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Post by rgibson on May 13, 2021 20:05:09 GMT
She has and will do anything to be "famous". Is she still a victim or responsible for her own actions? She was 16 when she married a man almost old enough to be her grandfather. I have no problem with people marrying an older partner but she was 16! Again, I don't know these people at all, but I am going to guess that she didn't have the most supportive family life so I really wonder if she has the support she needs to overcome her earlier trauma. Hell, I read a bunch of replies here that gave Megan Markle a pass on not seeking out help for mental health issues and she is a lot older than this person. Megan also was one of the faces behind a mental health organization so she knew there was help out there. I do think Stodden is responsible for her actions, like I think everyone is, except under certain extenuating circumstances, but I also think she is a victim in this mess. I don't think it is a crime to be an attention seeker but I also think a lot of those seeking attention are really seeking help. |
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Post by peabay on May 13, 2021 20:07:30 GMT
I'm eating lunch in front of my computer so I read the article - I have no idea who these people are but I did find it pretty appalling that a bunch of supposed grown ups went after a 16 year old. The clip of Anderson Cooper pinging on Stodden was pretty horrible. Why was a grown-ass man protected in this scenario and a 16 year old left hanging??? Agreed. I don't remember this at all (I'm sure I must have been aware when it was happening, but my brain is too filled with other things to retain this) but I don't understand why people weren't all over the 50 year old? |
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Post by inkedup on May 13, 2021 20:19:32 GMT
I hadn't heard of this because I've never heard of Courtney Stodden and I actively avoid anything Chrissy Teagen. She's so freaking attention-seeking. If her name isn't trending on twitter for a hot second, she releases some ridiculous, over-sharing detail about her life or her sex with her husband or her favorite food in the third grade. It just screams of "look at me, look at me." I felt compassion for her during her losses and I appreciate that she speaks freely of her losses and her children which hopefully helps de-stigmatize it for other women, but otherwise, I'd be perfectly glad if we never heard anything about her ever again. I just don't understand how someone with her family, beauty, wealth, and influence can be so chronically insecure. She's the poster child for privilege, and while I don't fault her for her privilege, I fault her for squandering it. And though he's mega-talented, I disdain her husband by association. I totally agree. I only know who Chrissy Tiegen is because of her Twitter drama. I was really shocked at how mean people were when she and John lost their baby. You'd think she'd have issued a more genuine apology to Stodden after having been put through the wringer as a grieving mother. Courtney Stodden was a CHILD and the relationship between them and that creep they married seemed so wrong. Courtney always looked sad and unhappy, or high. I'm glad they're telling their story and I hope they are receiving the help they deserve. (Using "they" because Stodden identifies as non-binary.) |
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Post by Gennifer on May 13, 2021 20:20:56 GMT
I remember discussing Courtney and Doug here (or on 2Ps, depending on when it was) when they got married. And while some of the comments may have been directed at her, most of the negativity was toward Doug and Courtney’s mom.
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Post by refugeepea on May 13, 2021 21:05:38 GMT
Ugh. I'll never think of Christy Tiegan in the same way. It's not like I loved her, but eww. I don't want to hear from her again.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on May 13, 2021 21:36:25 GMT
I don't know much about Chrissy but she recently admitted to having a drinking problem, and that she is sober now. I wonder if that has something to do with some of her poor behavior in the past.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 21:40:38 GMT
I don't know much about Chrissy but she recently admitted to having a drinking problem, and that she is sober now. I wonder if that has something to do with some of her poor behavior in the past. I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 22:15:56 GMT
I don't know much about Chrissy but she recently admitted to having a drinking problem, and that she is sober now. I wonder if that has something to do with some of her poor behavior in the past. I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. ^^^ this 100%. My dh's mom has a bad drinking problem and the alcohol just makes her poor attitude and behaviors worse. She is a vile human being. Alcohol didn't make her that way, it just aids in her nastiness. |
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Post by deekaye on May 13, 2021 22:52:38 GMT
Courtney Stodden is still gross. In my opinion she is still the same attention/fame seeking moron she was 10 years ago. In 2020 she started "dating" Brian Austin Green (20+ yrs older than her) after his split from Megan Fox. She has and will do anything to be "famous". Is she still a victim or responsible for her own actions? You may think that she is still the same attention/fame seeking moron that she was 10 years ago, but 10 years ago she was a CHILD. I don't care (nor do I know) what she is doing now, she may indeed be "gross" but what kind of person encourages a CHILD to kill themselves, tells them that are ugly, etc. Teigan should be ashamed. (As should the parents who allowed a marriage to a predatory 51 year old but that's a different story). |
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Post by Lexica on May 14, 2021 0:20:05 GMT
Agreed. I don't remember this at all (I'm sure I must have been aware when it was happening, but my brain is too filled with other things to retain this) but I don't understand why people weren't all over the 50 year old? Exactly! I did read that his manager dropped him and his family was upset, but that is all I saw at the time. I vaguely recall seeing them on some show where Courtney was making these weird expressions at Doug trying to look sexy, I imagine, but instead looking completely foolish. I personally blame her parents. Wouldn't they have to sign permission for her to marry at 16? I know the girl could have just run away with him anyway, but there is no way I could see myself giving my permission for my 16-year-old daughter to marry anyone, let alone a 50-year-old dude. She may have had the body of a mature person, but certainly not the emotional state. And she lost out on the camaraderie of high school friends, dances, football games, etc. I think those years are important to experience as a kid. |
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Post by christine58 on May 14, 2021 1:49:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 1:53:53 GMT
Target confirmed the move to Page Six: “We made the mutual decision in December to no longer carry the cookware line, given our continued focus on brands we develop and that can only be found at Target.” (Teigen’s line of cookbooks, however, are still available on Target’s website.) “All of these business moves were in motion long before Courtney, rightfully, raised their issues with Chrissy’s treatment of them.” |
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Post by Zee on May 14, 2021 2:48:40 GMT
I bet every single person on this thread has said something shitty in their lives, just probably not as themselves in a public forum. This is just another modern-day social media witch hunt, which some of you seem to really really enjoy.
Nobody even thinks about Courtney Stodden anymore and if she wanted to get on with her life she sure wouldn't be bringing this up now trying to stay relevant. What else does this chick do? Boring.
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Post by jackietex on May 14, 2021 3:06:13 GMT
This comes up every time CT trends on Twitter, and it gets ugly.
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Post by Really Red on May 14, 2021 3:10:31 GMT
I hadn't heard of this because I've never heard of Courtney Stodden and I actively avoid anything Chrissy Teagen. She's so freaking attention-seeking. If her name isn't trending on twitter for a hot second, she releases some ridiculous, over-sharing detail about her life or her sex with her husband or her favorite food in the third grade. It just screams of "look at me, look at me." I felt compassion for her during her losses and I appreciate that she speaks freely of her losses and her children which hopefully helps de-stigmatize it for other women, but otherwise, I'd be perfectly glad if we never heard anything about her ever again. I just don't understand how someone with her family, beauty, wealth, and influence can be so chronically insecure. She's the poster child for privilege, and while I don't fault her for her privilege, I fault her for squandering it. And though he's mega-talented, I disdain her husband by association. I totally agree. I only know who Chrissy Tiegen is because of her Twitter drama. I was really shocked at how mean people were when she and John lost their baby. You'd think she'd have issued a more genuine apology to Stodden after having been put through the wringer as a grieving mother. Courtney Stodden was a CHILD and the relationship between them and that creep they married seemed so wrong. Courtney always looked sad and unhappy, or high. I'm glad they're telling their story and I hope they are receiving the help they deserve. (Using "they" because Stodden identifies as non-binary.) I completely agree. Courtney was a child - 16yo!!!! for heaven's sake. I was disgusted with her mother and sickened by her husband at the time. I remember what people said and wanted to see if her breasts were real. She was a KID. I was horrified. OTOH, I like(d) Chrissy. I know she's not perfect, but I like(d) that she speaks her mind. No more. Unbelievable what she did. Why? What power did that give her to tell a 16 yo and Quvenzhané Wallis (who is only 17 now - so not sure how old she was then) to kill themselves. What sick person does that? Is there an apology big enough for that? Possibly, but it would involve personal commitment to improvement and change and I don't see that. It's good that she admitted what she did but it is quite simply not enough. I am truly disgusted with her. And why didn't either one of these young girls say something? Did they think it just wouldn't matter? That is what is so horrifying. The kind of horrible messages they get at such a young age is beyond comprehension. I bet every single person on this thread has said something shitty in their lives, just probably not as themselves in a public forum. This is just another modern-day social media witch hunt, which some of you seem to really really enjoy. Nobody even thinks about Courtney Stodden anymore and if she wanted to get on with her life she sure wouldn't be bringing this up now trying to stay relevant. What else does this chick do? Boring. Wow. She is allowed to say what she wants just like all of us are. I know there are things in my past that I am not proud of, but I can assure you not one of them comes close to what Chrissy said to these girls. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Have you told someone to hurt themselves? To kill themselves? No one is perfect and we aren't saying we are, but I would be hugely surprised if you found a lot of people saying these hideous and horrible things OVER AND OVER again to someone. |
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on May 14, 2021 3:15:49 GMT
I don't know much about Chrissy but she recently admitted to having a drinking problem, and that she is sober now. I wonder if that has something to do with some of her poor behavior in the past. I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. You are blessed to have no alcoholics in your life, that have their thoughts, feelings, words and actions changed, every time they drink. Signed the grand daughter, daughter and wife, of alcoholics. |
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Post by elaine on May 14, 2021 3:19:29 GMT
I remember discussing Courtney and Doug here (or on 2Ps, depending on when it was) when they got married. And while some of the comments may have been directed at her, most of the negativity was toward Doug and Courtney’s mom. I remember us discussing this on 2Peas too. The disgust really was aimed at Courtney’s mom and Doug - with just a heaping dose of “ick!!!” all the way around and the thought of a parent-sanctioned marriage between a 50 year old and a child. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 14, 2021 3:20:33 GMT
Just to clarify, the comments to Q Wallis had nothing to do with killing her self. She called her a brat and and some other stuff. Still, why engage an 8 year old? Chrissy was a fucking adult (or so we thought).
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Post by Zee on May 14, 2021 3:39:18 GMT
I totally agree. I only know who Chrissy Tiegen is because of her Twitter drama. I was really shocked at how mean people were when she and John lost their baby. You'd think she'd have issued a more genuine apology to Stodden after having been put through the wringer as a grieving mother. Courtney Stodden was a CHILD and the relationship between them and that creep they married seemed so wrong. Courtney always looked sad and unhappy, or high. I'm glad they're telling their story and I hope they are receiving the help they deserve. (Using "they" because Stodden identifies as non-binary.) I completely agree. Courtney was a child - 16yo!!!! for heaven's sake. I was disgusted with her mother and sickened by her husband at the time. I remember what people said and wanted to see if her breasts were real. She was a KID. I was horrified. OTOH, I like(d) Chrissy. I know she's not perfect, but I like(d) that she speaks her mind. No more. Unbelievable what she did. Why? What power did that give her to tell a 16 yo and Quvenzhané Wallis (who is only 17 now - so not sure how old she was then) to kill themselves. What sick person does that? Is there an apology big enough for that? Possibly, but it would involve personal commitment to improvement and change and I don't see that. It's good that she admitted what she did but it is quite simply not enough. I am truly disgusted with her. And why didn't either one of these young girls say something? Did they think it just wouldn't matter? That is what is so horrifying. The kind of horrible messages they get at such a young age is beyond comprehension. I bet every single person on this thread has said something shitty in their lives, just probably not as themselves in a public forum. This is just another modern-day social media witch hunt, which some of you seem to really really enjoy. Nobody even thinks about Courtney Stodden anymore and if she wanted to get on with her life she sure wouldn't be bringing this up now trying to stay relevant. What else does this chick do? Boring. Wow. She is allowed to say what she wants just like all of us are. I know there are things in my past that I am not proud of, but I can assure you not one of them comes close to what Chrissy said to these girls. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Have you told someone to hurt themselves? To kill themselves? No one is perfect and we aren't saying we are, but I would be hugely surprised if you found a lot of people saying these hideous and horrible things OVER AND OVER again to someone. I think you'd be pretty surprised at people's true natures and things they've said. Just look at Trump and how many supporters he has BECAUSE OF, not in spite of, the shitty things he's said. I'm tired of social media witch hunts though. Over it. Every day we're supposed to cancel someone...shit gets old. How about we just don't pay attention to bad behavior? Why does it need to be aired over and over again? Why must we always be OUTRAGED? I'm tired, boss. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 4:55:00 GMT
I get your point Zee. I really do, and usually, I'd agree with you.
I refuse to believe that most people I know have ever told someone to kill themselves, much less multiple someones, and I know I never have. I think that crosses a line of decency that most people don't cross.
I also question Stodden's raising of this issue NOW, 10 years later. That definitely raises an eyebrow as to motive.
However, CT regularly puts herself in the limelight, either by some virtue signaling she's doing, or by claiming to be the victim of something. I think it's appropriate that people are calling her on her crap. Do I think she should be canceled? Meh. I never thought she should have been a thing to begin with, so I'd be happy for her to fade away, but not because of canceling, but because of people realizing she doesn't bring much to the table and they're no longer eating it up.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 4:56:57 GMT
I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. You are blessed to have no alcoholics in your life, that have their thoughts, feelings, words and actions changed, every time they drink. Signed the grand daughter, daughter and wife, of alcoholics. You're incorrect. But I've never thought that alcohol changed him. It just exposed him for who I knew he was deep inside. I'm sorry that you have to live with that though. Clearly your experience is different than mine. |
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Post by inkedup on May 14, 2021 5:06:39 GMT
I bet every single person on this thread has said something shitty in their lives, just probably not as themselves in a public forum. This is just another modern-day social media witch hunt, which some of you seem to really really enjoy. Nobody even thinks about Courtney Stodden anymore and if she wanted to get on with her life she sure wouldn't be bringing this up now trying to stay relevant. What else does this chick do? Boring. I've said tons of shitty things in my life. But I have never, ever told someone to kill themselves. Courtney Stodden isn't any more thirsty than Chrissy Tiegen. In fact, one might argue that Tiegen's need for attention and relevance is far more pathetic than Stodden's, given the fame and wealth that Tiegen enjoys even without her famous and wealthy husband. Courtney Stodden likely doesn't have many resources and if telling thir story will help them out...who cares? |
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Post by Zee on May 14, 2021 12:26:24 GMT
I bet every single person on this thread has said something shitty in their lives, just probably not as themselves in a public forum. This is just another modern-day social media witch hunt, which some of you seem to really really enjoy. Nobody even thinks about Courtney Stodden anymore and if she wanted to get on with her life she sure wouldn't be bringing this up now trying to stay relevant. What else does this chick do? Boring. I've said tons of shitty things in my life. But I have never, ever told someone to kill themselves. Courtney Stodden isn't any more thirsty than Chrissy Tiegen. In fact, one might argue that Tiegen's need for attention and relevance is far more pathetic than Stodden's, given the fame and wealth that Tiegen enjoys even without her famous and wealthy husband. Courtney Stodden likely doesn't have many resources and if telling thir story will help them out...who cares? Exactly, who cares? |
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Post by Really Red on May 14, 2021 14:41:06 GMT
I get your point Zee. I really do, and usually, I'd agree with you. I refuse to believe that most people I know have ever told someone to kill themselves, much less multiple someones, and I know I never have. I think that crosses a line of decency that most people don't cross. I also question Stodden's raising of this issue NOW, 10 years later. That definitely raises an eyebrow as to motive. However, CT regularly puts herself in the limelight, either by some virtue signaling she's doing, or by claiming to be the victim of something. I think it's appropriate that people are calling her on her crap. Do I think she should be canceled? Meh. I never thought she should have been a thing to begin with, so I'd be happy for her to fade away, but not because of canceling, but because of people realizing she doesn't bring much to the table and they're no longer eating it up. I had a very bad experience with harassment when I was 23ish. I did speak out then, but truly no one cared and my boss threatened to fire me. It wasn't the time. #metoo came along and then people started listening and a lot of people said "why didn't they say something before?" Because no one listened!!! I don't know the case with Stodden, but I do know she was 16yo and exploited by both her mother and her 51yo husband. Maybe she couldn't say something. Maybe she thought she deserved it? (this breaks my heart, but I suspect it might be the case with the psycho mom she has). Maybe now (is she 26?) she feels more empowered and ready to take on things. I mean, for heaven's sake, Anderson Cooper was piling on. Did this 16yo think she had a chance? I will always give a kid the benefit of the doubt. ETA: Maybe if we cancelled people who say this kind of hateful stuff, we wouldn't be continually subjected to it. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 14, 2021 16:05:11 GMT
I've said tons of shitty things in my life. But I have never, ever told someone to kill themselves. Courtney Stodden isn't any more thirsty than Chrissy Tiegen. In fact, one might argue that Tiegen's need for attention and relevance is far more pathetic than Stodden's, given the fame and wealth that Tiegen enjoys even without her famous and wealthy husband. Courtney Stodden likely doesn't have many resources and if telling thir story will help them out...who cares? Exactly, who cares? Cares would be a strong word, but with as with anything on this board, the snark and entertainment factor are why I’m here. Same with Prince Harry and am I the asshole and do you foot flush. |
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Post by inkedup on May 14, 2021 16:27:36 GMT
I've said tons of shitty things in my life. But I have never, ever told someone to kill themselves. Courtney Stodden isn't any more thirsty than Chrissy Tiegen. In fact, one might argue that Tiegen's need for attention and relevance is far more pathetic than Stodden's, given the fame and wealth that Tiegen enjoys even without her famous and wealthy husband. Courtney Stodden likely doesn't have many resources and if telling thir story will help them out...who cares? Exactly, who cares? Lots of us, by the looks of it. You seem chuffed that people think Stodden was victimized here and cared enough to push back. Anyway, I've exhausted all the brain power I care to donate to Chrissy Tiegen, but I do feel oddly compelled to defend Stodden. It's wrong to tell someone to kill themselves. End of story. |
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Post by oh yvonne on May 14, 2021 16:44:46 GMT
I don't know much about Chrissy but she recently admitted to having a drinking problem, and that she is sober now. I wonder if that has something to do with some of her poor behavior in the past. I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. Mel Gibson, anyone? |
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Post by Zee on May 14, 2021 17:21:22 GMT
Cares would be a strong word, but with as with anything on this board, the snark and entertainment factor are why I’m here. Same with Prince Harry and am I the asshole and do you foot flush. You have a valid point 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 1:13:03 GMT
I've never been drunk before but I don't think alcohol can plant thoughts in you that weren't there on some level before. It just removes your good sense to not say it out loud. If she had a drinking problem, it only made her worse at hiding who she really is. Mel Gibson, anyone? Is this an agreement or a refutation? I stand by what I said even with the Mel Gibson example. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 19:54:11 GMT
WOW! What we learn on the Peas!!!!!!!!! My initial feeling about Chrissy was disdain, immediately, but then I felt badly about her loss of her baby, etc. I admire her husband's talent and know NOTHING more about him. I always thought that Chrissy had bad taste in friends (Jenner/Kardashian group), and to promote them says something about her. Ick.
I read enough of the hate-tweets towards her after the loss of her baby and it was awful. I don't blame her for backing away from tweeting at that time. I didn't know anything else about her Twitter or social media disasters though and I don't even know who this Courtney person is.
I hope that they all get the help that they need.
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