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Post by gar on Jun 14, 2021 7:26:51 GMT
And Pom is a dog or the nickname for the Brits in Australia
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Post by joelise on Jun 14, 2021 7:45:37 GMT
I say parm, no L, but my clumsy fingers ticked the wrong box!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 8:23:41 GMT
I don't say palm and salmon in the same way. Palm sounds a bit like parm but it's more paaam ( a long a ) where as salmon is a short a without the L - similar to Sam but adding the on with no emphasis on either syllable. Palm:-
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jun 14, 2021 9:08:18 GMT
I'm English and I pronounce the l in palm, palmolive (both the same) and also in almond. I don't pronounce the l in salmon or yolk/folk, although my Bristolian in-laws give yolk/folk a short o and they pronounce the l. They almost rhyme it with hulk, but not quite.
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Post by AllieC on Jun 14, 2021 10:02:33 GMT
pahm yoke ah-mund sammun Those of you saying that you pronounce palm as "pom" - that's not how I hear Americans pronouncing it. Pom has a much shorter -o- sound. I don't know how to write the phonetic spelling of how I hear Americans pronounce it. But it's definitely more of an O sound than the drawn out AH of how an Australian would say it. This is why I have said before we need to set up a Two Peas YouTube pronunciation channel! Ditto. Love the YouTube idea. Even when people are typing the way they pronounce something, I often still can’t get it.
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Post by zuke on Jun 14, 2021 10:09:07 GMT
We don’t pronounce the L here, but we certainly don’t say “pom” either - there is no O in the word. We say pahm. ETA - and we also say “ahmond” and “yoke”… That's EXACTLY how we pronounce all of them. I think it all depends on where you live. I am originally from NY and now live in FL. There's lots of words that are pronounced differently from each other.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 14, 2021 11:48:05 GMT
Definitely with an L. If you don’t say the L, do you say it like the name Pam? More like “pawm.” I do use an /l/, but it is very soft.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 14, 2021 11:51:30 GMT
Even though I know the L is there, I say POM. And yet, when referring to the dish soap, I pronounce the L - Palmolive. Weird, eh? I thought I used a soft L, but when I read this message I realized that this is actually how I pronounce it. Tell me I’m not the only one saying it out loud right now
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 14, 2021 11:53:47 GMT
Even though I know the L is there, I say POM. And yet, when referring to the dish soap, I pronounce the L - Palmolive. Weird, eh? I thought I used a soft L, but when I read this message I realized that this is actually how I pronounce it. Tell me I’m not the only one saying it out loud right now No, I have been. And I realize that there is barely an /l/. Who knew?
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 14, 2021 12:52:28 GMT
We don’t pronounce the L here, but we certainly don’t say “pom” either - there is no O in the word. We say pahm. ETA - and we also say “ahmond” and “yoke”… There's no O in walk either but we still pronounce it with a short O sound. England has colonized and was colonized so many times that we can't expect logic. I'm impressed with anyone who can pick English up as a second language.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 14, 2021 12:52:53 GMT
SaLmon sounds odd to me too. We don’t pronounce every letter in every word so I don’t see why this is a discussion really. Right? Just like we don't pronounce the L in 'half'. (Please tell me we don't pronounce the L in 'half'!)
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 14, 2021 13:39:25 GMT
SaLmon sounds odd to me too. We don’t pronounce every letter in every word so I don’t see why this is a discussion really. I agree. We don’t say the L in half or the K in knife. There are lots of words with letters we don’t pronounce. I do say the L in yolk and palm though. Super interesting that palm is pronounced parm by some.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 13:44:03 GMT
I'm having a hard time imaging how the l in yolk is said.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 13:52:20 GMT
I'm having a hard time imaging how the l in yolk is said. Me too. My yolk rhymes with joke
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Post by KiwiJo on Jun 14, 2021 14:41:10 GMT
We don’t pronounce the L here, but we certainly don’t say “pom” either - there is no O in the word. We say pahm. ETA - and we also say “ahmond” and “yoke”… There's no O in walk either but we still pronounce it with a short O sound. England has colonized and was colonized so many times that we can't expect logic. I'm impressed with anyone who can pick English up as a second language. I don’t think I have ever heard walk pronounced with a short O sound - so do you pronounce walk and wok the same? We really do need the You Tube thing, don’t we! And I’m with you on English as a 2nd language.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 14, 2021 14:48:36 GMT
There's no O in walk either but we still pronounce it with a short O sound. England has colonized and was colonized so many times that we can't expect logic. I'm impressed with anyone who can pick English up as a second language. I don’t think I have ever heard walk pronounced with a short O sound - so do you pronounce walk and wok the same? We really do need the You Tube thing, don’t we! And I’m with you on English as a 2nd language. Yes - I pronounce walk and wok the same /wɔk/
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 14, 2021 14:55:04 GMT
Pahm crew here!
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Post by myshelly on Jun 14, 2021 15:02:22 GMT
And Pom is a dog or the nickname for the Brits in Australia Oh I agree. I don’t say it Pom, either.
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Post by artbabe on Jun 14, 2021 15:05:48 GMT
I'm in Ohio.
Palm definitely has a soft l Yolk has no l - rhymes with joke Salmon has no l, but I have cousins with the last name Salmon and they pronounce their name with the l. Palmolive is palm-olive Almond has an l in it but almost no d
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 14, 2021 15:15:00 GMT
I'm having a hard time imaging how the l in yolk is said. Like how the l in milk is pronounced. Unless you pronounce that as mick. 😊
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Post by Anita on Jun 14, 2021 15:16:11 GMT
palm, yolk, almond all have a distinct, almost hard, L sound. Salmon does have a soft barely voiced L to it. So you say yoLk? I don't think I've ever heard anyone sound the L in yolk, although I have heard it in salmon and almond. Yes, we do around here. I have never heard anyone pronounce it without the "l" sound around here. I'm going with voltagain on this one.
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Post by gar on Jun 14, 2021 15:23:19 GMT
All these variations...so interesting
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Post by myshelly on Jun 14, 2021 15:26:40 GMT
So you say yoLk? I don't think I've ever heard anyone sound the L in yolk, although I have heard it in salmon and almond. Yes, we do around here. I have never heard anyone pronounce it without the "l" sound around here. I'm going with voltagain on this one. I agree. I pronounce the L in yolk. Yolk and yoke are two different words. They sound different and mean different things.
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Post by katlady on Jun 14, 2021 15:59:53 GMT
Yes, we do around here. I have never heard anyone pronounce it without the "l" sound around here. I'm going with voltagain on this one. I agree. I pronounce the L in yolk. Yolk and yoke are two different words. They sound different and mean different things. I tried. I cannot pronounce them differently.
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Post by katlady on Jun 14, 2021 16:26:32 GMT
Yes - I pronounce walk and wok the same /wɔk/ My mouth does two different things when saying these words. Not the same for me. "Wok" has a sharper ending for me. "Walk" has a softer, fade out ending for me. More drawn out than "wok".
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Post by gillyp on Jun 14, 2021 16:36:52 GMT
Walk is surely W-awe-k to rhyme with dork! Wok rhymes with sock and a wok is what I cook stir fry in. I am still amazed/taken aback/flabbergasted/surprised that anyone would pronounce the L in yolk. Yes yolk and yoke are different words with different meanings but they are pronounced exactly the same in my world. Such an enlightening and interesting thread.
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 14, 2021 16:52:59 GMT
I agree. I pronounce the L in yolk. Yolk and yoke are two different words. They sound different and mean different things. I tried. I cannot pronounce them differently. Can you pronounce milk and silk with the L?
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Post by sideways on Jun 14, 2021 17:15:12 GMT
Walk is surely W-awe-k to rhyme with dork! Wok rhymes with sock and a wok is what I cook stir fry in. I am still amazed/taken aback/flabbergasted/surprised that anyone would pronounce the L in yolk. Yes yolk and yoke are different words with different meanings but they are pronounced exactly the same in my world. Such an enlightening and interesting thread. Walk is pronounced wore-k? No. Walk does not rhyme with dork. Dork has a very pronounced /r/ and walk doesn’t have the /r/ sound at all. The /l/ in yolk, with the /k/, and both following /ō/, is produced more with the back of the tongue making the /l/ almost imperceptible.
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Post by katlady on Jun 14, 2021 17:32:02 GMT
I tried. I cannot pronounce them differently. Can you pronounce milk and silk with the L? Yes. Never heard them pronounced without the “L”.
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Post by pancakes on Jun 14, 2021 17:52:18 GMT
Palm with a soft L
Salmon like sammon. Although growing up, my parents said sal-mon.
I used to say piano like the Italian pronounciation — pee-ah-no — until some kids made fun of me when I was younger.
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