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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2021 21:58:00 GMT
I see now that there are several states - I am aware of the resistance to CRT, but I didn't realize that such laws had actually been passed. I wish there were a way for me to have civil and assuming-good-intent discussions across this political divide. I hear a lot of "THEY believe xyz..." (from both sides!) but I don't want to hear what one side THINKS the other side believes; I want to say directly what I believe, and I want to hear directly what someone across the aisle believes - no flame-throwing allowed. I really do want to understand, even if I ultimately disagree; I also want to be understood, even if the other party ultimately disagrees. Right now, I really don't understand. Read facebook comments in your local facebook groups to see what people believe. Or comments on news articles. I'm appalled every single day. I get maybe 5 in before I start to hate people
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 22:12:05 GMT
Read facebook comments in your local facebook groups to see what people believe. Or comments on news articles. I'm appalled every single day. Yep. It's not hard to understand what they believe. They tell us ALL THE TIME. In article after article they proudly state their (incorrect) beliefs about what America is/was and should be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 22:45:37 GMT
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Aug 4, 2021 22:54:05 GMT
"Here a Tennessee school district experience exemplifies wider patterns across the country. A parent insisted that the account of Ruby Bridges, as the first Black student to integrate New Orleans schools in 1960, is hurtful to white schoolkids. Bridges' account describes a "large crowd of angry white people who didn't want Black children in a white school." The parent insisted it failed to offer "redemption" for today's white children. She also objected to another book about school segregation, expressing disapproval of teaching words like "injustice" and "inequality" in "grammar lessons." A clip of Ruby Bridges' chilling experience shows a six-year-old girl being screamed at by a crowd of angry white people spitting and cursing at her. No white redemption on offer here." www.salon.com/2021/08/01/meet-christopher-rufo--leader-of-the-incoherent-right-wing-attack-on-critical-race-theory/Yes, heaven forbid we make white schoolkids uncomfortable. LEARNING ABOUT rocks and bottles being hurled at black school kids is about on par with the actual rocks and bottles hitting you, kwim?! Redemption for white kids? How’s this for redemption—they read the story and are absolutely appalled by the behavior of white people toward Ruby Bridges and other black kids who were just trying to go to school. They can’t imagine how horrible it was for Ruby and can’t imagine behaving that way themselves. That’s “redemption” because they recognize that behavior for what it was and can make sure history doesn’t repeat itself. And if they don’t feel that way and learn nothing from reading the book? Then I hope they DO feel awful “for being white.” If they show no remorse for the past wrongs that were inflicted on millions of people, they don’t deserve to feel “redeemed.”
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Post by sean&marysmommy on Aug 5, 2021 0:08:52 GMT
How would someone even teach history without encountering racism? It'd have to be dropped from the curriculum to avoid it.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 5, 2021 0:54:06 GMT
How would someone even teach history without encountering racism? It'd have to be dropped from the curriculum to avoid it. That’s is the point, they don’t want those things taught. They don’t want their children to be sympathetic or to have empathy. They want their children to be like them, racists. When *they* say the “American way of life” is disappearing fast they mean systemic racism is showing a few tiny cracks and they’ll do anything to save it.
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Post by mich5481 on Aug 5, 2021 1:07:54 GMT
Batshit, indeed. A friend of mine moved to Tennessee. and is amazed and not all in a good way. First as she stared at her neighbors confederate flag flying high... and that was just the start of the WTFs. Loves the weather and some other aspects of Tenn. of course but the cultural shock was (is) something to behold and ponder. A confederate flag! Oh boy. I saw a bunch of Confederate flags when I drove from NC to Richmond this weekend.
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Post by Zee on Aug 5, 2021 2:36:05 GMT
I saw more Confederate flags flying in PA than I have in GA.
I do see them here but mainly as a front license plate (we only have rear license plates) or decals on cars or whatever, not so much at houses.
But let me tell you how uncomfortable I was in the Stone Mountain gift shop...hoo boy. I went there having zero idea that there was a Confederate monument on the mountain! We were pretty shocked. We thought we were just going to a park.
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Post by sideways on Aug 5, 2021 3:30:22 GMT
White conservatives are terrified of kids learning the truth of this country’s history.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 5, 2021 3:49:35 GMT
White conservatives are terrified of kids learning the truth of this country’s history. Because they are losing a lot of the young ones as it is, teaching the truth will speed that up.
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Post by inkedup on Aug 5, 2021 4:26:49 GMT
"Here a Tennessee school district experience exemplifies wider patterns across the country. A parent insisted that the account of Ruby Bridges, as the first Black student to integrate New Orleans schools in 1960, is hurtful to white schoolkids. Bridges' account describes a "large crowd of angry white people who didn't want Black children in a white school." The parent insisted it failed to offer "redemption" for today's white children. She also objected to another book about school segregation, expressing disapproval of teaching words like "injustice" and "inequality" in "grammar lessons." A clip of Ruby Bridges' chilling experience shows a six-year-old girl being screamed at by a crowd of angry white people spitting and cursing at her. No white redemption on offer here." www.salon.com/2021/08/01/meet-christopher-rufo--leader-of-the-incoherent-right-wing-attack-on-critical-race-theory/Yes, heaven forbid we make white schoolkids uncomfortable. LEARNING ABOUT rocks and bottles being hurled at black school kids is about on par with the actual rocks and bottles hitting you, kwim?! Poor little snowflakes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 6:13:03 GMT
" All right, good evening, honorable mayor and city council, I’m here before you today to talk to you about the Equity Task Force’s final report.
Before I start on this presentation, though, I want to just talk about something that just happened in this chamber just at the start of the meeting. There was an individual who brought a rock to this meeting, proceeded to call me a sinner for being gay, accused me of spreading AIDS here in the community, accused me of blasphemy, and also of trying to say that I’m the second coming of Christ.
And I just want to start the meeting off kind of pointing to you that just having a conversation — a simple conversation about racism in our community — is gaining that level of violence, that threat of violence. So I would be remiss not to mention that. That’s… kind of the mentality I’m coming into this presentation with. Anyway, without further ado, let’s begin."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 12:53:11 GMT
Latest installment of people gone rage "Robin Steenman, an Air Force veteran and white mother of three, is fed up with the way public schools in her community of Franklin, Tennessee are teaching kids about race. She believes that the reading materials and teachers' manuals are biased, specifically the lessons taught to second graders about civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. Kids leave class believing that white people are oppressors and minorities are victims, Steenman claims. While her only school-age child attends private school, Steenman nevertheless wants the public system, Williamson County Schools, to change its approach. She and a group of local women calling themselves “Moms for Liberty” recently asked the Tennessee Department of Education in a complaint letter to force the district to scrap that material and overhaul its curriculum.... Critical race theory is an advanced concept rarely encountered outside law schools. It holds that racial bias is ingrained in U.S. laws and institutions, negatively impacting people of color. Educators say the lessons about race in most U.S. primary and secondary schools involve basic American history about slavery, post-slavery segregation and the long struggle for racial equality. Republican Governor Bill Lee, who signed the measure into law in late May, told reporters recently that critical race theory is "un-American." The law prohibits public schools from teaching that anyone is “privileged” due to their race - a reference to “white privilege,” a term derided in conservative circles. Lessons also cannot make students feel “discomfort, guilt [or] anguish” because of their race or sex.... Among the books Moms for Liberty deemed inappropriate are “Martin Luther King Jr. and the March on Washington” and “The Story of Ruby Bridges,” about the Black 6-year-old who integrated a Louisiana public school in 1960."www.reuters.com/world/us/critical-race-theory-roils-tennessee-school-district-2021-09-21/Yes, heaven forfend we should make white people feel "uncomfortable".
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