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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2021 2:48:44 GMT
Your statements about Delaware are inaccurate. - They do have drop boxes, which are located at their county election offices and you must use the drop box from the county that issued your absentee ballot. - Delaware passed early voting in 2019 but it doesn’t go in effect until 2022 so if you go by when the laws go into place - yes Delaware will have early voting. - no-excuse absentee ballots were allowed due to the pandemic in 2020 and the legislature is working to make that permanent going forward. - the laws in Delaware state nothing of value can be given but it does not specifically mention food or water and it has not ever been challenged as an issue. - lastly Delaware allows a signed polling place card or a signed social security card (both without photos) as valid voter ID. Georgia requires a photo and will not allow a polling place card or social security card to count in order to vote. Drop boxes were used in 2020 due to the pandemic and the county election offices were only open until 4:30pm. Yes, early voting is due to go in effect in 2022 but until then DE never had it. No-excuse absentee was also only due to the pandemic. Correct, it doesn’t mention food and water specifically but in all my years of voting here I’ve never seen a poll worker offer anything to people in line. I didn’t specify what type of ID only that you needed ID. I personally feel that the best form of ID is a photo ID and I think states should find a way to make it easier for people to get one. What purpose does it serve to roll back things that were allowed due to the pandemic? Other than trying to give validity to the lie that these measures allowed Democrats to "steal" the election, of course? If, as we know, the elections in 2020 were free, fair, and valid, after making an enormous effort to make voting easier for everyone, why is it necessary to require urban counties in Texas, for example, to roll back those allowances?
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2021 3:01:42 GMT
The Atlantic article is stretching claiming it’s harder for absentee voters because one has to write their ID number on the ballot. Who thinks that really makes it harder? It takes longer when I hand over my license in personal to have it checked against the screen, the poll worker to again look at it to verify my picture, scan the back of the license and look at the screen agin for permission to give me the card for the machine. if I wrote the number on an absentee ballet, it would be quicker. I’m not sure how the number of months to request a ballot disenfranchises any segment of Georgians more than another. Perhaps someone has an answer to that one. Drop boxes are now required. My county election office oversees Everything to do with elections in my county. I have yet to hear a Georgia citizen complain because a drop they used is going away. I read the news (ajc)online and my mom watches the local news. The post office is available to mail ballots and can be mailed at the location you get your mail. I do think the drop boxes should be in a secure location with a camera. No voter should lose their vote because a someone can easily steal a Dropbox. You can call for a delivery of food or drink if you get to the point you need nourishment. A water fountain is available inside every voting place that I’m aware of. We Georgians are typically a friendly bunch and I’d save someone’s place in line if they needed to go to the water fountain. I don’t agree with a non elected State official To be appointed by the legislature to control elections.. I’d prefer the ability for the citizens to vote out/recall any SOS that wasn’t doing the job. ..... I was able to walk straight to the check in computer for The Election for our 2 US senators . They had to wait for me to get my license out. I expected at least a little line, but no one was there. My daughter left and came back to her polling place because the computers were down and help was on the way. My daughter votes in Fulton County (Atlanta city) where her line was 2 hours long in November. She didn’t complain and didn’t need a stranger to bring her food or drink. I do believe Fulton County needs new election leadership. They weren’t finished with election by March, so some workers had no training in 2020. I’m not sure new leadership could have prevented the long waits in some areas during Covid. According to the AJC paper, the usual poll workers for some places would not work during Covid due to their age and they couldn’t get enough other people to work those sites. Fulton county is a long county. I can see where someone from one end of the county wouldn’t want to drive to the other end to work an election. There’s precovid stories that indicate a shake up is needed as well. 1. One has to have the ID to be able to write the number down. And before you go on about how the state of Georgia will send someone out to you, blah blah, imagine you live in poverty in a home with no phone or internet. Now you have even more barriers to getting that ID. Imagine you're a US citizen who has noncitizen family members. How likely are you to invite government representatives to your home? Further, how can any of us trust that the very partisan GOP members who lead Georgia are as quick to send out ID helpers to poor, black and brown people as they are to elderly white ones who reliably vote GOP. 2. What's the point in reducing the number of dropboxes from Covid levels? What purpose does it serve, other than to give credence to the lie that the election was "stolen" or "less secure" because of those means? 3. People in less white areas than your daughter probably lives in have dealt with lines that last a lot longer than two hours. Imagine you have to wait for eight hours or longer with no food or water. Cool cool, just order up the Door Dash, right? Really? Your whole post shows an incredible level of privilege. I'm happy for you that you have no idea what it's like to live on the margins of society, but those people don't have everything as easy as you do, and yet they still have the same right to vote that you do. A free and fair society should be going out of its way to make sure voting is easy for everyone. Ask yourself why the GA (and TX, FL, and PA) GOP legislatures are so opposed to doing that.
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cakediva
Drama Llama
Making the world a sweeter place one cake at a time!
Posts: 7,444
Location: Fergus, Ontario
Jun 26, 2014 11:53:40 GMT
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Post by cakediva on Jun 26, 2021 3:06:21 GMT
My one utility company charges a fee for an online auto payment from my checking but credit card is free. My other utility payment charges a fee fir credit card but auto pay from my checking is free. Weird. I pick which ever auto pay is free. I still auto pay my cc from my bank and I get points to boot so that’s fine. But yeah, I’m not paying a $2.5 fee to pay you. Hell no. I realized after a couple of months my town charges $10 to pay the water bill online. I do not understand people who continue to pay online I don’t understand the fee to pay online! That’s stupidity - they are getting their money why charge more? I don’t know anybody who doesn’t pay all their bills online, unless it is a senior citizen who still goes to the bank to pay. I have unlimited transactions with my bank account so I pay everything online through my bank’s online banking system.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 26, 2021 3:14:19 GMT
I don’t know anybody who doesn’t pay all their bills online, unless it is a senior citizen who still goes to the bank to pay. cakedivaI guess you didn't read all the posts. I refuse to pay the gas company their fee to pay online. I use a check, an envelope and a stamp that cost far less!
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cakediva
Drama Llama
Making the world a sweeter place one cake at a time!
Posts: 7,444
Location: Fergus, Ontario
Jun 26, 2014 11:53:40 GMT
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Post by cakediva on Jun 26, 2021 12:47:30 GMT
I don’t know anybody who doesn’t pay all their bills online, unless it is a senior citizen who still goes to the bank to pay. cakediva I guess you didn't read all the posts. I refuse to pay the gas company their fee to pay online. I use a check, an envelope and a stamp that cost far less! I did read that - did you read the part of my post where I said I don’t understand their charging a fee for online payments? No company I’ve ever dealt with here has charged me a fee for paying my bill to the online - gas, hydro, phone/tv/internet, water heater rental, none.
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Post by Zee on Jun 26, 2021 15:50:53 GMT
I don’t know anybody who doesn’t pay all their bills online, unless it is a senior citizen who still goes to the bank to pay. cakedivaI guess you didn't read all the posts. I refuse to pay the gas company their fee to pay online. I use a check, an envelope and a stamp that cost far less! I use bill pay through my credit union, so I don't pay an online fee but can still pay all my bills online.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 26, 2021 17:54:07 GMT
An explanation what the DOJ is going for in Georgia!! The U.S. Department of Justice's lawsuit against Georgia could place the state's Republican lawmakers under a microscope to unveil their biased intent where voting restrictions are concerned. According to the publication, the DOJ's lawsuit seeks three things: "First, it wants the Court to prohibit Georgia election officials from enforcing the problematic provisions of the Georgia law, effectively nullifying those provisions. Second, it is asking the court to authorize federal observers, who would have access to any poll site during Georgia's elections and would report their observations to the Attorney General. Finally, it is asking the Court to require Georgia to obtain preclearance of any new voting changes, that is, require Georgia to file any future proposed changes with the Court and provide the DOJ an opportunity to comment and object to the changes. In order to win the lawsuit, some courts insist that the DOJ must be able to show examples of the "negative, disparate impact" the Republican-led effort has on minority voters. www.rawstory.com/georgia-voters-2653561023/
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Post by hop2 on Jun 26, 2021 18:11:54 GMT
If you can’t afford a Georgia photo ID, you can get a Georgia ID for free(it’s not the drivers license). If you can’t get to the DMV, the state will provide for someone to come to you. If you are old enough where your birth wasn’t recorded, a state official will verify your approx age through your longtime friends or family. Those were possible issues when the voter ID law was discussed and the burden was put on the state to see you got an ID. Personally, I’d like political people and groups to not be able to randomly text my cell phone. I have it for my convenience instead of your need to convince me to vote for you or anyone / any way you want me to vote. It was unreal in the state of Georgia. I was clearly marked as a swing voter even though my mind was made up long before. It was so bad that I sometimes texted back you suck. It didn’t lessen the texts, but it made me feel better for one second until I regain my sense. The mail was unreal as well. The trees that gave their life. Be glad you weren’t in Georgia this election cycle I had barely any election mail at all in 2020, just a bit of local stuff, the least I’d ever experienced in my whole life. And zero phone calls. I guess NJ was written off as decided or something lmao
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Post by hop2 on Jun 26, 2021 18:13:39 GMT
Drop boxes were used in 2020 due to the pandemic and the county election offices were only open until 4:30pm. Yes, early voting is due to go in effect in 2022 but until then DE never had it. No-excuse absentee was also only due to the pandemic. Correct, it doesn’t mention food and water specifically but in all my years of voting here I’ve never seen a poll worker offer anything to people in line. I didn’t specify what type of ID only that you needed ID. I personally feel that the best form of ID is a photo ID and I think states should find a way to make it easier for people to get one. What purpose does it serve to roll back things that were allowed due to the pandemic? Other than trying to give validity to the lie that these measures allowed Democrats to "steal" the election, of course? If, as we know, the elections in 2020 were free, fair, and valid, after making an enormous effort to make voting easier for everyone, why is it necessary to require urban counties in Texas, for example, to roll back those allowances? Because y’all voted too blue for them - they know they css as mr win fair elections were everyone votes.
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