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Post by papersilly on Jul 27, 2021 21:49:41 GMT
los angeles county has had the indoor rule for a week and a half now. not surprised other places are moving towards that too. thanks a lot, unvaccinated people. this is why we can't have nice things.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 27, 2021 21:50:40 GMT
NOPE..we have been at 0% for almost 2 weeks.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 27, 2021 21:52:27 GMT
It sounds like Cuomo is going to leave it in the hands of local leaders Thank god....He apparently has no more authority and it's all at the local level. My county has a 7 day % of 0.0%
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Post by withapea on Jul 27, 2021 21:58:58 GMT
😂😂😂I live in Texas. (I’ll be masking up no matter what my moronic gubner says). Right. Our local counties are seeing big jumps and Delta is uncontrolled. Abbott and the rest are devoid of any sense or humanity.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 27, 2021 21:59:51 GMT
My county is at Moderate right now, and thankfully we are the 2nd most vaccinated county in the state. However, we still have cases rising and our positivity rate has been doubling for the past 2 weeks.
And we're about to have Lollapalooza for the next 4 days. Yikes.
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Post by Just T on Jul 27, 2021 22:02:00 GMT
I'm in Florida - my whole state is red and the governor is an idiot who outlawed mask mandates ages ago. I feel your pain. The day after it was announced that St. Louis county was instituting a mask mandate, our state's attorney general immediately filed a lawsuit to stop it.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 27, 2021 22:23:12 GMT
I'm mostly worried about what this means for colleges. I was so hoping my kids could have a normal year! Damn anti-vaxxers. I also am so frustrated for my college student, and for my K-12 students, and for me! (I want to teach in person and without masks). Cannot say enough how angry I am that people show so little care for children.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2021 22:23:41 GMT
I'm mostly worried about what this means for colleges. I was so hoping my kids could have a normal year! Damn anti-vaxxers. ds was a freshman in 2020. He has not gone back. I do t know if he will.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2021 22:26:01 GMT
My county is moderate. Man, that delta variant has just taken over! No mandates here for now. I just flew today for the first time in 16 months and ended up wearing my mask all day. It wasn't even the slightest bit of an inconvenience. I honestly don't know what the hell is wrong with people in vilifying the most basic of public health precautions. Bunch of snowflakes. My husband's cousin is failing rapidly on a ventilator in a hospital in FL. She couldn't be vaccinated due to an allergy to one of the ingredients. And now they aren't expecting her to live. I'm so sorry to hear this
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2021 22:27:36 GMT
YDS will be a senior this year. I was hoping for close to normal
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 27, 2021 22:28:05 GMT
Ugh I’m so glad I just moved. My congressional rep (well former) a DR just posted an anti mask rant about them being for control on Facebook. Meanwhile the county and state are very rapidly heading in the wrong direction! 😢
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 27, 2021 22:32:06 GMT
I'm mostly worried about what this means for colleges. I was so hoping my kids could have a normal year! Damn anti-vaxxers. ds was a freshman in 2020. He has not gone back. I do t know if he will. It's been so tough for these kids. My daughter was a freshman last year and my son will be one this year. I really don't know if my daughter will go back for another year of online, remote classes. I think she'll gap. My son is swimming in theory, so doesn't really have the flexibility to gap unless the season is cancelled.
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 22:51:13 GMT
😂😂😂I live in Texas. (I’ll be masking up no matter what my moronic gubner says). I’m currently in Maine looking for teaching jobs. Only half kidding. I don’t want to go back to that Covid cesspool and mask up at school again because of the morons in our state wouldn’t get a vax. But that’s where we’re headed. I want to vomit. I’ll probably throat punch the next person who tries to defend anti-vaxxers or any of the Trump apologists who brought this on.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 22:53:21 GMT
WTF are we doing in this situation again? Just as things were opening up and there was a certain level of "normal." This makes me feel hopeless, and from what they say about transmissibility, I feel doomed to get it even though I'm vaccinated and wear a mask. Filled with rage at the ignorance and selfishness. Masks mandates lifted too soon. 1) People are selfish assholes and stopped wearing them because they could even though they were unvaccinated 2) Gave people who were vaccinated the impression they were almost completely protected regardless of what other countries were learning. Yes, if you basically read the fine print you knew there were exceptions but that’s not what the push of the messaging was. 3) Did it before they had a good grasp on the Delta variant when we knew it was behaving differently. We may have had low rates of infection at that time but other countries did not and we could see how fast it spread there. 4) Did it before we had a good grasp on how long the protection lasted. Obviously we are learning as we go and they can’t predict the future. But they could have learned from other health systems rather than wait on data from ours. Try and get ahead of the issues.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 22:54:32 GMT
I live in a red county surrounded by red counties as far as the eye can see. I suspect there will barely be an uptick in mask wearing, and no chance of enforcing it in schools to protect the people who teach and care for our children because freedumb. If I sound pissed and bitter it’s because I am.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 22:57:53 GMT
😂😂😂I live in Texas. (I’ll be masking up no matter what my moronic gubner says). I’m currently in Maine looking for teaching jobs. Only half kidding. I don’t want to go back to that Covid cesspool and mask up at school again because of the morons in our state wouldn’t get a vax. But that’s where we’re headed. I want to vomit. I’ll probably throat punch the next person who tries to defend anti-vaxxers or any of the Trump apologists who brought this on. Seriously, it can’t hurt to look, right? As I was reading the recommended updates today I thought of you, and I was just reading peabay’s post thinking “I want to live there.” Can’t effectively do your job because of masks, can’t keep you and your children safe without them.
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Post by cade387 on Jul 27, 2021 23:00:41 GMT
Our governor would not let our county do that. He insists there will be no more mask mandates, ever, period. You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status.
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 23:07:57 GMT
I’m currently in Maine looking for teaching jobs. Only half kidding. I don’t want to go back to that Covid cesspool and mask up at school again because of the morons in our state wouldn’t get a vax. But that’s where we’re headed. I want to vomit. I’ll probably throat punch the next person who tries to defend anti-vaxxers or any of the Trump apologists who brought this on. Seriously, it can’t hurt to look, right? As I was reading the recommended updates today I thought of you, and I was just reading peabay’s post thinking “I want to live there.” Can’t effectively do your job because of masks, can’t keep you and your children safe without them. Yep, I’ve been saying all along I’d change my mask stance when the science indicated. Was hoping it wouldn’t be so soon!
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 23:14:19 GMT
Our governor would not let our county do that. He insists there will be no more mask mandates, ever, period. You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status. Lol - most of Texas won’t realize that. We are jalapeño-spiced lemmings here.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 23:16:07 GMT
Seriously, it can’t hurt to look, right? As I was reading the recommended updates today I thought of you, and I was just reading peabay ’s post thinking “I want to live there.” Can’t effectively do your job because of masks, can’t keep you and your children safe without them. Yep, I’ve been saying all along I’d change my mask stance when the science indicated. Was hoping it wouldn’t be so soon! Yeah, most people aren’t reasonable like that. As you know I think the CDC fucked up lifting it in the first place if only because there will be so much pushback from them going back and forth with poor messaging. What I was thinking when I read it…how do you think this will affect your school, in the area you are? I know you said you wouldn’t/couldn’t teach if you had to wear masks, understandably. How do you think it will play out for you? I know mask mandates aren’t allowed (thanks Abbot ), but do you think your kids in particular will be wearing them anyway?
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 27, 2021 23:16:41 GMT
Our governor would not let our county do that. He insists there will be no more mask mandates, ever, period. You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status. Yeah, but what’s the point? We know that masks assist far more in preventing someone from spreading it than from getting infected, so why should I bother masking up when all of the unvaccinated are walking around, spreading their germs like glitter? I did my job: I masked and stayed home when the vaccine wasn’t available, and I got the vaccine when it was. If the mask isn’t going to keep me from getting COVID, why tf should I be concerned with protecting the assholes who are willfully remaining unvaxxed? (And, yes, I know there are people out there who want to be vaccinated and can’t. But the risk from me is minimal compared to the unvaxxed/unmasked.)
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Post by myshelly on Jul 27, 2021 23:19:15 GMT
Our governor would not let our county do that. He insists there will be no more mask mandates, ever, period. You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status. I’ve done whatever the hell I wanted this whole time 🤣 I simply answered the question in the OP. Is your county headed that way? No, my county can’t do that. Not sure why you felt the need to respond to me that way.
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Post by voltagain on Jul 27, 2021 23:21:10 GMT
Oklahoma has never had a state or county wide mandate through this whole mess. A city can mandate for that town. Oklahoma City and Tulsa had city mandates although OKC's mandate could not include the capitol area. Even though we are less than 40% vaxxed we likely won't have any mandates. I will be surprised if my campus returns to a mask mandate.
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 23:23:47 GMT
Yep, I’ve been saying all along I’d change my mask stance when the science indicated. Was hoping it wouldn’t be so soon! Yeah, most people aren’t reasonable like that. As you know I think the CDC fucked up lifting it in the first place if only because there will be so much pushback from them going back and forth with poor messaging. What I was thinking when I read it…how do you think this will affect your school, in the area you are? I know you said you wouldn’t/couldn’t teach if you had to wear masks, understandably. How do you think it will play out for you? I know mask mandates aren’t allowed (thanks Abbot ), but do you think your kids in particular will be wearing them anyway? Most will. We have a highly educated population and many are employed in the med center. We have a few rich Republican types who will send their kids without masks. And we still have a percentage of kids who are never going to wear one successfully anyway, whether their parents want it or not. We will almost certainly have a segment who refuse to return in person and either withdraw their kids entirely or find some creative way to keep their kids at home and get work sent home for them (which creates another nightmare for all the teachers). As for me, if I can find something else to do that pays a similar amount, I’ll break my contract and go do that. I’ve been looking online and tweaking my resume for non-teaching stuff. Hopefully I only need it for a couple of years until the older one is done with college. Otherwise, I’ll go in and do the bare minimum. I’m just kinda done busting my butt serving the taxpayers of Texas at this point. They can bite me. (If enough kids withdraw that we lose a significant chunk of funding, the decision may be made for me. I might get pink slipped.)
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 23:25:54 GMT
My county is at Moderate right now, and thankfully we are the 2nd most vaccinated county in the state. However, we still have cases rising and our positivity rate has been doubling for the past 2 weeks. And we're about to have Lollapalooza for the next 4 days. Yikes. Who thought that was a good idea? I think you can safely expect your ‘moderate’ to be raised.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2021 23:28:11 GMT
Yep, I’ve been saying all along I’d change my mask stance when the science indicated. Was hoping it wouldn’t be so soon! Yeah, most people aren’t reasonable like that. As you know I think the CDC fucked up lifting it in the first place if only because there will be so much pushback from them going back and forth with poor messaging. What I was thinking when I read it…how do you think this will affect your school, in the area you are? I know you said you wouldn’t/couldn’t teach if you had to wear masks, understandably. How do you think it will play out for you? I know mask mandates aren’t allowed (thanks Abbot ), but do you think your kids in particular will be wearing them anyway? I'm not Merge and I'm in Colorado, but in my rural area the kids won't mask up unless forced no matter the risk. He'll, one district refused to mandate them last year
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 23:28:34 GMT
My county is at Moderate right now, and thankfully we are the 2nd most vaccinated county in the state. However, we still have cases rising and our positivity rate has been doubling for the past 2 weeks. And we're about to have Lollapalooza for the next 4 days. Yikes. Who thought that was a good idea? I think you can safely expect your ‘moderate’ to be raised. It is, at least, outdoors. CDC is really narrowing the main venue of transmission to indoor/poorly ventilated activities.
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Post by Merge on Jul 27, 2021 23:29:40 GMT
Yeah, most people aren’t reasonable like that. As you know I think the CDC fucked up lifting it in the first place if only because there will be so much pushback from them going back and forth with poor messaging. What I was thinking when I read it…how do you think this will affect your school, in the area you are? I know you said you wouldn’t/couldn’t teach if you had to wear masks, understandably. How do you think it will play out for you? I know mask mandates aren’t allowed (thanks Abbot ), but do you think your kids in particular will be wearing them anyway? I'm not Merge and I'm in Colorado, but in my rural area the kids won't mask up unless forced no matter the risk. He'll, one district refused to mandate them last year I also have the benefit of teaching younger kids. Most will wear masks (or try to) if their parents want it.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 23:35:42 GMT
You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status. Yeah, but what’s the point? We know that masks assist far more in preventing someone from spreading it than from getting infected, so why should I bother masking up when all of the unvaccinated are walking around, spreading their germs like glitter? I did my job: I masked and stayed home when the vaccine wasn’t available, and I got the vaccine when it was. If the mask isn’t going to keep me from getting COVID, why tf should I be concerned with protecting the assholes who are willfully remaining unvaxxed? (And, yes, I know there are people out there who want to be vaccinated and can’t. But the risk from me is minimal compared to the unvaxxed/unmasked.) I get the frustration and where you’re coming from, I do. But my answer is still, you do it because it’s the right thing to do for your broader community, especially the vulnerable in it. Because we really don’t know yet how/if the vaccinated are spreading the delta variant. Is it worth the risk? We know now that kids are getting long-haul COVID from mild cases, they’re saying up to 50% of them. Sure, their parents may have have ignorantly decided they don’t need to wear masks, but that doesn’t mean we can’t still do what we can to protect them. The immunocompromised often have to still move about in the community, if only for work. Yes, they can and should wear masks, but as you said most of them aren’t getting a lot of protection from them. So, you're protecting them. And it sucks so hard and frankly, pisses me off that those of us who did everything right still need to do the work to basically try and make up for selfish unvaccinated assholes, especially those that don’t mask. It’s like a group project and you have to pull the weight of most everyone else. But, you do it because the end result is what’s important. That’s how I see it anyway.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 27, 2021 23:38:56 GMT
Who thought that was a good idea? I think you can safely expect your ‘moderate’ to be raised. It is, at least, outdoors. CDC is really narrowing the main venue of transmission to indoor/poorly ventilated activities. Yeah but I think they were thinking regular outdoor activities, even seated venues. Not thousands of bodies practically shoved against each other screaming and singing and expelling two million bazillion droplets into the air all.day.long. And I’m sure many of them will also be eating and sleeping in the community.
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