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Post by onelasttime on Jun 17, 2021 19:28:23 GMT
Copies of the voting data has been transported by truck to the wilds of Montana supposedly to a high tech lab for further analysis.
So CNN decided to investigate to see this high tech lab in the middle of nowhere in Montana.
I think the video of this latest twist to the AZ voter audit is worth a gander to see how ridiculous and at the same time scary this has become because other “Red” states are thinking of doing the same thing as AZ.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 17, 2021 19:56:46 GMT
Someone on Twitter asked if they were headed to the Unabomber’s old shack up there. ha ha … I think
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 20:22:43 GMT
Sounds super legit!
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Post by oh yvonne on Jun 17, 2021 20:26:16 GMT
Okay so I haven't followed this story closely. I don't understand how this is allowed to begin with. Who chose this "company"? Sheesh.
And so..when they find that the election was "not legit" because you KNOW that's the only possible outcome they'll come out with, then what? I mean, like what's the next step for Arizona? Hold the elections again? Or, what if the other states who want to contest it hire this same company to do their audits?
What is plan B here, does anyone know?
Ugh, this makes my head hurt with the stupidity happening in this country.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 17, 2021 20:40:26 GMT
The ballots have been recounted how many times. If they get different results then they have changed the ballots. If there was fraud that evidence would have been long gone at this point. I’m not saying there was fraud but if the ballots were changed or subbed out that evidence is not with these ballots. It sounds like they want to throw out all ballots that don’t have Trump on them even if all the other votes on that ballot were also Republican because that can’t ever happen right lol. I know people that voted Republican except for president.
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Post by heather on Jun 17, 2021 20:50:28 GMT
Okay so I haven't followed this story closely. I don't understand how this is allowed to begin with. Who chose this "company"? Sheesh. And so..when they find that the election was "not legit" because you KNOW that's the only possible outcome they'll come out with, then what? I mean, like what's the next step for Arizona? Hold the elections again? Or, what if the other states who want to contest it hire this same company to do their audits? What is plan B here, does anyone know? Ugh, this makes my head hurt with the stupidity happening in this country. Then more states will get to hold similar 'audits' to find similar results. And then they will pass even harsher legislation to prevent non-Republicans from voting.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 18, 2021 3:50:45 GMT
This just keeps getting better and better
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Post by lucyg on Jun 18, 2021 5:30:48 GMT
This is pathetic. The AZ state senate Republicans hired these nimrods … let’s hope Arizonans have the brains to dump their Republican senators to prevent another boondoggle like this from ever happening again.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 18, 2021 13:41:35 GMT
This is pathetic. The AZ state senate Republicans hired these nimrods … let’s hope Arizonans have the brains to dump their Republican senators to prevent another boondoggle like this from ever happening again. What are the odds? As pointed out above, a lot of people voted for Rs except for Trump. Who do they think is supporting him and protecting him, enabling him? Trump just showed us what our elected officials are actually made of.
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Post by Montannie on Jun 18, 2021 15:32:06 GMT
I think the Unibomber's cabin is on display in a museum in DC. The "cyber lab" is about 200 miles from where the Unibomber's cabin was.
Like Ted, this Ben Cotton is a transplant to Montana. We have enough home-grown nuts, and we don't need anymore.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 18, 2021 21:37:01 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 18, 2021 23:26:41 GMT
Copies of the voting data has been transported by truck to the wilds of Montana supposedly to a high tech lab for further analysis. So CNN decided to investigate to see this high tech lab in the middle of nowhere in Montana. I think the video of this latest twist to the AZ voter audit is worth a gander to see how ridiculous and at the same time scary this has become because other “Red” states are thinking of doing the same thing as AZ. It’s going to the sole owner’s (of the company who took the audit results from AZ) personal home in Montana. So how is that legal? Or transparent?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 18, 2021 23:41:12 GMT
“In recent weeks, GOP lawmakers from at least 16 states have flocked to Phoenix for a first-hand look at a controversial, partisan "audit" of the 2020 vote in Arizona's largest county.
The visits look to be a harbinger for similar exercises yet-to-come in those other states -- and a potential revenue stream for, among others, the Arizona effort's main contractor: Cyber Ninjas. Never heard of Cyber Ninjas before the Arizona audit began two months ago? You are not alone.
Though the Florida-based cybersecurity firm has existed in some form since at least 2014, before last November's election, it hadn't done election auditing, nor been in the public eye. But then, there hasn't been much of it to be in the public eye. Cyber Ninjas exists mostly in virtual reality, with its chief executive, Doug Logan, also serving as, well, pretty much everything.
On recent calls to the company's automated answer line, pressing "3" for sales led to the answering message for Logan. So did pressing "4" for human resources. And pressing "5" for purchasing. And "6" for the general mailbox. Go to the address for Cyber Ninjas' Legal Department, listed on its audit contract with the Arizona Senate, and you'll wind up at a rented mailbox in a UPS Store in Sarasota, Florida. The company's business address registered with Florida's Secretary of State, also in Sarasota, was sold last December, and now sits empty.
Logan himself has strenuously avoided speaking to reporters since taking part in an April 22 press conference just before the audit began. At that conference, he refused to answer questions about how he'd repeated and amplified various debunked election-fraud conspiracy theories on social media, such as this retweet unearthed by the Arizona Mirror, for example: "I'm tired of hearing people say there was no fraud. It happened, it's real, and people better get wise fast." He'd also provided, in a Michigan election lawsuit, an affidavit alleging vulnerabilities in one county's system for tallying votes; state and county officials disagreed, identified a slew of problems with the analysis. And Logan repeated disproven claims in a paper he wrote for Republican US senators objecting to Congress's Jan. 6 certification of President Joe Biden's election win.
But Logan, and the Arizona Senate's audit liaison, Ken Bennett, argued at that press conference that Logan's own opinions don't matter, and that people should trust in the integrity of the audit process he's overseeing.
Logan declined interview requests from CNN. An emailed statement from his spokesman, Rod Thomson, stated that "Mr. Logan recognizes President Biden's results were certified and accepted in accordance with the Constitution. Mr. Logan remains committed to restoring integrity and trust into our election system, which he is demonstrating through the work he is performing here in Maricopa County."
But that's a tough sell, even to Logan's friends.
"It's hard to say anything bad about the guy. He's a lovely person. He's just nuts now," said Tony Summerlin, who has been friends with Logan for 15 years, and said he helped him win a cybersecurity contract with the Federal Communications Commission five years ago. "It's scary; because if someone like him can turn into this, who can't turn into this?"
Summerlin said that in all the years he'd known Logan, before the Arizona audit, "we never, never had a single political conversation; that's what stunned me about this... He said, 'there's definitely something there.' I said, 'based on what?' He said, 'it'll come.' I said, 'you sound like the My Pillow guy.'" Another friend of Logan, who asked not to be named because she works with both Republicans and Democrats in Washington, DC, and feared blowback from being linked to him, described him as very smart, very competent in cybersecurity, and politically naïve. "Doug may not have thought it all the way through," she said.
Logan, 41, graduated from Guilford College in Greensboro, N.C., in 2002, and quickly became involved in cybersecurity work. Summerlin said he first met Logan in 2005 or 2006. "He was in DC trying to get business with the government for his firm, which at that point was him. He seemed like a smart guy."
In 2010, in New York, Logan competed in the first US Cyber Challenge, a national program to identify and develop cybersecurity talent. He went on to become a Cyber Challenge instructor, and helped develop a workshop for the curriculum, according to a person familiar with his work at the program. In March 2014, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported that Sarasota County's Economic Development Corporation was helping Logan relocate his company, Cyber Ninjas, to the city, "with plans to eventually add eight to 10 employees." The paper said Logan was moving there from Bloomington, Indiana, where he'd also worked for the software security company Cigital.
In 2010, in New York, Logan competed in the first US Cyber Challenge, a national program to identify and develop cybersecurity talent. He went on to become a Cyber Challenge instructor, and helped develop a workshop for the curriculum, according to a person familiar with his work at the program. In March 2014, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported that Sarasota County's Economic Development Corporation was helping Logan relocate his company, Cyber Ninjas, to the city, "with plans to eventually add eight to 10 employees." The paper said Logan was moving there from Bloomington, Indiana, where he'd also worked for the software security company Cigital.
Logan, in materials for a cybersecurity conference in Chicago last November, described himself as a father of 11 children and a "Follower of Jesus Christ." But also in November, within days of Trump's election loss, Logan was messaging Ron Watkins. The recent HBO documentary "Q: Into the Storm," pointed to Watkins as either being "Q" or at least a key promulgator of the QAnon conspiracy theories that helped animate many of those who stormed the US Capitol on Jan. 6. Watkins is the former administrator of the internet message-board website 8chan, now 8kun, effectively QAnon's home base. In a series of archived tweets from a now-deleted account between Nov. 12 and December, first reported by The Daily Beast, Logan messaged Watkins, "I'd love to chat if you have a chance;" asked Watkins for links to "original source documents;" and tagged Watkins on his exchanges with attorneys Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, who filed numerous lawsuits challenging Biden's victory and baselessly claiming electoral fraud. Wood also told a reporter for Talking Points Memo that Logan had visited his home in South Carolina to meet with others "working on the investigation into election fraud." Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, who hired Cyber Ninjas, dismissed concerns about Logan's tweets and other indications he might be biased as "tiny little things." Some others don't see them as quite so tiny.
Douglas Cobb, owner of Paper Forensics, a Savannah, Georgia-based document examination firm, shared emails with CNN showing he was approached in April by another Cyber Ninjas subcontractor, Haystack Investigations, of Lebanon, Pennsylvania, to join the Arizona "audit." The emails were first reported by the Arizona Republic. Cobb said he was asked to provide up to 20 people for 14 days to examine the ballot paper, at a rate of $600 a day plus expenses per person and $800 a day for himself. That total, just over $179,000 plus expenses, is more than the Arizona Senate contracted to pay Cyber Ninjas for the audit as a whole: $150,000. As CNN has reported, private partisan sources heavily invested in casting doubt on Biden's election victory claim to have funneled more than $1.6 million to the audit. Neither Fann, nor the Senate, nor Logan, have said how much in private funding Cyber Ninjas has received or spent. At the April 22 press conference, Logan said he didn't know how much his company was being paid, and didn't want to know, because "I don't want to be influenced." Cobb had planned to work on the audit -- until his son looked online into the people he'd be working for. "I withdrew once I found out a little more about who was involved, Cyber Ninjas and Logan and his conspiracy theories," Cobb said. Logan didn't answer questions from CNN about who is accounting for funds received and spent for the audit; about whether he's been approached by legislators from other states to do similar work; about whether his company has an actual office or any full-time employees; about how he and his company came to Fann's attention; or about whether he still believes the conspiracies he touted months ago to GOP US senators, such as debunked allegations of fraud in counties in Georgia and Pennsylvania, or debunked claims that Dominion Voting System's core software originates from intellectual property of Smartmatic, and is linked through Smartmatic to Venezuela's long-dead former president Hugo Chavez, among others. Questions about Logan's beliefs continue to surface. On June 3, when conspiracy theorist and Overstock founder Patrick Byrne released a trailer for a film about the Arizona audit, claiming the election was stolen from Trump, several Arizona reporters immediately pointed to an anonymous speaker, identified only as an "ANON, Application Security Analyst," as sounding exactly like Doug Logan. Summerlin, too, said he recognized Logan's voice. On the trailer, the speaker says, "if we don't fix our election integrity now, we may no longer have a democracy." Shortly after several reporters tweeted about Logan and the trailer, a re-edited version of the trailer was substituted on YouTube with the voice for that speaker digitally altered. Logan didn't respond to queries about whether that was his voice on the trailer, which has now been removed for violating YouTube's community guidelines. The last time he spoke publicly about the audit, on April 22, Logan told reporters, "I know you guys want to paint me like some bad guy in here. I'm involved in this and putting everything on the line with my company because I care about our country. ... Otherwise, who would be stupid enough to walk into this? Every individual that walks into any election integrity thing gets butchered by everybody." Summerlin said Logan recently contacted him to ask for his help, saying that the Universal Service Administrative Company had terminated Cyber Ninjas' contract. Neither Logan nor the USAC responded to questions from CNN about the alleged contract termination. "He said, 'it's wrong they're terminating me,'" Summerlin said. "I said, 'don't be an idiot, of course they're terminating your ass, you work at will.' I said, 'if you get a government contract any time after this, I'll be amazed."
Now what could possibly be wrong??? 🙄
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 30, 2021 19:05:05 GMT
Why?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 30, 2021 19:15:57 GMT
Sure having issues with the chain of custody of the wayward ballots!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 30, 2021 20:31:53 GMT
They’ve already photographed all of them. Nope. Nothing to see here…just a company, run/owned by a trump big lie conspiracy theorist, photographing all the ballots snd keeping them at his personal residence.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2021 18:43:03 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2021 21:46:19 GMT
Are you ready for the newest suggested stunt?!? Arizona State Sen Wendy Rogers posted to Twitter, "I call for the Biden electors to be recalled to Arizona & a new election must be conducted. Arizona's electors must not be awarded fraudulently & we need to get this right." There is no legal mechanism to recall Biden electors, whose role ended after the Electoral College met on December 14th. There is also not a mechanism to redo the presidential election in Arizona. And even if there were a way to switch Arizona's 11 electoral votes from Biden to Donald Trump, Biden still would have won the election by over fifty electoral votes. www.rawstory.com/arizona-audit-2653793516/
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Post by teddyw on Jul 15, 2021 22:09:02 GMT
Do any of these politicians research anything before they open their big mouth on Twitter?!?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2021 22:33:00 GMT
Do any of these politicians research anything before they open their big mouth on Twitter?!? Um, not likely.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 16, 2021 2:08:51 GMT
Do any of these politicians research anything before they open their big mouth on Twitter?!? They’re looking for publicity, not actual results.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 2:11:52 GMT
They are looking for a way to DTs eyes and to get on his radar and get in good with that cult so they can themselves be elected or if already elected get in with a higher up position.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 16, 2021 3:39:20 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2021 3:50:20 GMT
Door to door. How will they know if everyone tells the truth of who they voted for?
But then GOP objects to door to door to give info.... Oh ok, to ask about who you voted for, but not to give out info to save lives!!
Right... GOP no longer or never was pro-life!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 4:07:39 GMT
But then GOP objects to door to door to give info IOKIYAR
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 4:22:23 GMT
Are you ready for the newest suggested stunt?!? Arizona State Sen Wendy Rogers posted to Twitter, "I call for the Biden electors to be recalled to Arizona & a new election must be conducted. Arizona's electors must not be awarded fraudulently & we need to get this right." There is no legal mechanism to recall Biden electors, whose role ended after the Electoral College met on December 14th. There is also not a mechanism to redo the presidential election in Arizona. And even if there were a way to switch Arizona's 11 electoral votes from Biden to Donald Trump, Biden still would have won the election by over fifty electoral votes. Wendy is a moronic thinker. She's a Trumper. But then, I repeat myself. "An additional physical hand recount of 47,000 ballots (2% of election-day ballots plus 5,000 early voting ballots) was conducted in Maricopa County from November 7 through November 9, 2020, and found no discrepancies." azsos.gov/sites/default/files/2020_General_Maricopa_Hand_Count.pdf "The Arizona State Senate had previously claimed they could not release the full suite of documentation because much of it was in the hands of the private firms they hired to conduct the audit. If this excuse is allowed to stand, said a lawyer for American Oversight upon the case’s filing, it means “the Senate or any other public body in Arizona could circumvent public records laws by using public money to hire private contractors to perform government functions and instructing those contractors to maintain sole custody, control and possession of records.” The Superior Court agreed when they dismissed the Senate’s motion to dismiss. “It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,” says the ruling. The Court “completely rejects Senate Defendants’ argument” that the use of private firms to conduct the audit exempts the resulting records from disclosure requirements under the state’s public records law. The Senate must now release requested documentation about the audit. " www.democracydocket.com/2021/07/court-denies-republican-request-to-dismiss-arizona-audit-case/
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Post by oh yvonne on Jul 16, 2021 14:06:47 GMT
so, can someone give me the Cliff's notes version of what's going on now?
So, did they not find anything? Is the re-count over? Sorry I know I am being lazy but honestly I am confused at this point.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2021 16:43:27 GMT
Supposedly they finished but have now found more to look at so they are not done.
I have no doubt that they will look and surely insert enough to meet their numbers... But door to door? Truly threatening...
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 16, 2021 20:20:34 GMT
The Myth…
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
07/15/21
Arizona Senate hearings on the Maricopa County Election Audit is devastating news to the Radical Left Democrats and the Biden Administration. While this, according to the Senate, is preliminary, with results being announced at a later date, it seems that 74,243 Mail-In Ballots were counted with “no clear record of them being sent.” There were 18,000 voters who were scrubbed from the voter rolls AFTER the election. They also revealed that the voting system was breached or hacked (by who?). Very big printer and ballot problems with different paper used, etc., and MUCH MORE.
The irregularities revealed at the hearing today amount to hundreds of thousands of votes or, many times what is necessary for us to have won. Despite these massive numbers, this is the State that Fox News called early for a Biden victory. There was no victory here, or in any other of the Swing States either.
Maricopa County refuses to work together with the Senate and others who are merely looking for honesty, integrity, and transparency. Why do the Commissioners not want to look into this corrupted election? What are they trying to hide? The highly respected State Senator Wendy Rogers said in a tweet the hearing today means we must decertify the election. In any event, the Senate patriots are moving forward with final results to be announced in the not-too-distant future, but based on today’s hearing, why even wait?
The reality…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2021 20:50:15 GMT
And he did not write that statement!!
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