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Post by christine58 on Apr 13, 2021 23:02:53 GMT
I think it’s so sad when reporting causes this type of reaction. The risk is so low. I have more risk of blood clots with my hormone meds but when I weigh other risks against the low occurrence of blood clots it’s better to take the meds. I know someone struggling with long term consequences from a mild case of Covid and I don’t know why anyone would risk Covid over 1/7 million blood clot. But these reactions HAVE to be reported. Let them take a look and hopefully it won’t be paused for long. |
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 14, 2021 0:28:40 GMT
thanks to those who posted info with sources, greatly appreciated! someone who knew i had the J&J vaccine was trying to tell me how dangerous it is now. umm, a .0004% risk of clot with the stroke is still way less than the 16% risk of clots with covid. i had covid, still got the shot. Had Covid twice. Still feel like shit most every day. I’m getting the shots because I don’t want to get it again. |
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Post by paigepea on Apr 14, 2021 0:30:27 GMT
I think it’s so sad when reporting causes this type of reaction. The risk is so low. I have more risk of blood clots with my hormone meds but when I weigh other risks against the low occurrence of blood clots it’s better to take the meds. I know someone struggling with long term consequences from a mild case of Covid and I don’t know why anyone would risk Covid over 1/7 million blood clot. But these reactions HAVE to be reported. Let them take a look and hopefully it won’t be paused for long. I mean news reporting. It scares people off. |
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 14, 2021 0:35:14 GMT
I was able to help my dd and her boyfriend get J&J this coming weekend and now they're paused. I was cursing that I woke up at 5 am and couldn't get back to sleep, but it was a blessing: I got them Pfizers, same date, same time just a little more of a drive away. I firmly believe that they'll find this was linked to something pre-existing. But it's also ammo for the anti-vaxxers and that makes me sad. I agree with all of this. Ods was supposed to get the j&j on Friday. I heard rumbling about a pause and got him his first of one of the others for sat |
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Post by used2scrap on Apr 14, 2021 1:20:23 GMT
I was able to help my dd and her boyfriend get J&J this coming weekend and now they're paused. I was cursing that I woke up at 5 am and couldn't get back to sleep, but it was a blessing: I got them Pfizers, same date, same time just a little more of a drive away. I firmly believe that they'll find this was linked to something pre-existing. But it's also ammo for the anti-vaxxers and that makes me sad. I agree with all of this. Ods was supposed to get the j&j on Friday. I heard rumbling about a pause and got him his first of one of the others for sat My ods was supposed to get J&J today; they did Pfizer instead (and messaged a few days ago about the switch). |
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Post by tentoes on Apr 14, 2021 3:14:19 GMT
Had Covid twice. Still feel like shit most every day. I’m getting the shots because I don’t want to get it again.
I'm so sorry!! I hope the shot goes well for you!! ((HUGS))
My granddaughter and her husband had Covid and they will both be getting the shot when it becomes available to them.
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Post by jackietex on Apr 14, 2021 3:25:14 GMT
Yes. That's the one I got and now I'm paranoid that my headaches (probably oak pollen related) are a symptom of a problem. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow so almost out of the precautionary period. I haven't felt 100% since the vaccine but it could be allergies...I just don't know. If we all end up having to get a Covid vaccination yearly, I've already decided I'm not doing it. I will just take the risk. To be fair I think one would know that something was seriously wrong and was not " normal" if one is affected and to seek medical help immediately. Key symptoms of concern include severe headaches or severe abdominal pains that don’t settle with painkillers. In some cases, there may also be vomiting, confusion, neurological deficits or seizures. These are not symptoms that anyone should ignore at any time and they are far more severe than what we have been told to expect. Tonight, on our local news, they said to watch for headaches. I have a headache from being annoyed that they didn't stress the "severe" part of that statement. |
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Post by miominmio on Apr 14, 2021 6:11:42 GMT
The side effects of the vaccine isn’t just blood clots, but a massive immune response that includes blood clots while at the same time affects the blood’s ability to clot. There has been 6 cases and 4 deaths in my country, despite the patients being treated by the National hospital. There are no other common denominators between the patients than the vaccine, and our experts say that they can see no other reason than the vaccine. (Report was published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, along with a report from German scientists). When the deaths happen in an age group that has a low risk of being seriously ill, the risk of the vaccine isn’t the same as it would be if the group had a much higher risk of dying from the virus. Right now, the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from the virus (provided you don’t have one of the serious pre-existing conditions). Until they find a way to identify those who have a higher risk, I’m very comfortable with the fact that they pause the vector vaccines here. I understand that it might be different in countries that have been Harder hit than we have.
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Post by miominmio on Apr 14, 2021 6:13:46 GMT
I think it’s so sad when reporting causes this type of reaction. The risk is so low. I have more risk of blood clots with my hormone meds but when I weigh other risks against the low occurrence of blood clots it’s better to take the meds. I know someone struggling with long term consequences from a mild case of Covid and I don’t know why anyone would risk Covid over 1/7 million blood clot. But it isn’t just blood clots, blood clots is just part of the picture. And the risk is far, far higher than 1/7 million. |
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Post by blue tulip on Apr 14, 2021 11:40:19 GMT
The side effects of the vaccine isn’t just blood clots, but a massive immune response that includes blood clots while at the same time affects the blood’s ability to clot. There has been 6 cases and 4 deaths in my country, despite the patients being treated by the National hospital. There are no other common denominators between the patients than the vaccine, and our experts say that they can see no other reason than the vaccine. (Report was published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, along with a report from German scientists). When the deaths happen in an age group that has a low risk of being seriously ill, the risk of the vaccine isn’t the same as it would be if the group had a much higher risk of dying from the virus. Right now, the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from the virus (provided you don’t have one of the serious pre-existing conditions). Until they find a way to identify those who have a higher risk, I’m very comfortable with the fact that they pause the vector vaccines here. I understand that it might be different in countries that have been Harder hit than we have. i don't see how this can be true. so 10 people out of how many millions that were vaccinated? Guarantee that more died of covid. I don't know what country you're in, but i would love to see your sources for this because i just can't fathom it being true. |
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Post by mayceesgranny on Apr 14, 2021 14:01:56 GMT
So frustrating - I got to work this morning and 3 co-workers were talking about vaccines and how they were glad they didn't get the shots and how they knew there was something bad in them. One of the women said about vaccines - "and they don't work anyway, cuz you still have to wear a mask after you get one!"
I left the room and had to come back to my desk just to deep breathe. I feel like I am surrounded by "the stupid". I am so glad I am vaccinated and that I continue to mask around these fools. There is no convincing some people!
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Post by miominmio on Apr 14, 2021 16:11:35 GMT
The side effects of the vaccine isn’t just blood clots, but a massive immune response that includes blood clots while at the same time affects the blood’s ability to clot. There has been 6 cases and 4 deaths in my country, despite the patients being treated by the National hospital. There are no other common denominators between the patients than the vaccine, and our experts say that they can see no other reason than the vaccine. (Report was published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, along with a report from German scientists). When the deaths happen in an age group that has a low risk of being seriously ill, the risk of the vaccine isn’t the same as it would be if the group had a much higher risk of dying from the virus. Right now, the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from the virus (provided you don’t have one of the serious pre-existing conditions). Until they find a way to identify those who have a higher risk, I’m very comfortable with the fact that they pause the vector vaccines here. I understand that it might be different in countries that have been Harder hit than we have. i don't see how this can be true. so 10 people out of how many millions that were vaccinated? Guarantee that more died of covid. I don't know what country you're in, but i would love to see your sources for this because i just can't fathom it being true. I’m not talking about your country, but mine. Do you think you’ll be able to read my sources? We vaccinated 120.000 people with a vector vaccine.....4 people died. We’ve had 706 people dying with or from covid, and in the age group we’re talking about (and I double checked the statistics now), We’ve had 6 deaths total from the virus, and four deaths this year from the vaccine. You can go to fhi.no yourself, or Norwegian newspapers. And I am sick and tired of Americans calling me a liar!!!! I will not respond to you anymore. |
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Post by blue tulip on Apr 14, 2021 18:46:53 GMT
i don't see how this can be true. so 10 people out of how many millions that were vaccinated? Guarantee that more died of covid. I don't know what country you're in, but i would love to see your sources for this because i just can't fathom it being true. I’m not talking about your country, but mine. Do you think you’ll be able to read my sources? We vaccinated 120.000 people with a vector vaccine.....4 people died. We’ve had 706 people dying with or from covid, and in the age group we’re talking about (and I double checked the statistics now), We’ve had 6 deaths total from the virus, and four deaths this year from the vaccine. You can go to fhi.no yourself, or Norwegian newspapers. And I am sick and tired of Americans calling me a liar!!!! I will not respond to you anymore. ok, well i guess i'll be talking to myself then. i know you're in a different country. i am curious to know more about all the country's vaccine experiences, as i'm not one of those americans who believes the world revolves around us. yes, i would've liked to read the sources. if the concern was that they were in a different language, i would've seen if i could run them thru an auto translator. i'm sorry you took my post as a direct insult to you, i was more so trying to say that i personally couldn't believe it and would like to see the sources to broaden my knowledge. |
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 14, 2021 20:16:30 GMT
The side effects of the vaccine isn’t just blood clots, but a massive immune response that includes blood clots while at the same time affects the blood’s ability to clot. There has been 6 cases and 4 deaths in my country, despite the patients being treated by the National hospital. There are no other common denominators between the patients than the vaccine, and our experts say that they can see no other reason than the vaccine. (Report was published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, along with a report from German scientists). When the deaths happen in an age group that has a low risk of being seriously ill, the risk of the vaccine isn’t the same as it would be if the group had a much higher risk of dying from the virus. Right now, the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from the virus (provided you don’t have one of the serious pre-existing conditions). Until they find a way to identify those who have a higher risk, I’m very comfortable with the fact that they pause the vector vaccines here. I understand that it might be different in countries that have been Harder hit than we have. I’m confused. I thought you were in Norway and I thought most of Europe was using the Astra Zeneca vaccine? We’re talking about the J&J one. Aren’t they 2 different vaccines? I know Astra Zeneca had problems with blood clotting, but it hasn’t been approved in the US yet. |
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Post by paigepea on Apr 14, 2021 20:21:27 GMT
The side effects of the vaccine isn’t just blood clots, but a massive immune response that includes blood clots while at the same time affects the blood’s ability to clot. There has been 6 cases and 4 deaths in my country, despite the patients being treated by the National hospital. There are no other common denominators between the patients than the vaccine, and our experts say that they can see no other reason than the vaccine. (Report was published last week in The New England Journal of Medicine, along with a report from German scientists). When the deaths happen in an age group that has a low risk of being seriously ill, the risk of the vaccine isn’t the same as it would be if the group had a much higher risk of dying from the virus. Right now, the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from the virus (provided you don’t have one of the serious pre-existing conditions). Until they find a way to identify those who have a higher risk, I’m very comfortable with the fact that they pause the vector vaccines here. I understand that it might be different in countries that have been Harder hit than we have. I’m confused. I thought you were in Norway and I thought most of Europe was using the Astra Zeneca vaccine? We’re talking about the J&J one. Aren’t they 2 different vaccines? I know Astra Zeneca had problems with blood clotting, but it hasn’t been approved in the US yet. The two vaccines use the same technology so they’re similar. The other two use a different (newer) technology for making vaccines. I just read an article in the paper that cited a UK study comparing the pfizer results to the AZ results and the AZ won because it did more then just create antibodies, it also does something with T cells that fights the infection. To be honest I might be wrong on the details as I just scanned it. I did notice they only tested like 160 some odd people who had received their first dose. All of the other vaccines we’ve ever taken use the same technology as AZ. |
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