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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 14:30:47 GMT
So you know those videos going around where a mob goes crazy and acts like a spoiled teen toddler on steroids?
Well I spoke at one. Wasn't as crazy but had its moments.
I am part of a group for safe schools in my city and about 40 of us showed up. 25 of us spoke.
Due to previous issues at last months meeting, it was moved to a high school. PD was at the gate and we had to follow a gated path. At the entrance we could get our I am vaccinated sticker. Then we had to walk through metal detectors. Then we signed in to speak. The cards were time stamped and marked pro or against masks.
We were let in an hour before the meeting started to sit down.
The no mask, let them breathe group protested outside to Pink Floyd music.
The person who runs that group is crazy. He pointed a gun at Cuomo on IG, has shown off his weapons. And he showed up with a huge knife and got caught. 😳
When it was time for the pledge people didn't stand and his group went crazy. They yelled and barked to stand up. So much for freedom right?!
They were extremely rude and caused delays with the meeting. Our president had to hit the gavel a lot!
When the mask side spoke they booed us, laughed at us, heckled us, used derogatory words, interpreted us, and yelled over us. They also coughed on us.
It was so bad then when I spoke and heard what they were saying I began to shake and cry. But I finished my speech.
They belittled the board, made open threats that they were coming for them, and kept being told to put their masks on.
The guy who runs their side was going after one of our guys. A group came over, sat around him a d poured water on him.
We are upset PD and board did nothing. We are currently voicing our anger at it all.
When we got up to left they screamed at us and followed up so PD escorted us out to our cars.
They have since made fun of me and my group on social media.
These people think that the board can't call a motion or vote without them. They think they can just remove these people.
Their goal isn't masks/no masks orstudent safety. Their goal is to over take the smaller local boards. Then city. Then county, then state. They think they can get back to Trump land.
There is a bigger fight on our hands people. A huge one and we need to show up and support our boards who follow safety protocols and show up and VOTE.
We are already planning for next months meeting. Oh and our board unanimously voted for the cabinets safety plan!
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Post by volunteergirl on Aug 13, 2021 14:40:37 GMT
Reading that makes me physically ill. I am so sorry you had to endure that. How sad that our country gotten to this point.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 13, 2021 14:43:40 GMT
What was the reason he police were there if they weren't going to do anything? Wasn't their job to assist in keeping order? Someone was assaulted and they did nothing? Fucking useless cops.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 14:45:35 GMT
What was the reason he police were there if they weren't going to do anything? Wasn't their job to assist in keeping order? Someone was assaulted and they did nothing? Fucking useless cops. At last months meeting the other group banged on the doors or the board room, tried to get in, ripped down posters, and made threats. We think they didn't do much other than remove people to keep the peace and meeting going. As well as everyone I side safe. These people are nuts and our safety was at stake.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 13, 2021 14:50:41 GMT
Their goal isn't masks/no masks orstudent safety. Their goal is to over take the smaller local boards. Then city. Then county, then state. They think they can get back to Trump land. This is so true! What he unleashed is going to be near impossible to put back in the bottle.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 13, 2021 14:50:56 GMT
When groups are forming divide the group into smaller groups. Everyone does not have to go to every meeting. People get tired if that. Set up schedules for people to go alternate months so there is always a presence.
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Post by casii on Aug 13, 2021 14:53:03 GMT
I'm so very sorry you were subjected to that type of abuse as were your fellow group members.
As a grandparent of toddlers who can't get the vaccine, if my grandchildren get covid due to the selfish behaviors of vocal anti-maskers/antivaxxers, they have no idea what they will have unleashed. Grammie Bear will flip out on them. I suspect there will be many family members who will feel the same way I do.
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Post by natscraps on Aug 13, 2021 14:53:06 GMT
Thank you for standing up for the kids. What scared me is this behavior is being allowed and it’s becoming the norm. So many adults have become tantruming toddlers when they don’t get their way. They need to hear my favorite song I sing for my preschoolers “You don’t always get what you want!”
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Post by MorningPerson on Aug 13, 2021 14:59:18 GMT
There's a whole big chunk of humanity that I hate right now, and your story confirms that.
I'm so sorry you had to experience this, but damn, big respect to you for standing up and speaking. It reminds me of something I read long ago that I try to live by: "Speak your truth, even if your voice shakes." When I get angry my voice shakes and I sometimes end up crying, and I'm doing a whole lot more of that these days. But I won't be silenced, and I'm glad you won't either.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 13, 2021 15:11:19 GMT
There's a whole big chunk of humanity that I hate right now, and your story confirms that. I'm so sorry you had to experience this, but damn, big respect to you for standing up and speaking. It reminds me of something I read long ago that I try to live by: "Speak your truth, even if your voice shakes." When I get angry my voice shakes and I sometimes end up crying, and I'm doing a whole lot more of that these days. But I won't be silenced, and I'm glad you won't either. I hate to read your experience. In my opinion, you all were assulted and many of those people should have been arrested. This bullying mentality is going to keep other people from standing up for what THEY believe in.
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Post by Anita on Aug 13, 2021 15:21:07 GMT
Why the hell are they allowed to get away with that crap? Lock them up for public threats. Keep doing it! Good grief. I'm so sorry you had to experience that level of crazy.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 13, 2021 15:22:04 GMT
we have different arguments with the school board. (over 95% of our teens are vaccinated--we all wear masks). they kept schools closed "too long". they changed admission from a grades based high school to lottery. so there is a recall going on. but no one yells about masks.
(I don't have a big problem with them.. the voters didn't pay attention and this is what they got)
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Post by shamrock on Aug 13, 2021 16:03:20 GMT
I’m sorry that’s how it was. Thank you for speaking up.
Since last spring our school board has had security/police escort when at district events. They’ve been threatened and stalked. They’ve had people sit outside their homes protesting and following them. They’ve been told how to handle a gun shot by medical friends who are afraid for the boards safety. The threats keep escalating. But seems like as long as they are just threats nothing can be done.
The anti everything side (because that’s what they’ve become) used to get all the speaking spots because they were willing to go in public when the safety concerned didn’t want to bc of Covid. This last meeting they turned the tables and managed to grab 12 of the 20 spots to speak. The anti side is screaming that it was rigged. There will be more lawsuits, I’m sure, bc the board voted to mask k-12. The anti side sued a number of times last spring. People are awful.
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Post by edie3 on Aug 13, 2021 16:19:14 GMT
Thank you for speaking for the kids, and I hate that you went through that. What has our country become? Over a piece of fabric??
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 13, 2021 16:23:04 GMT
Their goal isn't masks/no masks or student safety. Their goal is to over take the smaller local boards. Then city. Then county, then state. They think they can get back to Trump land.^^^ THIS. I have heard story after story about this on the news, all over the country. This is important to pay attention to, and so SCARY to think about. I am so sorry that you had such a horrible experience, and that the police department did nothing when they acted the way they did.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 13, 2021 16:48:41 GMT
So you know those videos going around where a mob goes crazy and acts like a spoiled teen toddler on steroids? Well I spoke at one. Wasn't as crazy but had its moments. I am part of a group for safe schools in my city and about 40 of us showed up. 25 of us spoke. Due to previous issues at last months meeting, it was moved to a high school. PD was at the gate and we had to follow a gated path. At the entrance we could get our I am vaccinated sticker. Then we had to walk through metal detectors. Then we signed in to speak. The cards were time stamped and marked pro or against masks. We were let in an hour before the meeting started to sit down. The no mask, let them breathe group protested outside to Pink Floyd music. The person who runs that group is crazy. He pointed a gun at Cuomo on IG, has shown off his weapons. And he showed up with a huge knife and got caught. 😳 When it was time for the pledge people didn't stand and his group went crazy. They yelled and barked to stand up. So much for freedom right?! They were extremely rude and caused delays with the meeting. Our president had to hit the gavel a lot! When the mask side spoke they booed us, laughed at us, heckled us, used derogatory words, interpreted us, and yelled over us. They also coughed on us. It was so bad then when I spoke and heard what they were saying I began to shake and cry. But I finished my speech. They belittled the board, made open threats that they were coming for them, and kept being told to put their masks on. The guy who runs their side was going after one of our guys. A group came over, sat around him a d poured water on him. We are upset PD and board did nothing. We are currently voicing our anger at it all. When we got up to left they screamed at us and followed up so PD escorted us out to our cars. They have since made fun of me and my group on social media. These people think that the board can't call a motion or vote without them. They think they can just remove these people. Their goal isn't masks/no masks orstudent safety. Their goal is to over take the smaller local boards. Then city. Then county, then state. They think they can get back to Trump land. There is a bigger fight on our hands people. A huge one and we need to show up and support our boards who follow safety protocols and show up and VOTE. We are already planning for next months meeting. Oh and our board unanimously voted for the cabinets safety plan! They definitely want to take over. Can you imagine how crazy it would be? If the current crop of conservatives comes into power, this country will be a horror show. So VOTE, everyone. Vote like your life depends upon it. Because really, it does. These lunatics must be stopped.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2021 16:52:56 GMT
Their goal isn't masks/no masks or student safety. Their goal is to over take the smaller local boards. Then city. Then county, then state. They think they can get back to Trump land.^^^ THIS. I have heard story after story about this on the news, all over the country. This is important to pay attention to, and so SCARY to think about. I am so sorry that you had such a horrible experience, and that the police department did nothing when they acted the way they did. yup. It is terrifying
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 13, 2021 17:43:47 GMT
That’s crazy!
I’m worried about ours ok Monday but I don’t think it will be quite that crazy. But there is a post in the local parents group that is against masks, asking for hundreds of people to come with signs and noisemakers and whatever else they wanted. Along with passion for their kids. Should be interesting.
ETA that we recently had an equity audit (in December). But in June a group called Raise Our Standards came and presented. They have a Stop CRT toolkit and have gotten people riled up. I agree. They want to take over the country starting at the local level. It is very scary. People really need to start paying attention to who they are supporting locally.
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Post by smcast on Aug 13, 2021 18:08:02 GMT
Scary stuff!
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Post by msladibug on Aug 13, 2021 18:08:53 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 13, 2021 18:58:40 GMT
This is some of what we are up against. Do you want this in charge of your school board, your town, your county-or, well, anything?
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Post by laurasw on Aug 13, 2021 18:58:53 GMT
I'm so sorry you dealt with that! I would have never believed the state of this country and how so many adults are behaving if you would have told me twenty years ago. But here we are living it and it's shocking. You should be proud for not backing down.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 13, 2021 19:08:56 GMT
Thanks for standing up for the safety of young children. My district board meets tonight to address mask mandates. While I don’t think things will be this bad, I have my doubts about them instituting a mask mandate. What trump has done to this country is mind-boggling.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 13, 2021 19:09:00 GMT
Wow. I see posts on my local facebook that lead me to believe the same could happen where I live.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 13, 2021 19:23:48 GMT
Why the hell are they allowed to get away with that crap? Lock them up for public threats. Keep doing it! Good grief. I'm so sorry you had to experience that level of crazy. This makes me so angry! Some people will always try the bully tactics because they are not capable of having an intelligent conversation. Instead of voicing their concerns and reporting on statistics to try to sway the opposing side to their viewpoint, they make the whole thing so unpleasant in the hopes they win by volume and force. It is like a childish tantrum and should not be allowed. Why is the Board permitting this behavior? When our children acted like that, did we let them get away with it? Of course not. And we shouldn't allow the adults to either. Anyone who yells out, causes a disruption, or threatens others needs to be escorted out of the room by the police. If they refuse or escalate, arrest them for public disturbance. If this is done each and every time, the childish behavior will eventually stop. A Board meeting should have a respectful decorum. You cannot conduct business in such an out of control environment. I am proud of you for speaking, especially with such negative conditions. If both sides yelled out and tried to drown out their opposition, what would ever be accomplished? I am curious, did anyone from the safety side display any of this behavior? I hate people right now. I have never felt such hostility toward others. I am normally so peaceful with a live-and-let-live attitude, but witnessing so many bullies pushing their way just evokes a burst of anger in me that I am so not comfortable with. If I were attending your board meeting and was surrounded by these rabid people coughing on me, I would be pulling out my pepper spray and stun gun to keep them at a distance. And sadly, their children are witnessing this behavior and will repeat it for generations to come. When will it ever end? Maybe it is time to split the states into two separate countries so we can all live in peace. I predict the "anti everything" masks, vaccines, and science, people will eventually die out from the delta strain before too long. Until then, they can do away with all of the societal safety measures. No seatbelts in their cars. They can shop shirtless and shoeless. Talk on their cell phones while driving. No vaccines of any type - bring back polio, mumps, measles and all the harmful diseases. They can be as free as they want to be until they are struck down by disease or fly through the windshield. Looks like we will be needing a big wall to separate the states from each other. I have a feeling that once they are told they have no right or access to vaccines of any kind, or any of the safety or science-based items and information, they would riot over that too. This is all so out of control and does not make sense to me. And predominantly over a few inches of fabric worn as a courtesy to others as well as for self protection. Is it any wonder that I'm still on a self-enforced stay at home policy?
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Post by librarylady on Aug 13, 2021 20:35:09 GMT
Several years ago my first purchase for my Kindle was the book Boiling Mad.
Boiling Mad: Inside Tea Party America by Kate Zernike
It was about the Tea Party and how it was making inroads in American politics. The organizers taught the followers that to change, begin at the bottom with the smaller government "agencies" and get elected there, and then move to larger and larger populations to have influence. Begin with school boards, boards/committees within the city government, then city councils, state committees, state governments and then the national stage.......It worked and here we are today in American government and actions.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Aug 13, 2021 20:47:57 GMT
When DH and I were watching our local county commission discussing a masking order last week, I commented to him that it was interesting how all the anti-mask Quidiots were there to do their screaming in person (though they were kept in an anteroom from the commission and were effectively on a video feed), while nearly all of the pro-masking, pro-science public health advocates made their statements via zoom - many likely due to safety concerns. I'm thankful they still allow public comment by zoom and wish all other local governing bodies did as well.
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Post by tc on Aug 13, 2021 21:00:04 GMT
This is some of what we are up against. Do you want this in charge of your school board, your town, your county-or, well, anything? This scares the hell out of me.
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Post by laurasw on Aug 14, 2021 1:29:51 GMT
This is some of what we are up against. Do you want this in charge of your school board, your town, your county-or, well, anything? I don't even know what to say???
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Post by snugglebutter on Aug 14, 2021 3:02:19 GMT
This is some of what we are up against. Do you want this in charge of your school board, your town, your county-or, well, anything?
Gosh...... 800,000 children!
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