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Post by hopemax on May 4, 2021 19:22:55 GMT
FYI, the spike protein used in the vaccine is different than the spike protein that causes damage from an infection. Apparently, the spike protein in SARS-CoV-2 changes configuration as part of it's process. It starts out as the stubby thing we see on the pictures, but then it morphs into a long, point to force its way into cells and do its damage. Geneticists figured out how to stabilize the spike protein from morphing and it's this ability that makes the vaccine work. They were working on this sort of thing with other viruses, but SARS-CoV-2 gave them the opportunity to achieve it. This is a very long article that explains what happen, if someone is interested. But there are already a lot of conspiracy theories about how the vaccine is unsafe "because of the spike protein" since the study came about how much damage the spike protein does if you get COVID-19. On another forum, I described it as the Bruce Banner vs Hulk version. The vaccine is the Bruce Banner version. I just wouldn't want people to make assumptions about the spike protein when it might be a drug interaction, any possibility of an actual COVID infection (it does happen when people are partially vaccinated or a breakthrough) or just a coincidence. jeremysgirl should definitely involve her medical team, because these are the types of things that do need to be reported to VAERS, and why it exists. cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/tiny-tweak-behind-COVID-19/98/i38
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Post by gar on May 4, 2021 19:39:09 GMT
I wish I could add something useful for you...I do hope you can get some help and get back to feeling good again ((hugs))
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Post by quinlove on May 4, 2021 19:39:58 GMT
Oh no. ((( jeremysgirl ))) I am very confident that you will figure this out. You are our hero here. In the mean time, my heart is breaking for you. All I can do is send hugs and love to you. ❤️
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Post by used2scrap on May 4, 2021 19:49:19 GMT
I’m sorry you are going through this. I hope you find some relief soon.
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Post by tinydogmafia on May 4, 2021 19:53:04 GMT
jeremysgirl Your openness is allowing me to share, although I am quite terrified to do so, as I have never shared my diagnosis with almost anyone, let alone publicly. I am diagnosed Schizoaffective Disorder Bipolar Type. I have been stable for a long time now, my meds had not been adjusted in probably a solid 18 months. (I am on 7 meds, plus my emergency meds.) I had my second shot of Pfizer, and I was not right almost immediately. I felt very spacy at first, like I had been over medicated. So much so that I actually opened my pill boxes and counted out each pill, it was that bad the first night. The following morning I woke up in such a low, out of nowhere, that I could not get out of bed. Cue the anxiety, and then the auditory hallucinations. Out of absolutely nowhere. I can usually feel the psychosis coming. Nothing. No indication whatsoever. It was almost as if I just suddenly had stopped my medications. This was coupled with a migraine, and again, I had no warning, no aura like I would normally get. Needless to say that I had to call my Psychiatrist, and have my meds adjusted. I explained to him that all of my symptoms came on out of nowhere following the vaccine. He took it very seriously as I am very stable, medication compliant, as a nurse I work 50+ hours a week without issue on a regular basis. He was so concerned that he wanted me in the ER if I wasn't better ASAP. I'm sharing all of this so you know you are NOT alone. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has happened to you. I am so sorry you that are feeling this way. I get it. I was terrified I was going to have to go inpatient because the psychosis was so intense, and so overwhelming. I'm thinking of you. Please hang in there and please let the doctor know, because these side effects need to be reported. And I thank you for your openness, you have a allowed me to be brave with this post, and I'm not sure you understand how much your sharing and communicating here has helped so many. xo
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2021 20:04:20 GMT
I am diagnosed Schizoaffective Disorder Bipolar Type. I felt very spacy at first, like I had been over medicated. I can usually feel the psychosis coming. Nothing. No indication whatsoever. All these things, I am exactly the same. I'm sharing all of this so you know you are NOT alone. I don't think it's a coincidence that this has happened to you. I am so sorry you that are feeling this way. I get it. I was terrified I was going to have to go inpatient because the psychosis was so intense, and so overwhelming. I'm thinking of you. Please hang in there and please let the doctor know, because these side effects need to be reported. Thank you for sharing. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Like I said, I can usually feel the effectiveness of my medication starting to decline and with this it's like having no medication at all. And to everyone who has reached out to me in PMs, I appreciate your concern for my well-being. It is true that 3.5 weeks ago, my son attempted suicide. But he is home now and doing well. He has revealed something that is causing the repeated suicide attempts and he is now in counseling to deal with that. I feel so relieved. Really, I feel in a very good place with that. I have been dealing with bipolar for 19 years now. I can assure you, what's happening with me right now is not emotional. It is not caused by stress. It is very physical and I feel as though I have lost any benefit I was receiving from my medication. I have been through some really tough times with my kids, that is true. This is not about them right now.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 4, 2021 20:33:23 GMT
The only notable thing about her medical history was that the woman, who declined to be interviewed but allowed Dr. Goueli to describe her case, had become infected with the coronavirus in the spring. She had experienced only mild physical symptoms from the virus, but, months later, she heard a voice that first told her to kill herself and then told her to kill her children. A small number of Covid patients who had never experienced mental health problems are developing severe psychotic symptoms weeks after contracting the coronavirus... I am asking, I have no knowledge about it at all. jeremysgirl BUT Is there any possibility that you had Covid with little or no symptoms?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 4, 2021 20:36:22 GMT
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2021 20:39:18 GMT
The only notable thing about her medical history was that the woman, who declined to be interviewed but allowed Dr. Goueli to describe her case, had become infected with the coronavirus in the spring. She had experienced only mild physical symptoms from the virus, but, months later, she heard a voice that first told her to kill herself and then told her to kill her children. A small number of Covid patients who had never experienced mental health problems are developing severe psychotic symptoms weeks after contracting the coronavirus... I am asking, I have no knowledge about it at all. jeremysgirl BUT Is there any possibility that you had Covid with little or no symptoms? I guess that is possible but I haven't been doing anything risky to contract it. The worst I've done is stay in a hotel room on a drive down to Alabama. Even while I was on vacation I didn't eat out at restaurants and I basically stayed in the condo or on the beach. I work from home. And no one around me has been sick. I would be completely surprised if I actually had covid and didn't know it. I have more than one risk factor too. So I think if I did contract it it would have been worse for me and I can't imagine it would have been mild enough not to know. But it's a possibility.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 20:43:17 GMT
You know I’m bipolar also. The vaccine had no effect on me. I was stable before and still stable. Same. Bipolar and no mental health changes since the vaccine.
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Post by Merge on May 4, 2021 20:56:24 GMT
My oldest is bipolar and I have anxiety/depression. Neither of us had any negative mental health effects with the vaccine. Hope you feel better soon!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 4, 2021 20:58:41 GMT
FYI, the spike protein used in the vaccine is different than the spike protein that causes damage from an infection. Apparently, the spike protein in SARS-CoV-2 changes configuration as part of it's process. thanks for adding this information. I didn't read up very much on the vaccine development, so I didn't know that. But still- could the 'crossing the blood brain barrier' still happen with a vaccine molecule, even if the spike protein is different? I'm just guessing... my actual science classes were all from a very long time ago.
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Post by flanz on May 4, 2021 21:00:38 GMT
I'm so sorry, sweet pea friend. (((( HUGS )))) I can completely believe that the vaccine has caused you to feel this way. I am someone who needs antidepressants to function in the world. I had Pfizer #two 13 days ago. After first dose I was an exhausted, totally foggy headed mess for the first day and exhausted the next two. It felt like I was trying to emerge, unsuccessfully, from anaesthesia. I almost think of it as violent brain fog... After my second dose, I have been very tired and headachy and feeling depressed - until yesterday. Part of those symptoms could be from my seasonal allergies as well, but yesterday marked a huge shift in my feelings of wellbeing. I hope you feel good again soon! xo tinydogmafia THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR SHARING! Love and appreciate you!
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Post by scrapngranny on May 4, 2021 21:06:21 GMT
Have you contacted your doctor? That would be my step. If anyone has heard of problems with the vaccine and meds it would be him.
I’m sorry you are struggling with this. I know how hard it is to balance your meds to the “perfect” spot, and how thrilling it is to get there. I struggle with anxiety and don’t know anything about bipolar to be helpful. I didn’t notice any difference in my meds after my vaccinations.
Take good care of yourself. Hugs
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Post by flanz on May 4, 2021 21:07:06 GMT
You know I’m bipolar also. The vaccine had no effect on me. I was stable before and still stable. Same. Bipolar and no mental health changes since the vaccine. Terrific! I do wonder if you all had the same vaccine....
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Post by hookturnian on May 4, 2021 21:09:32 GMT
I hope you feel better soon.
Is there somewhere (like a website or app) where you can report your side effects, even if you are unsure if they are vaccine related?
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Post by scrapmaven on May 4, 2021 21:53:46 GMT
You are very self aware. I say that all the time to you, but it's true. Good for you for calling your psych and scheduling an appointment. This very well could be a side effect of the shot or it could be something else. Either way, you're doing the absolute best thing for yourself. Your doctor will help you and you will find your balance. Relief is on the way. tinydogmafia, I respect you so much for having the courage to share your illness w/us. I think you're a strong woman who is also very self aware.
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Post by MissBianca on May 4, 2021 22:35:42 GMT
I’ve been battling with stimming (ADHD), lack of focus, and a restless leg syndrome flare up since my second shot but it is slowing getting better. How far out are you from your vaccine? This Friday will be 2 weeks. The stimming and the RLS started over this past weekend. I feel agitated and not comfortable in my own skin hence the stimmimg to calm my nerves. Im also not sleeping well which I think is compounding my issues.
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Post by kate on May 4, 2021 22:40:14 GMT
I'm so sorry that two of you are suffering after the vaccine. I have a friend who had (first-time) psychotic episodes after having covid. Hang in there, and I hope you find relief soon.
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Post by MissBianca on May 4, 2021 22:45:36 GMT
I’m asking 2 of my friends that struggle with health issues along with depression and anxiety. They both had their second shots around the same time as me. I’ve been battling with stimming (ADHD), lack of focus, and a restless leg syndrome flare up since my second shot but it is slowing getting better. Quoting myself but one friend is due to get her second vaccine tomorrow. The other friend said her anxiety is way up since the second shot but nothing I’m her realm of normal has changed. I did reach out to a third friend who has mental health issues as does her son, they have not had issues that they are aware of but they also have intensive therapy and meds so not sure if that’s helping them. They are also younger than me so I don’t know how that affects people.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 23:03:10 GMT
I hope you will be feeling better soon. Having suffered with depression and anxiety in the past, I am always afraid of the day my meds may stop working.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2021 23:13:12 GMT
I'm not sure if it's self awareness this time scrapmaven. It's so up in my face and I'm just tired from trying to handle it. I think that's why I posted today because if someone had just told me...wait it out...it'll be over in three weeks or something, I could just wait it out. But I'm just not even close to feeling alright right now.
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Post by flanz on May 5, 2021 0:01:33 GMT
I'm not sure if it's self awareness this time scrapmaven . It's so up in my face and I'm just tired from trying to handle it. I think that's why I posted today because if someone had just told me...wait it out...it'll be over in three weeks or something, I could just wait it out. But I'm just not even close to feeling alright right now. Is there anything I can do to help? Pay for dinner to be brought in tonight or tomorrow? (Don't know what time it is at your house...)
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Post by Legacy Girl on May 5, 2021 0:07:35 GMT
Depression and anxiety patient here. I have felt very spacey and have also had images of bizarre things pop into my head and play on an OCD-like loop. The image thing has never happened before. My second Pfizer vaccine was approximately four weeks ago. I chalked it up to stress, and maybe that's what it is, but it also crossed my mind that it could be vaccine related. Here's hoping you get some relief soon!
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 5, 2021 0:18:24 GMT
I'm not sure if it's self awareness this time scrapmaven . It's so up in my face and I'm just tired from trying to handle it. I think that's why I posted today because if someone had just told me...wait it out...it'll be over in three weeks or something, I could just wait it out. But I'm just not even close to feeling alright right now. Is there anything I can do to help? Pay for dinner to be brought in tonight or tomorrow? (Don't know what time it is at your house...) Thank you flanz but Jeremy is doing a pretty good job of taking care of me. At the very least he's being patient with me. He brought me a burger for dinner because I haven't felt like cooking since last Thursday night.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 5, 2021 0:21:47 GMT
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Post by twinks on May 5, 2021 1:06:21 GMT
My DD has some problems and after her first vaccine she had a total meltdown. She was screaming at the top of her lungs and just couldn’t get control of her emotions. This was about 10 days afterwards. She eventually got calmed down and more in control. She just had her second one today. Thanks everyone for posting. If anything, I am more aware and can help her better if it happens again.
I was just kind of spacey and so tired for about 10 days to 2 weeks after both vaccinations.
((( HUGS ))) to everyone suffering right now.
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Post by quinlove on May 5, 2021 1:38:20 GMT
((( tinydogmafia )))
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Post by Mystie on May 5, 2021 2:29:04 GMT
Hugs, hugs, hugs all around, tinydogmafia flanz Legacy Girl and jeremysgirl . I'm sure you're feeling worried. I hope your psych visit comes quickly and will be productive. Please come on back to talk whenever you need to.
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 5, 2021 3:50:50 GMT
No help here but just wanted to say hugs to all that are going through this. I really hope you can get relief and soon.
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