas etc to bet on the gender (hopefully this is the correct wording) of their child. AND The Canadian Government provided them with security, RCMP were providing security while they were in Canada, round the clock. The Canadian taxpayers paid the tab. Who goes into a "job" / high profile family, the Royal Family without doing ANY research about what it is, the history and the customs and what is expected of you? Doesn't matter that she was an American, she still could have done some due diligence.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 2:22:33 GMT
She was pregnant with Archie, but wanted to commit suicide?! I mean I would have half way of believed it if she said after Archie was born. She didn’t say she wanted to commit suicide. She said she was having dark thoughts and felt she didn’t want to be alive anymore and it scared her. Your comment shows extreme ignorance as to what it’s like to be in such a dark place. She certainly did say that. Oprah specifically asked her that. I didn’t mean she wasn’t in a dark place . Gad
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 8, 2021 2:23:50 GMT
She didn’t say she wanted to commit suicide. She said she was having dark thoughts and felt she didn’t want to be alive anymore and it scared her. Your comment shows extreme ignorance as to what it’s like to be in such a dark place. She certainly did say that. Oprah specifically asked her that. I didn’t mean she wasn’t in a dark place . Gad Yep - I cosign this.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 2:24:17 GMT
The Firm is the Royal Family. Heard that explanation a couple days ago Yes, but who specifically is telling them these things? Who is all included in these conversations?
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Post by lisae on Mar 8, 2021 2:24:23 GMT
My tv signal has gotten bad on this 2nd half so I'm going to have to watch the 2nd half tomorrow. I did hear that the baby is a girl.
So far I believe Meghan. I'm not the least bit surprised that someone in the royal family wondered how dark Archie's skin color would be. Were there multiple 'conversations' as Meghan implied or was there just an off the cuff comment? I don't know, but it is telling that they did not make Archie a prince if that is the protocol. It's unlikely he will become king but he is still in the line of succession.
I can see how she felt trapped. I also believe that Harry is very sensitive to this because he sees a similar situation to what happened to his mother and he isn't wrong.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 8, 2021 2:26:20 GMT
The “royal family” like is that everyone? Or Specific people?
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