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Post by cade387 on Jul 28, 2021 0:04:10 GMT
You realize you aren’t a lemming and can wear a mask even if not mandated right? That is the whole point of this post - individual choice and a note about CDC recommending people wear them regardless of mandates or vaccination status. Yeah, but what’s the point? We know that masks assist far more in preventing someone from spreading it than from getting infected, so why should I bother masking up when all of the unvaccinated are walking around, spreading their germs like glitter? I did my job: I masked and stayed home when the vaccine wasn’t available, and I got the vaccine when it was. If the mask isn’t going to keep me from getting COVID, why tf should I be concerned with protecting the assholes who are willfully remaining unvaxxed? (And, yes, I know there are people out there who want to be vaccinated and can’t. But the risk from me is minimal compared to the unvaxxed/unmasked.) Because they are saying that a vaccinated person infected with the delta variant carries enough viral load to infect others. That was not true with the other variants which is why they relaxed the mask requirement in May. They are walking that decision back now based on new data. Wearing a mask has kept me from getting sick with colds or the flu, stopped my allergies and so far has kept me from getting COVId. I know I touch my face less than before. It is a reminder daily to not touch my face as much. So I continue to wear it even though I am fully vaccinated. My kids are not. Others in our lives are immunocompromised and while they are vaccinated I would never forgive myself if I got them sick. I’m ok with it being a choice though and I hate that people think they only have to wear it because someone mandates it. I can choose to wear it all on my own.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 28, 2021 0:21:31 GMT
My area is moderate, although I'm traveling to a substantial/high area for work in a few weeks. It sounds like Cuomo is going to leave it in the hands of local leaders. I don't see our local leaders making it mandatory unless something changes. I am nervous to send my 11 year old back to school after being home for an entire year in the middle of this. Both of my children are sticklers for masks (even the 16 year old vaccinated one) so I wouldn't be surprised if they both choose to wear masks in school if it's optional. My area is considered high risk for the unvaccinated. I’m sure if the CDC recommends going to everybody masking in schools, our governor will follow that guidance. I’m in the same spot you are bianca42. I kept my 11 year old home last year and don’t have that option for the fall unless I pull her out of the district which I kind of don’t want to do. I’m very nervous about sending her to middle school where virtually none of her peers in her grade will be vaccinated. Thankfully she is kind of a germaphobe and is pretty good about masking and she would absolutely be good about wearing one in school if it comes to that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 28, 2021 0:56:27 GMT
Yeah, but what’s the point? We know that masks assist far more in preventing someone from spreading it than from getting infected, so why should I bother masking up when all of the unvaccinated are walking around, spreading their germs like glitter? I did my job: I masked and stayed home when the vaccine wasn’t available, and I got the vaccine when it was. If the mask isn’t going to keep me from getting COVID, why tf should I be concerned with protecting the assholes who are willfully remaining unvaxxed? (And, yes, I know there are people out there who want to be vaccinated and can’t. But the risk from me is minimal compared to the unvaxxed/unmasked.) Because they are saying that a vaccinated person infected with the delta variant carries enough viral load to infect others. That was not true with the other variants which is why they relaxed the mask requirement in May. They are walking that decision back now based on new data. Wearing a mask has kept me from getting sick with colds or the flu, stopped my allergies and so far has kept me from getting COVId. I know I touch my face less than before. It is a reminder daily to not touch my face as much. So I continue to wear it even though I am fully vaccinated. My kids are not. Others in our lives are immunocompromised and while they are vaccinated I would never forgive myself if I got them sick. I’m ok with it being a choice though and I hate that people think they only have to wear it because someone mandates it. I can choose to wear it all on my own. I'm so damn pissed about this! My kids are both working with the public and while vaccinated this new variant impacts their ability to visit their grandparents (who are also vaccinated but extremely high risk) who are in town to see them before going off to college - in theory - who knows with everything happening they'll go. Everyone reading the science knew that variants were not just possible but EXPECTED and people needed to get off their asses and get vaccinated. I'm over the bullshit politicizing of this pandemic - the US government actually did a decent job of making sure we had the vaccine - now these fucking morons won't get the damn shots!
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Post by mnmloveli on Jul 28, 2021 1:05:49 GMT
NEW YORK had 1,526 new cases yesterday (7/26) and a 7-day average of 1,563. We have been on an upward trajectory since early July. We have double the cases in the past few weeks compared to last year.
Everything is open at full capacity; no masks required (except trains, airports, dr/hospitals) no vaccination proof necessary. I can’t imagine where we are heading. I still wear my mask in stores; I don’t trust anyone.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2021 1:21:59 GMT
It is, at least, outdoors. CDC is really narrowing the main venue of transmission to indoor/poorly ventilated activities. Yeah but I think they were thinking regular outdoor activities, even seated venues. Not thousands of bodies practically shoved against each other screaming and singing and expelling two million bazillion droplets into the air all.day.long. And I’m sure many of them will also be eating and sleeping in the community. ah, you mean like Cheyenne Frontier Days and any other stampede, rodeos, and fairs? The Garth Brooks concert on Friday had 22,500 tickets sold. Most of them in the party zone (standing room). I saw maybe 10 people in masks.
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Post by lisae on Jul 28, 2021 1:38:43 GMT
The CDC map shows us at high but the state map for our DHHS shows us far more moderate.
If there is a mask mandate, I will comply but I will resent it greatly. I wore masks everywhere for over a year, I made over 200 masks last spring and gave them away, I got vaccinated as soon as I possibly could. I really don't care if it is possible for me to have a breakthrough case and infect someone who willfully ignored the opportunity to get vaccinated.
Being around children is the only time I wouldn't resent it but I'm almost never around them.
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 28, 2021 1:41:35 GMT
I never stopped wearing mine (I have a 7-year-old). I noticed my library took down the plexiglass on the check out counter in the last week and a half, I wonder how long before it goes back up...
ETA: my county just recommended masking indoors for everyone. I don't think it's mandatory though...
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Post by Megan on Jul 28, 2021 1:47:23 GMT
So we are moderate but going to Utah in a couple weeks and that county is "high." I was finally fine with flying but now ... I don't know.
I wish I could easily pull up numbers from two different counties.
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Post by whipea on Jul 28, 2021 1:50:22 GMT
I'm in Florida - my whole state is red and the governor is an idiot who outlawed mask mandates ages ago. Yup, idiot is an understatement!
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 28, 2021 1:56:00 GMT
Because they are saying that a vaccinated person infected with the delta variant carries enough viral load to infect others. That was not true with the other variants which is why they relaxed the mask requirement in May. They are walking that decision back now based on new data. Wearing a mask has kept me from getting sick with colds or the flu, stopped my allergies and so far has kept me from getting COVId. I know I touch my face less than before. It is a reminder daily to not touch my face as much. So I continue to wear it even though I am fully vaccinated. My kids are not. Others in our lives are immunocompromised and while they are vaccinated I would never forgive myself if I got them sick. I’m ok with it being a choice though and I hate that people think they only have to wear it because someone mandates it. I can choose to wear it all on my own. I'm so damn pissed about this! My kids are both working with the public and while vaccinated this new variant impacts their ability to visit their grandparents (who are also vaccinated but extremely high risk) who are in town to see them before going off to college - in theory - who knows with everything happening they'll go. Everyone reading the science knew that variants were not just possible but EXPECTED and people needed to get off their asses and get vaccinated. I'm over the bullshit politicizing of this pandemic - the US government actually did a decent job of making sure we had the vaccine - now these fucking morons won't get the damn shots! 100% with you on this frustration. While I’m annoyed for myself, I’m especially annoyed on behalf of the college and school kids who have already sacrificed so much.
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Post by Merge on Jul 28, 2021 2:14:17 GMT
I'm so damn pissed about this! My kids are both working with the public and while vaccinated this new variant impacts their ability to visit their grandparents (who are also vaccinated but extremely high risk) who are in town to see them before going off to college - in theory - who knows with everything happening they'll go. Everyone reading the science knew that variants were not just possible but EXPECTED and people needed to get off their asses and get vaccinated. I'm over the bullshit politicizing of this pandemic - the US government actually did a decent job of making sure we had the vaccine - now these fucking morons won't get the damn shots! 100% with you on this frustration. While I’m annoyed for myself, I’m especially annoyed on behalf of the college and school kids who have already sacrificed so much. I mean, the college kids should be able to go on as normal but with masks, right? Certainly in an environment where every person there is old enough to choose the vaccine for themselves, we’re not going to wring our hands over the unvaccinated to the point where we cancel classes. Because I’ll tell you what, as resistant as I am to another year of teaching from behind a mask, I’m way more resistant to paying full college tuition for two kids to take online-only classes.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 28, 2021 2:16:13 GMT
I’m in Florida. Apparently, there is no COVID here as municipalities are prohibited from imposing mask mandates. Bars and restaurants are open full blast. Our governor is a Trumpster fire.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 28, 2021 2:17:57 GMT
I just went to the store and masks were required again.
I think the entire Bay Area will go back to the indoor mask mandate. I agree that I just really hope this doesn’t affect my kid who is supposed to move into a dorm on a UC campus finally with in person classes…
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Post by purplebee on Jul 28, 2021 2:29:32 GMT
Not yet, but I imagine given the current non existent mask rate vs the low vaxx rate we will at some point. Assholes. 😒😡 The rage I feel towards them is real. It didn’t have to be this way. This is how I feel about the COVID rate among the unvaxxed and the ridiculous anti-mask law here in AR. I go back to school in less than a month. Yeah, I’m vaccinated, but the thought of mingling with 300+ unvaccinated and unmasked at-risk primary school kids and two willfully unvaccinated coworkers every day is making me seriously consider retiring. Some days the rage is all-consuming and I’m not even back at work yet! I have just barely recovered from ulcers diagnosed in April. Gee, I wonder why?
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Post by pilcas on Jul 28, 2021 2:50:27 GMT
Most people here are still wearing masks indoors. I stopped wearing mine for a hot second after two weeks post second vax. Then TheDelta strain started taking off and I went back to wearing it. My sister in law got breakthrough COVID but it was a mild 3 day flu like event. We ate together at an indoor restaurant but we were not affected. Still made me realize I have become quite fond of my mask. I am retired so I don’t wear a mask all day and I do understand it must be uncomfortable to have it on for so many hours. For me,it is a small sacrifice it it helps me stay safe.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 28, 2021 2:51:35 GMT
My area is moderate, although I'm traveling to a substantial/high area for work in a few weeks. It sounds like Cuomo is going to leave it in the hands of local leaders. I don't see our local leaders making it mandatory unless something changes. I am nervous to send my 11 year old back to school after being home for an entire year in the middle of this. Both of my children are sticklers for masks (even the 16 year old vaccinated one) so I wouldn't be surprised if they both choose to wear masks in school if it's optional. My area is considered high risk for the unvaccinated. I’m sure if the CDC recommends going to everybody masking in schools, our governor will follow that guidance. I’m in the same spot you are bianca42 . I kept my 11 year old home last year and don’t have that option for the fall unless I pull her out of the district which I kind of don’t want to do. I’m very nervous about sending her to middle school where virtually none of her peers in her grade will be vaccinated. Thankfully she is kind of a germaphobe and is pretty good about masking and she would absolutely be good about wearing one in school if it comes to that. The CDC has recommended just that. www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated-people-bn/index.html
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Post by TXMary on Jul 28, 2021 2:55:16 GMT
My Central Texas county just moved our COVID threat level to significant uncontrolled community transmission. I have been seeing more masks in the last week or so. There’s a very large teaching hospital here so we’re very much a medical community. That helps with people masking on their own. We have gone back to wearing masks in my family.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 28, 2021 2:58:40 GMT
What I was thinking when I read it…how do you think this will affect your school, in the area you are? I know you said you wouldn’t/couldn’t teach if you had to wear masks, understandably. How do you think it will play out for you? I know mask mandates aren’t allowed (thanks Abbot ), but do you think your kids in particular will be wearing them anyway? Most will. We have a highly educated population and many are employed in the med center. We have a few rich Republican types who will send their kids without masks. And we still have a percentage of kids who are never going to wear one successfully anyway, whether their parents want it or not. We will almost certainly have a segment who refuse to return in person and either withdraw their kids entirely or find some creative way to keep their kids at home and get work sent home for them (which creates another nightmare for all the teachers). As for me, if I can find something else to do that pays a similar amount, I’ll break my contract and go do that. I’ve been looking online and tweaking my resume for non-teaching stuff. Hopefully I only need it for a couple of years until the older one is done with college. Otherwise, I’ll go in and do the bare minimum. I’m just kinda done busting my butt serving the taxpayers of Texas at this point. They can bite me. (If enough kids withdraw that we lose a significant chunk of funding, the decision may be made for me. I might get pink slipped.) Missed this earlier! I wish you well, and hope you find someplace to land that you enjoy, even if you don’t get the fulfillment you did from teaching music. Definitely keep us posted.
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Post by MZF on Jul 28, 2021 2:59:55 GMT
My county is recommending masking again, regardless of vaccination status. Some places still require them. I've been carrying one in case it's crowded. I'm sure it'll be required again soon. They have already said all kids must wear them in school grades K-12 regardless of status.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 28, 2021 3:00:10 GMT
100% with you on this frustration. While I’m annoyed for myself, I’m especially annoyed on behalf of the college and school kids who have already sacrificed so much. I mean, the college kids should be able to go on as normal but with masks, right? Certainly in an environment where every person there is old enough to choose the vaccine for themselves, we’re not going to wring our hands over the unvaccinated to the point where we cancel classes. Because I’ll tell you what, as resistant as I am to another year of teaching from behind a mask, I’m way more resistant to paying full college tuition for two kids to take online-only classes. I really hope so. Another even semester or term of teaching and learning like that, especially when it just didn’t have to be like that for teachers and students, infuriates me - and I don’t even have kids in school or college.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2021 3:13:06 GMT
I was just at the store and there was this guy walking around coughing. I watched him cough and touch every bag of salad. Most was open cough, no attempt to cover. A couple times he coughed into his hand and then reached for something with the same hand.
I decided we didn't need salad for dinner. Then we waited for him to move on and then did a couple of aisle before we went back for the milk.
Yeah, I'm probably going back to masking
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 28, 2021 3:17:06 GMT
Many in CA are already requiring them. CA k-12 schools have to have masks inside, some districts/counties it is inside AND outside. I never stopped wearing mine inside. 🤷♀️ Much of the population can't be vaccinated yet. Whatever it takes to get numbers down and keep them low. My lovely district in CA is encouraging masks indoors for students but not requiring them. Students who refuse to wear them will not be sent home but will be allowed to stay in class on campus. How long do you think it will be until I’m the only masked one in my classroom? I’m fully vaccinated, my 10 and 5 year old are not. They have already been informed that they are expected to mask up.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 28, 2021 10:58:01 GMT
We're being told, in MA, to mask up if we're in a 'hot spot'. Right now Barnstable County (Cape Cod) is a hot spot due to an outbreak in P-Town.
I'm not going to be constantly tracking what's a hot spot and what's not. I'm just masking up. People will continue to tell me I don't need to and I will continue to thank them and go about my business. I wouldn't think my wearing a mask would bother so many people but from the amount of comments I get, I guess it does.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 28, 2021 11:18:55 GMT
I'm not going to be constantly tracking what's a hot spot and what's not. I'm just masking up. People will continue to tell me I don't need to and I will continue to thank them and go about my business. I wouldn't think my wearing a mask would bother so many people but from the amount of comments I get, I guess it does. This whole thing is a lose/lose situation. The same people who couldn't stay in lockdown, are the same people who refuse to mask and the same people telling everyone else to "live your life" and "stay home if you are scared", but then feel the need to comment or give dirty looks to people who are wearing masks. FFS.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 28, 2021 11:27:58 GMT
So we are moderate but going to Utah in a couple weeks and that county is "high." I was finally fine with flying but now ... I don't know. I wish I could easily pull up numbers from two different counties. You can. Just click on the state and the counties show up. I did that
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Post by amom23 on Jul 28, 2021 13:14:17 GMT
My county is only 39% vaccinated, but we also have no active cases and are listed as low risk. Masks aren't required and you won't find anybody wearing them. I fully expect the Delta variant to hit ND and my small county at some point this coming Fall and Winter, but there is no way a mask mandate will ever be put back in place.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 28, 2021 13:54:28 GMT
I'm not going to be constantly tracking what's a hot spot and what's not. I'm just masking up. People will continue to tell me I don't need to and I will continue to thank them and go about my business. I wouldn't think my wearing a mask would bother so many people but from the amount of comments I get, I guess it does. This whole thing is a lose/lose situation. The same people who couldn't stay in lockdown, are the same people who refuse to mask and the same people telling everyone else to "live your life" and "stay home if you are scared", but then feel the need to comment or give dirty looks to people who are wearing masks. FFS. Yep. And I refuse to engage. I say "thank you" and walk away. These are the people who will be the first ones screaming if we have to shut everything down again. Then I will want to be saying: IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!
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Post by nicolep on Jul 28, 2021 14:07:37 GMT
Substantial here but zero requirements. Rare to see anyone masking up anymore. Definitely not in the stores, restaurants etc. If you fell from space into my county, you'd never know there was a pandemic going on.
I was in the BMV the other day and as usual it was packed/standing-room-only and myself and one other gentleman and his two daughters were the only ones out of probably 50-60 people that were masked up...that includes the employees.
Our city school has stated that they willmake their decision by August 2nd but will follow county health department/state and CDC recommendations.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 28, 2021 14:19:00 GMT
My county is only 39% vaccinated, but we also have no active cases and are listed as low risk. Masks aren't required and you won't find anybody wearing them. I fully expect the Delta variant to hit ND and my small county at some point this coming Fall and Winter, but there is no way a mask mandate will ever be put back in place. It *might* if the hospitals get overwhelmed and the biggest hospital employers in most major cities complain openly again. That’s what it took last time. With the amount unvaxxed (especially in some counties) the likelihood of the hospitals getting overwhelmed again is higher here. Sadly 39% is actually comparatively decent, looking at some rural counties numbers here, especially in the more west you are.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 28, 2021 14:20:04 GMT
I'm not going to be constantly tracking what's a hot spot and what's not. I'm just masking up. People will continue to tell me I don't need to and I will continue to thank them and go about my business. I wouldn't think my wearing a mask would bother so many people but from the amount of comments I get, I guess it does. This whole thing is a lose/lose situation. The same people who couldn't stay in lockdown, are the same people who refuse to mask and the same people telling everyone else to "live your life" and "stay home if you are scared", but then feel the need to comment or give dirty looks to people who are wearing masks. FFS. Exactly. Assholes.
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