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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 14:54:07 GMT
...her past "The hiring of Alexi McCammond, who was supposed to start at the Condé Nast publication next week, drew complaints because of racist and homophobic tweets she had posted a decade ago.... Ms. McCammond, 27, established herself as a prominent political reporter last year. She covered President Biden’s campaign for Axios and was a contributor to MSNBC and NBC. In 2019, she was named the emerging journalist of the year by the National Association of Black Journalists. She would have been the third Black woman to serve as Teen Vogue’s top editor, after Lindsay Peoples Wagner and Elaine Welteroth. Her job status became shaky days after Condé Nast named her to the position, when the offensive tweets she had posted as a teenager in 2011 resurfaced. They included comments on the appearance of Asian features, derogatory stereotypes about Asians and slurs for gay people. Ms. McCammond had apologized for the tweets in 2019 and deleted them. Screenshots of the tweets were recirculated on social media after her hiring at Teen Vogue was announced on March 5.... Ms. McCammond had been vetted before Condé Nast hired her, and top executives including Mr. Lynch and Anna Wintour, the chief content officer and the global editorial director of Vogue, were aware of the decade-old racist tweets, Mr. Duncan said in his note on Thursday, and Ms. McCammond acknowledged them in interviews with the company. Ms. Wintour discussed the tweets with leaders of color at Condé Nast before the job was offered, according to a company executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a personnel issue. Ms. McCammond struck Condé Nast leaders as an impressive candidate, the executive said, and they felt her 2019 apology showed that she had learned from her mistakes. Although the company was aware of the racist tweets, it did not know about the homophobic tweets or a photo, also from 2011, that was recently published by a right-wing website showing her in Native American costume at a Halloween party, the executive said. The vetting process did not turn up the additional material because it had been deleted, the executive added."  www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/business/media/teen-vogue-editor-alexi-mccammond.htmlhttp://instagram.com/p/CMIKWZegh4n I have mixed feelings. On the one hand she was very young when she posted these - 19. On the other, it does seem she somewhat downplayed the seriousness of what she posted back then when she apologized in 2019. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 14:58:24 GMT
They are having a rough year career wise. Her partner is the press aide that was fired for threatening the reporter.
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Post by pancakes on Mar 19, 2021 15:27:28 GMT
As an ex-magazine editor, I truly don’t get how a 27-year-old political reporter even got the job.
I also don’t think her “apology” is adequate. It’s not much of one at all and is mostly saying sorry my past tweets are overshadowing how great I think I am.
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Post by belgravia on Mar 19, 2021 15:29:04 GMT
People need to learn that their actions have consequences. Often, that’s a tough lesson to learn 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 15:43:42 GMT
People need to learn that their actions have consequences I think for a long time in America, your actions might NOT have consequences if you were white, wealthy, well-connected, etc. But yes, I think those days are FINALLY STARTING to come to a close. Call it cancel-culture. Call it ACCOUNTABILITY. Call it consequences... We are finding that you can't rape women and get away with it as easily. You can't make threats and get away with them as easily anymore. You can't act in racist ways and get away with it as easily anymore. It's not a done deal. But it's getting better. Video cameras everywhere and electronic "receipts" are helping people SEE for THEMSELVES what some people have had to live with for GENERATIONS in terms of assaults, harms, threats, fear, violence etc. |
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Post by pinklady on Mar 19, 2021 15:46:15 GMT
People need to learn that their actions have consequences. Often, that’s a tough lesson to learn 🤷🏼♀️  I'm having a really hard time feeling sorry for someone who posted racists thoughts on the internet. It is wrong and inexcusable today just as it was 10 years ago. That coupled with the fact that her boyfriend is the Biden Admin worker who threatened to ruin a reporter because she was writing a story on their relationship makes me think she isn't very bright and still has the same bad judgement she had a decade ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 15:50:21 GMT
I do feel bad for her because people can and do change, especially from whom they were as a teen. This was a good opportunity for her to use this as an educational tool, but then she also had quite a few years to do that before being called out on it. Also, it wasn’t just racist tweets: Saying her past anti-Asian and homophobic tweets have overshadowed her work, Alexi McCammond said Thursday that she and publisher Conde Nast have decided to part ways at Teen Vogue. abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/alexi-mccammond-parts-ways-teen-vogue-past-tweets-76541291 |
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Post by julie5 on Mar 19, 2021 15:57:16 GMT
I agree with you in that she was a student when she posted these things. I am 43 now and I can say that I would be horrified if I were held to task over my words over 2 decades ago. But the internet didn’t exist in the same capacity back then (I’m sure it existed but I certainly didn’t know about it).
But on the flip side the internet never forgets amd her apology didn’t seem like enough.
My 19 yo isn’t on social media at all and I’m kind of glad. She’s the one most likely to have a career that doesn’t leave room for internet comments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 16:02:10 GMT
Also, it wasn’t just racist tweets: Yes, the homophobic tweets are mentioned in the NYT article quoted above too. |
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Post by janeliz on Mar 19, 2021 16:16:13 GMT
I’m on Twitter, so I know what a hellscape it can be. She is one of many lately who are facing consequences for these kind of tweets, though, and I’m taken aback by it every time. It’s ok to just shut the fuck up now and then and keep your disgusting thoughts inside your head, folks. You’re not funny, interesting, or clever.
I do agree with a previous poster that this was an odd hiring choice to begin with. Her age alone...for editor-in-chief??
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Post by iowgirl on Mar 19, 2021 16:27:16 GMT
People need to learn that their actions have consequences. Often, that’s a tough lesson to learn What I thought and said when I was 19 is vastly different than what I though and said when I was 27, and again still different than what I say now in my mid 50's. We grow. We learn. Life is a journey. Not everyone will have the same thoughts and options. Some are racists and homophobic all their lives. When I was young as a teenager in high school, I though homosexuals were something to be made fun of and not anything that could be accepted. Transgender? That would have been just off the charts. Do I think or feel like that now? Absolutely not. In no way. I have grown emotionally and have life experience now. I recoil at how I thought about those things. I regret if I ever said something to someone unknowingly, that hurt them. That would give me deep regrets. I can't go back and un-say these things. If I knew I hurt them, I would apologize. I'm having a really hard time feeling sorry for someone who posted racists thoughts on the internet. It is wrong and inexcusable today just as it was 10 years ago. I thank my lucky stars that there was no internet. It would be so dang easy to post absolutely stupid things when you are young. I see it now. I know that some of these kids have deep regret for what they posted as they get older. They apologize, but people still rail on them about it. What do they need to do? Cut off a limb? |
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Post by amom23 on Mar 19, 2021 16:37:26 GMT
I think all of us old farts on this board better be thanking our lucky stars there wasn't an internet around when we were teenagers. My 17 year old self is a far cry from who I am today at 52.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 18:12:45 GMT
They apologize, but people still rail on them about it. What do they need to do? Cut off a limb? Did you read the instagram? Not cut off a limb. Call racism, "racism", not "insensitivity" - that's a start. My 17 year old self is a far cry from who I am today at 52. “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.” - Maya Angelou Of course we're mostly stupider when we're younger. The point in this case, I believe, is that she had from 2011 (racist remarks made) to 2019 to address her racism - and then again as she was being considered for the Teen Vogue job. |
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Post by Olan on Mar 19, 2021 18:19:00 GMT
They apologize, but people still rail on them about it. What do they need to do? Cut off a limb? Did you read the instagram? Not cut off a limb. Call racism, "racism", not "insensitivity" - that's a start. My 17 year old self is a far cry from who I am today at 52. “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.” - Maya Angelou Of course we're mostly stupider when we're younger. The point in this case, I believe, is that she had from 2011 (racist remarks made) to 2019 to address her racism - and then again as she was being considered for the Teen Vogue job. My 17 yr old self didn’t care about race relations and I’ve made dumb decisions but I’ve always always had a soft spot for the underdog. I think your character is pretty developed by your teenage years even with that lacking frontal lobe. And like pinklady said her choice of partner shows her decision making a decade ago is pretty in line |
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Post by flanz on Mar 19, 2021 22:56:26 GMT
They are having a rough year career wise. Her partner is the press aide that was fired for threatening the reporter. hmm.... i didn't know. thanks! I'm glad Alexi McCammond was called out for her racism and homophobia, that there are consequences. As far as her age for being considered as an editor... doesn't it make sense to have someone pretty young editing TEEN Vogue? |
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Post by pancakes on Mar 20, 2021 0:37:37 GMT
They are having a rough year career wise. Her partner is the press aide that was fired for threatening the reporter. hmm.... i didn't know. thanks! I'm glad Alexi McCammond was called out for her racism and homophobia, that there are consequences. As far as her age for being considered as an editor... doesn't it make sense to have someone pretty young editing TEEN Vogue? Not at all. To run a magazine, you need experience and business sense. I can think of few people her age that would qualify. And you definitely don’t go from reporter to EIC. The progression should be (roughly) reporter to editor (various levels) to managing editor and/or executive editor to EIC. You simply haven’t had the experience necessary without actually holding roles with progressive responsibility. |
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Post by Really Red on Mar 20, 2021 0:50:54 GMT
I think all of us old farts on this board better be thanking our lucky stars there wasn't an internet around when we were teenagers. My 17 year old self is a far cry from who I am today at 52. Yes. 100% yes. But I still wouldn't have posted crap like that. I think this says FAR MORE about Conde Nast than it does about the editor. I really believe people can change and particularly from being a teenager. I raised my kids super liberal and very inclusive. Unfortunately, I am in the South. Their friends at school used a lot of this language. Kids want to fit in. I heard my daughter say "ghetto" one day and it made me sad. She had to listen to a long lecture from me. I am not sure she completely understood, but she did understand that words matter and it matters what we say. Today, at 24yo, she would be shocked at this stuff. I am not so certain that this editor was shocked at what she wrote. That's where the problem lies. |
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Post by nlwilkins on Mar 20, 2021 1:18:19 GMT
I've learned a lot about and grown a lot from the days of my teens (I'm 70 now). But even way back in the 50's we knew it was not kind to make fun of people, or to bully people, or to use derogatory slurs. We did not do it even in private between friends and family. If we did, we were called out on it immediately.
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I'm having a really hard time feeling sorry for someone who posted racists thoughts on the internet. It is wrong and inexcusable today just as it was 10 years ago. 
