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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 20:40:08 GMT
" Long’s church is part of a group in the SBC called Founders Ministries that has pushed the convention in a more conservative direction in recent years. The group has described “white fragility” as “racism” and called critical race theory “godless and materialistic ideologies.”.. Josh Buice, the Georgia-based founder of G3 Ministries and part of a group that opposes social-justice efforts, said that he is not concerned with that movement’s connections to Crabapple and Long or how the movement’s rhetoric might be used in the future to foment further violence.... “One of the things that is difficult about White evangelical Christian churches and spaces is that they struggle to talk about race and racism in any meaningful way and create conditions in which racism and white supremacy can sadly flourish,” said Chang, campus minister at Wheaton College, and evangelical school outside Chicago. Chang said people of color within White evangelical spaces who try to help on issues of race are often silenced or pushed out, or they burn out. “A lot of people wouldn’t be surprised that he came out of an SBC church,” Chang said. “They need to wrestle with whether they had a part systemically in the long chain of discipleship in producing someone that could do something like this.”"www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2021/03/17/atlanta-shooting-southern-baptist-pastors-wrestle/Racism AND sexism is my contention. Hatred of women - seeing them as the downfall of humanity. Being told they are responsible for "leading men astry". Mix in, racism/China virus crap. Mix in sexual shame and twisted-thinking on normal human sexuality.... You can get a potent and toxic brew in the minds of young emotionally-stunted men. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 17, 2021 21:02:13 GMT
Who radicalized him. Where were his parents. How is his broken community responsible for him. Do white people have a cultural issue. Why don’t white people value human life. I will just wait over here for the questions to be asked. Meanwhile I will get cute photos of him, I will hear him called a kid, I will hear how really I am responsible as a coastal elite for creating him, or how immigration policies are to blame. Dude’s dad is a YOUTH PASTOR. It’s yet another one of those “the call is coming from inside the house” situations. Ugh. |
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Post by busy on Mar 17, 2021 21:02:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 21:08:53 GMT
I’ve had many really bad days. I’ve yet to murder anyone. And I’m completely creeped out by the beard! This is why I immediately shudder when I see the “what do you think about facial hair on men?” threads. I know there are many styles of facial hair, but this is what always comes to mind! Ew. (My apologies to men with great trimmed beards.) I feel I can almost draw a picture of these guys before even seeing a picture every time. Their beard always looks like they transplanted their pubes to their chin. Gross but accurate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 22:54:59 GMT
They took sermons offline, but they're cached. Listen to the subtext for example in any sermon - misogyny and patriarchy - like in the one on "Men and Women".... "Don't improve on things..." "Don't change...." "We're not like the world".... "We're a SPECIAL people...." (Cuz God plays favorites, dontcha know). "Who made the rules? Dad did." (not Dad & MOM, mind). "MEN should pray..as the LEADERS...I know our society BRISTLES at this....there Paul FORBIDS women to speak....The point? Women are not permitted to pray and lead in the PUBLIC gathering of the church....this is NOT INEQUALITY....I'm glad that my wife is not a man...MEN are spiritual LEADERS...." September 20, 2020 The Local Church: Men & Women - 1 Timothy 2:8-15 "Radical feminism...Gender neutrality....Gender whatever you want...This is a blatant guidance of Satan to usurp God (I thought God was all-powerful)....God isn't concerned about pronouns...Who would deny that? Satan does...The world reads this and says 'Boy, how opressive and abusive and chauvanistic and misogynistic is God'...Paul says 'Let a woman learn quietly'...The world tells us Paul was oppressive....(Um, yes)...." Yada yada yada webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7OAB5fO7I4YJ:https://www.crabapplefbc.org/sermon-archive/category/1%2BTimothy+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us |
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Post by flanz on Mar 17, 2021 23:47:50 GMT
Dh and I were in bed this morning with the news on. I was on my iPad, half listening but heard "he was taken into custody without incident." I said "white, huh?" and dh said "yep." So deplorably predictable. All of it. A bad day?  FFS! |
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Post by flanz on Mar 18, 2021 0:05:23 GMT
Dh and I were in bed this morning with the news on. I was on my iPad, half listening but heard "he was taken into custody without incident." I said "white, huh?" and dh said "yep." My partner texted me this story last night. I said I bet he was white...sure enough. When will white America wake up and realize that it's white people we need to fear. Well, "we white people" don't have much to fear from these racist terrorists personally. There is nothing surprising about this story and that is so very EFFed up... what we have come to. We were never an anti-racist society but these haters and crazies have been so very emboldened. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 18, 2021 0:07:12 GMT
He had a really bad day. Wtf. I am so sick of blaming the victim. He had a problem not the women. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions.
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 1:33:59 GMT
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 1:41:24 GMT
I’m a 36 yr old woman who could easily be described as “of average intelligence”....back in 2017 when I was warning everyone the danger of viewing white men as harmless and Black men as monsters who deserve to be shot dead, I did not have a crystal ball. Listen to Black women. Trust Black women. We saw this shit coming.
Over policing Black people means those who have the biggest propensity for violence are free to move about the cabin y’all.
They are taken alive and fed Burger King because they are among friends in police custody.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 1:58:49 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 18, 2021 2:29:33 GMT
I couldn't read what was on 'his' shirts beyond Covid 19.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 18, 2021 11:19:27 GMT
Thanks. That's why I posted the close up. The Deputy who spoke was ...a guy named (Phillips wrong name).. the whole sheriff's dept may have some issues!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 16:41:07 GMT
God and guns. Dangerous in the Middle East. Dangerous in Middle America.
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Post by flanz on Mar 18, 2021 16:41:33 GMT
I’m a 36 yr old woman who could easily be described as “of average intelligence”....back in 2017 when I was warning everyone the danger of viewing white men as harmless and Black men as monsters who deserve to be shot dead, I did not have a crystal ball. Listen to Black women. Trust Black women. We saw this shit coming. Over policing Black people means those who have the biggest propensity for violence are free to move about the cabin y’all. They are taken alive and fed Burger King because they are among friends in police custody. Thank you, Olan. I'm listening and I'm trusting what I hear from Black women. Absolutely! |
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 22:08:51 GMT
I’m a 36 yr old woman who could easily be described as “of average intelligence”....back in 2017 when I was warning everyone the danger of viewing white men as harmless and Black men as monsters who deserve to be shot dead, I did not have a crystal ball. Listen to Black women. Trust Black women. We saw this shit coming. Over policing Black people means those who have the biggest propensity for violence are free to move about the cabin y’all. They are taken alive and fed Burger King because they are among friends in police custody. Thank you, Olan. I'm listening and I'm trusting what I hear from Black women. Absolutely! I’ve been accused of having an ego/savior complex so I find it necessary to say Olan does not have to be the Black woman’s voice you listen to. There are tons of activists who will explain it better or hell even provide a stronger call to action. I think the goal is just that we stop ignoring issues because it might require actionable change. |
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Post by pallavi83 on Mar 18, 2021 22:15:02 GMT
They are trying to figure out the motive is such bs!!! Ugh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 3:50:46 GMT
"If Long is telling the truth about his desire to “eliminate” the “temptations”—that is, women—that he claims exacerbated his “sex addiction,” it’s likely that he learned to think of himself this way, and to objectify women, in church. In evangelical institutional environments such as churches and Christian schools, discussions of sex are usually steeped in purity culture, that is a complex of beliefs and practices associated with an unhealthy fear of sexuality and intense pressure to remain “pure”—that is, sexually inexperienced—before marriage. I am among the many ex-evangelicals who were essentially coerced into signing “purity pledges” in the 1990s, which is just one of the many manipulative practices associated with purity culture.... The flip side of more secular rape culture, purity culture teaches boys that they are “lust monsters” and girls that it’s their duty to protect their purity by being “modest.” In evangelical culture, youth pastors are among the primary purveyors of these messages, and thus key figures in socializing white evangelical youth in evangelicalism’s version of toxic masculinity. As a result, victims of child sex abuse and of sexual assault in evangelical communities are often blamed for “tempting” the perpetrators, while the latter, particularly if they’re white men with an important role in the church, are protected from what should be the full consequences of their crimes.... Bergeron told RD, “White supremacy holds Asians in a weird light, complimenting them on being the ‘good minority,’ while also devaluing women into sex objects who exist for their pleasure.” Describing her own experience, she recalled, “As an adult in the SBC, I saw this fetish and devaluation from white men who thought I should have sex with them because as an Asian, I was a geisha (which they take to mean ‘sex worker’), and so it’s not really cheating or adultery for them.” " religiondispatches.org/dont-discount-evangelicalism-as-a-factor-in-racist-murder-of-asian-spa-workers-in-georgia/ |
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Post by flanz on Mar 19, 2021 5:03:06 GMT
Thank you, Olan. I'm listening and I'm trusting what I hear from Black women. Absolutely! I’ve been accused of having an ego/savior complex so I find it necessary to say Olan does not have to be the Black woman’s voice you listen to. There are tons of activists who will explain it better or hell even provide a stronger call to action. I think the goal is just that we stop ignoring issues because it might require actionable change. I listen to many black voices and am happy to include yours in those I learn from. Thank you. |
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Post by hookturnian on Mar 19, 2021 8:12:40 GMT
"If Long is telling the truth about his desire to “eliminate” the “temptations”—that is, women—that he claims exacerbated his “sex addiction,” it’s likely that he learned to think of himself this way, and to objectify women, in church. In evangelical institutional environments such as churches and Christian schools, discussions of sex are usually steeped in purity culture, that is a complex of beliefs and practices associated with an unhealthy fear of sexuality and intense pressure to remain “pure”—that is, sexually inexperienced—before marriage. I am among the many ex-evangelicals who were essentially coerced into signing “purity pledges” in the 1990s, which is just one of the many manipulative practices associated with purity culture.... The flip side of more secular rape culture, purity culture teaches boys that they are “lust monsters” and girls that it’s their duty to protect their purity by being “modest.” In evangelical culture, youth pastors are among the primary purveyors of these messages, and thus key figures in socializing white evangelical youth in evangelicalism’s version of toxic masculinity. As a result, victims of child sex abuse and of sexual assault in evangelical communities are often blamed for “tempting” the perpetrators, while the latter, particularly if they’re white men with an important role in the church, are protected from what should be the full consequences of their crimes.... Bergeron told RD, “White supremacy holds Asians in a weird light, complimenting them on being the ‘good minority,’ while also devaluing women into sex objects who exist for their pleasure.” Describing her own experience, she recalled, “As an adult in the SBC, I saw this fetish and devaluation from white men who thought I should have sex with them because as an Asian, I was a geisha (which they take to mean ‘sex worker’), and so it’s not really cheating or adultery for them.” " religiondispatches.org/dont-discount-evangelicalism-as-a-factor-in-racist-murder-of-asian-spa-workers-in-georgia/So he subscribes to radical Christian fundamentalist ideology and his crime is radical Christian fundamentalist terrorism. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 19, 2021 8:24:01 GMT
Sexual addiction? He'll get all the sex he wants, and more in prison.
What a piece of shit. 8 blameless people have been slaughtered by this nobody.
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Post by scorpeao on Mar 19, 2021 14:43:50 GMT
My partner texted me this story last night. I said I bet he was white...sure enough. When will white America wake up and realize that it's white people we need to fear. Well, "we white people" don't have much to fear from these racist terrorists personally. There is nothing surprising about this story and that is so very EFFed up... what we have come to. We were never an anti-racist society but these haters and crazies have been so very emboldened. I don't know....the Las Vegas shooter was a home grown terrorist. He targeted a country concert. Sounds about white |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 14:53:52 GMT
White people should be scared too. Unless you are at a Waffle House dining with James Shaw Jr. everyone is at risk of being the victim of enraged white men.
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Post by pancakes on Mar 19, 2021 16:02:23 GMT
I know Facebook is a bastion for the most horrible people in humanity, but I can’t believe how many people are saying they don’t care in comments about this current event. It’s one thing to say All Lives Matter (which is BS, in itself). But to say, who cares about these women is unreal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 16:06:47 GMT
but I can’t believe how many people are saying they don’t care in comments about this current event WHAT!?!??!?!?!? What a great way to identify the people with horrible beliefs. I hope their words come back to haunt them and teach them just how horrible their ideas are. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 19, 2021 19:16:46 GMT
What do we expect from some of them? NOTHING!
They had a chance to take a stand when Kraft was caught on video in a compromised situation in a Florida massage parlor.
Oh, they did! It was all ok with them!
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Post by Zee on Mar 19, 2021 19:22:28 GMT
Asian women have long been objectified as sex objects who are expected to be submissive while Asian men are pretty much de-sexed, seen as less manly than other races, etc.
Purity culture disgusts me. I also don't care for the idea of Asian massage parlors where the women working there are seen as sex workers, jokes about Happy Endings, etc. Maybe they need to earn a living too but I hate these stereotypes.
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