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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2021 19:56:17 GMT
This shouldn't even be worthy of news. If they have minor symptoms, that's what the vaccine was supposed to accomplish. It did it's job. I wish news outlets acted more responsibly. Instead, they're just scaring people for headlines and $. make it newsworthy then. Show how mild the symptoms were BECAUSE they were vaccinated. People with the vaccine have tested positive and often they are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms but not hospitalized. Build the vaccine up
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 19, 2021 19:56:59 GMT
No selling out of anything. The Dems left to delay the vote because they know the voting bill is going to pass, but they will have to return at some point due to the Governor calling as many special sessions as needed. They have many other important items on which to vote also. They left to delay the vote in the hopes that national Democrats will get off their asses, end the filibuster, and pass the voting rights act. Then the Texas GOP will be prevented from doing what they want, and we can get back to things like raising teacher retirement and school funding. But if the Republicans get the permanent majority through suppression and gerrymandering that they want, teachers in this state will never get a retirement raise again. Bang on! 👍🏻
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2021 20:00:01 GMT
I am no expert, but I Googled regarding masks on private planes)charter planes, and everything I read said masks are required. Maybe I am missing something. No one with a heart wants anyone to get Covid-19. What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security. We don't get COLA,and there hasn't been a "raise" in 17 years. The Democrats support this one-time check, but they have to vote on it in the House. well the Texas retired teachers are only out for themselves and I doubt you speak for all of them. A one time check is worth the crap the Texas gop is trying to pull? Ugh. I get that the money will be nice, but damn.
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Post by Merge on Jul 19, 2021 21:33:53 GMT
I am no expert, but I Googled regarding masks on private planes)charter planes, and everything I read said masks are required. Maybe I am missing something. No one with a heart wants anyone to get Covid-19. What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security. We don't get COLA,and there hasn't been a "raise" in 17 years. The Democrats support this one-time check, but they have to vote on it in the House. well the Texas retired teachers are only out for themselves and I doubt you speak for all of them. A one time check is worth the crap the Texas gop is trying to pull? Ugh. I get that the money will be nice, but damn. Yeah, that's another thing - the one time check is a joke. Teacher retirement in this state needs a big raise and a funding overhaul to continue to be viable. Most teachers my age are about as confident of actually seeing any of our TRS money as we would be about seeing SS money if we paid into that - which is to say, not at all. Hauling the Democrats back to cede permanent control to the GOP *and* screw over retired teachers is stupid.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 19, 2021 22:25:44 GMT
If they had stayed in Austin to do the job they were elected to do, this wouldn't be in the news. I’ll bet you don’t ever see the irony and hypocrisy in your post. If texas republicans would do the job they were supposed to do instead of trying so god damn hard to eradicate voting rights, history, and erase people….texas wouldn’t be the shit show it is now.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 19, 2021 22:38:21 GMT
If they had stayed in Austin to do the job they were elected to do, this wouldn't be in the news. I elected my representative to help protect voting rights in Texas, and that’s what she’s doing. Guess you elected yours to make sure the poor brown and black folks in bad old Harris County have a harder time getting the polls. Too damn bad. *snicker* 🥰
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Post by sideways on Jul 19, 2021 23:43:12 GMT
Native(and old)Texan here. The runaway Dems were not wearing masks on the plane, but they all claimed to be vaccinated. Now 5 have confirmed cases of Covid-19, some with symptoms. I hope this isn't going to be a super spreader event. Jamh You must be a Fox news devotee with the spin displayed here. 🙄
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Post by christine58 on Jul 19, 2021 23:54:07 GMT
What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen
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Post by dewryce on Jul 19, 2021 23:55:17 GMT
What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen Welcome to Texas.
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Post by Merge on Jul 19, 2021 23:56:47 GMT
What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen It’s because we don’t have a pension - we have a state retirement system that is parallel to social security. Those of us who have worked in both systems are extra screwed, btw.
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Post by oliquig on Jul 20, 2021 0:04:30 GMT
If they had stayed in Austin to do the job they were elected to do, this wouldn't be in the news. I elected my representative to help protect voting rights in Texas, and that’s what she’s doing. Guess you elected yours to make sure the poor brown and black folks in bad old Harris County have a harder time getting the polls. Too damn bad. Plus they went to Washington where they can try to further equal voting rights for all. It’s not like they flew to Cancun during a state of emergency or anything!
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 20, 2021 1:02:09 GMT
I elected my representative to help protect voting rights in Texas, and that’s what she’s doing. Guess you elected yours to make sure the poor brown and black folks in bad old Harris County have a harder time getting the polls. Too damn bad. Plus they went to Washington where they can try to further equal voting rights for all. It’s not like they flew to Cancun during a state of emergency or anything! Indeed. Really, it’s going to take federal legislation to make a real difference to this issue.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 20, 2021 1:34:01 GMT
What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen It's not at all uncommon for public employees who have a separate retirement plan and do not pay into social security to not receive social security benefits. I'm sure you paid into social security which is why you can draw benefits from it, but if you don't pay into the system, you don't receive benefits - it's really not about screwing anyone. Now if their state is incompetent and isn't fully funding the pension, they very well may get screwed as too many of these plans have over promised and are underfunded, but that's a discussion for another thread.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 20, 2021 1:52:22 GMT
If they had stayed in Austin to do the job they were elected to do, this wouldn't be in the news. Have you considered that they are doing their jobs by going to DC, blocking the voter suppression bill and drawing attention to voting rights? Just because they’re not bowing to the Republicans, it does not mean that the Democrats are not doing their job. The Democrats are representing their constituents by standing up for voting rights.
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Post by worrywart on Jul 20, 2021 4:01:04 GMT
What Texas retired teachers want are the Democrats to return and vote(on the voting law)and to give us a one-time pay check. We retire with small annuities and are prohibited from drawing Social Security Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen It is called the Windfall Elimination Provision which limits the amount of Social Security that teachers and some government workers can draw. This affects teachers who have paid into the SS system while in a different career and also have paid into the state teacher retirement system.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 4:07:37 GMT
It’s not like they flew to Cancun during a state of emergency or anything! She'd be fine w/that cuz freedumb.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 20, 2021 9:19:20 GMT
Here are some interesting numbers about vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths from Covid:
“ The Associated Press, using figures provided by the CDC, found that of the more than 18,000 Americans who died of covid in May, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That’s 0.8 percent. Between Jan. 21 and July 9, 2,471 Virginians died of covid; 18 of them were vaccinated, or 0.7 percent. Between Jan. 1 and June 30, 37,180 Californians died of covid; about 71 — 0.2 percent — were vaccinated.
Maryland reported that of the 130 Marylanders who died of covid in June, none were vaccinated.”
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Post by Merge on Jul 20, 2021 11:02:13 GMT
Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen It is called the Windfall Elimination Provision which limits the amount of Social Security that teachers and some government workers can draw. This affects teachers who have paid into the SS system while in a different career and also have paid into the state teacher retirement system. Yes, that’s me. Getting retirement income based on the entirety of my career and not just part of it is a “windfall.”
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Post by Sorrel on Jul 20, 2021 14:38:36 GMT
It is called the Windfall Elimination Provision which limits the amount of Social Security that teachers and some government workers can draw. This affects teachers who have paid into the SS system while in a different career and also have paid into the state teacher retirement system. Yes, that’s me. Getting retirement income based on the entirety of my career and not just part of it is a “windfall.” Exactly. The WEP/GPO is a blunt instrument that is applied and formulated extremely unfairly. I paid into both SS and my pension at different points in my career. However, since my career is divided fairly evenly between SS and non-SS covered work, I only receive a partial pension, but I have almost half of my SS taken away from me, plus I cannot collect my husband's later either.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jul 20, 2021 14:44:40 GMT
Yup, I’m another whose SS will be decreased because I receive a teacher pension. Paid into both of them; worked non-teaching jobs many years before and during teaching. Much of it goes up in smoke, so it’s not really as simple as paying into v. not paying into.
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Post by jamh on Jul 20, 2021 15:45:52 GMT
From Teacher Retirement System of Texas: 30% of retired Texas teachers draw a pension of $1000 or less per month.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 20, 2021 15:45:56 GMT
I elected my representative to help protect voting rights in Texas, and that’s what she’s doing. Guess you elected yours to make sure the poor brown and black folks in bad old Harris County have a harder time getting the polls. Too damn bad. Plus they went to Washington where they can try to further equal voting rights for all. It’s not like they flew to Cancun during a state of emergency or anything! Take my upvote.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 16:36:12 GMT
Yep. Good old America. Working your ass off for mid-level salaries and then getting pensions related to ALL of your work = WINDFALL!!!!!! Inheriting MILLIONS while sitting on your ass or snorting it up your nose - "EARNED" Inheritance
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 20, 2021 16:44:40 GMT
Why do I have to keep repeating this? The vaccine DOES NOT mean you won't get Covid. It means that you won't end up in the hospital and die.
You must be a Fox News watcher.
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Post by sabrinae on Jul 20, 2021 17:02:45 GMT
Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen It's not at all uncommon for public employees who have a separate retirement plan and do not pay into social security to not receive social security benefits. I'm sure you paid into social security which is why you can draw benefits from it, but if you don't pay into the system, you don't receive benefits - it's really not about screwing anyone. Now if their state is incompetent and isn't fully funding the pension, they very well may get screwed as too many of these plans have over promised and are underfunded, but that's a discussion for another thread. But even if you’ve paid into both systems you are precluded from drawing SS due to “windfall elimination” provisions. Assuming I stay in the state employee retirement system for the rest of my career — I will have to forfeit any money I’ve paid into social security
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 20, 2021 17:43:39 GMT
Why do I have to keep repeating this? The vaccine DOES NOT mean you won't get Covid. It means that you won't end up in the hospital and die. You must be a Fox News watcher. I think there has been mixed messaging about whether people can get Covid after having the vaccine and how likely it is. To say that vaccinated people don’t need to wear masks, can gather, etc , it was giving the impression that they can’t get or spread the virus. But with all of the athletes and others getting tested regularly, I think it It’s showing that it is more common for vaccinated people to get the virus than previously thought. So now the message is that the vaccine at least helps with the severity of the symptoms if you do get it. That doesn’t mean that the vaccine doesn’t work (like the op is suggesting), however.
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Post by tentoes on Jul 20, 2021 17:48:16 GMT
From Teacher Retirement System of Texas: 30% of retired Texas teachers draw a pension of $1000 or less per month. Try living on 1000 a month. Yikes.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 20, 2021 17:49:07 GMT
I’m really sorry for the teachers in Texas, for the unfair retirement system and for being used as pawns in the Republican’s latest talking points. The Republicans couldn’t pass a raise or one time check during the regular session. What makes them think they can pass one now? What’s changed? Nothing except the Democrats left town and Republicans are fighting back with whatever talking points they can dream up, avoiding the real problem of the voter suppression bill. Furthermore, the governor called a special session specifically for restrictive voting laws. There was no mention of this one time check until the Democrats left town. www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/07/16/retired-teachers-become-political-football-in-battle-over-texas-democrats-walkout/
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Post by Merge on Jul 20, 2021 18:03:13 GMT
Why do I have to keep repeating this? The vaccine DOES NOT mean you won't get Covid. It means that you won't end up in the hospital and die. You must be a Fox News watcher. I think there has been mixed messaging about whether people can get Covid after having the vaccine and how likely it is. To say that vaccinated people don’t need to wear masks, can gather, etc , it was giving the impression that they can’t get or spread the virus. But with all of the athletes and others getting tested regularly, I think it It’s showing that it is more common for vaccinated people to get the virus than previously thought. So now the message is that the vaccine at least helps with the severity of the symptoms if you do get it. That doesn’t mean that the vaccine doesn’t work (like the op is suggesting), however. Hm, the only impression I ever got was that we can unmask and gather because we’re very unlikely to have serious illness from the virus or to pass it on to others. I’m not sure where people got the idea that the vax eliminated the risk entirely. Health authorities have been pretty clear on this all along IMO.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 20, 2021 18:06:39 GMT
Not to change the subject but you all got screwed. I have a retirement pension qand can draw from SS..how the hell did that all happen Welcome to Texas. and colorado
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