peabrain
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Post by peabrain on Aug 13, 2021 20:12:29 GMT
I was recently told that "You've got this" is not a positive comment at all and actually is incredibly toxic.
So I've stopped saying it, but I really don't know what else to say sometimes. I meant well in my comments. I'm not butt hurt over this or anything. I just wanted to know what you all think. Do you say "you've got this!"
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Post by littlemama on Aug 13, 2021 20:15:59 GMT
I dont like it and think it is overused, but if I did use it, I wouldnt stop because one person said it is not positive and is toxic.
How exactly does this person think it is toxic? It is meant to be encouraging.
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Post by melanell on Aug 13, 2021 20:24:26 GMT
I think there are some people who can find toxicity in nearly anything. And those who see it in almost nothing. I personally don't find that I use that phrase in day to day life very much, but it's certainly NOT because I find anything negative about it myself. It just doesn't happen to be a phrase that's caught hold in my brain. I think any positive saying can fall flat if said at the wrong time, and perhaps that's what's happened to this phrase from time to time. But in most situations, I think of it as being well-meaning and encouraging. Sure, if your boss just dumped the work of 3 people on you, smirked, and said "You got this!" as they walked off, that would be different. But if said with sincerity, I think one should at least see it as intending to be encouraging, even if they don't personally feel that way about it.
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craftykitten
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Post by craftykitten on Aug 13, 2021 20:31:59 GMT
I find it patronising and dismissive, personally. It’s often said to someone who is expressing a concern or worry about their capability to do something, so a cheery “you’ve got this” says that you’ve not listened to them at all. I don’t know that I’d describe it as toxic, but I think there are better ways to encourage people.
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Post by Monica* on Aug 13, 2021 20:34:18 GMT
I don't think it's toxic, but I don't use it. It kind of rubs me the wrong way. Upon reflecting why, I think it can be perceived as presumptive and perhaps underestimates the struggle or challenge. Maybe you don't "got this". Saying "you got this!" while well-meaning, seems trite.
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Post by Monica* on Aug 13, 2021 20:35:23 GMT
I find it patronising and dismissive, personally. It’s often said to someone who is expressing a concern or worry about their capability to do something, so a cheery “you’ve got this” says that you’ve not listened to them at all. I don’t know that I’d describe it as toxic, but I think there are better ways to encourage people. Yes! That's what I was trying to say.
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Post by auntkelly on Aug 13, 2021 20:35:47 GMT
I think the phrase “you’ve got this” is generally stated in a positive and encouraging manner. For example, it’s the kind of thing you might say to a friend who has been training hard for a 5k run and confides in you the day before the race that she is nervous. If she has trained hard and is looking to you for encouragement, I don’t see how saying “you’ve got this” could be considered toxic.
Like any phrase, it could come off as negative or toxic in certain circumstances. For example, if a friend was telling you that she felt like she needed professional help to deal with mental illness and you said “you don’t need help, you’ve got this,” then in that context the phrase would be negative.
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Post by Really Red on Aug 13, 2021 20:36:32 GMT
Another one for I don't love it, but I certainly see nothing wrong with it unless it's used in a dismissive way. I have heard it said beautifully so I don't see what's wrong. You can say pretty much anything and make it sound ugly.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Aug 13, 2021 20:39:49 GMT
There was a lot of "you got this"-ing during the gymnastics events at the Olympics. (This is why I can't play team sports. I don't like to yell "you got this" or "let's go".) I think they probably meant it along the lines of "you do this every day in practice, you can do it today too". I think if people are looking to get offended, they can find offense in anything.
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Post by katlady on Aug 13, 2021 21:13:47 GMT
I hear it alot, and use it too, mainly in a gym/sport setting. I view it as a form of encouragement. I never heard it being toxic.
Now, in a workplace, if you are dumped with a lot of work, then I could see how it could be a bit toxic. But, I can't recall this phrase ever being using in my workplace by a coworker or boss.
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Post by Merge on Aug 13, 2021 21:48:16 GMT
People have become more aware of potentially toxic positivity through the pandemic, as so many were tasked with the ridiculous and impossible to keep society going. When people would mention that they were stressed, overwhelmed, depressed, etc. to someone who was working or staying comfortably at home, the response “You got this” is incredibly tone deaf.
Healthcare and education get/got those kinds of toxic encouragements a lot. Working the equivalent if two jobs with no budget? “You got this!” Dealing with angry patients/parents? Tired of working long hours for low pay? “You’re not in it for the money, right? You all make such a difference!” Tired of putting yourself at risk while half the country acts like there is no pandemic? “You all are heroes!”
So a lot of it is simply time and place. “You got this” is appropriate for a friend or child needing a little encouragement in a normal situation. To someone articulating real problems and expressing anger and frustration about them, it’s dismissive and rude. We need to start validating each other’s concerns instead of dismissing them.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2021 21:52:12 GMT
I would not have thought of it as toxic.
I've used it.
Student teacher feeling a little nervous about their first day as a classroom teacher. Student feeling nervous about a test. Ds on the court...
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 13, 2021 21:53:51 GMT
I also find it patronizing and dismissive.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Aug 13, 2021 21:55:55 GMT
Why is it toxic?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 13, 2021 21:56:08 GMT
I really only say it during baseball games. But I’m having a hard time seeing it as negative.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 13, 2021 21:59:07 GMT
People have become more aware of potentially toxic positivity through the pandemic, as so many were tasked with the ridiculous and impossible to keep society going. When people would mention that they were stressed, overwhelmed, depressed, etc. to someone who was working or staying comfortably at home, the response “You got this” is incredibly tone deaf. Healthcare and education get/got those kinds of toxic encouragements a lot. Working the equivalent if two jobs with no budget? “You got this!” Dealing with angry patients/parents? Tired of working long hours for low pay? “You’re not in it for the money, right? You all make such a difference!” Tired of putting yourself at risk while half the country acts like there is no pandemic? “You all are heroes!” So a lot of it is simply time and place. “You got this” is appropriate for a friend or child needing a little encouragement in a normal situation. To someone articulating real problems and expressing anger and frustration about them, it’s dismissive and rude. We need to start validating each other’s concerns instead of dismissing them. I agree - it's similar to "kids are resilient" which has been so overused in the last 18 months to dismiss the very real challenges and frankly at this point is rage inducing.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2021 22:15:34 GMT
I find it patronising and dismissive, personally. It’s often said to someone who is expressing a concern or worry about their capability to do something, so a cheery “you’ve got this” says that you’ve not listened to them at all. I don’t know that I’d describe it as toxic, but I think there are better ways to encourage people. I never say this phrase so my opinion is limited. But I didn't think about this aspect of it until you said this. truth, sometimes we absolutely don't "got this." And no matter how hard we might try we don't. But unless someone is a complete 24/7 whiner I think that maybe you're right. The person is trying to express a concern and we should listen.
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Post by shessoaverage on Aug 13, 2021 22:16:30 GMT
I’m on several breast cancer support groups and see survivors saying this to newly-diagnosed people all the time. I take it to mean, “I’ve been in the same position and remember how overwhelming it was.” That doesn’t strike me as toxic. I think most people mean it in a supportive way.
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Post by amom23 on Aug 13, 2021 22:16:49 GMT
Holy shit now I can't say "You got this" to encourage my DS during a golf tournament? Not something I will be getting my undies in a wad over.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 13, 2021 22:22:45 GMT
People have become more aware of potentially toxic positivity through the pandemic, as so many were tasked with the ridiculous and impossible to keep society going. When people would mention that they were stressed, overwhelmed, depressed, etc. to someone who was working or staying comfortably at home, the response “You got this” is incredibly tone deaf. Healthcare and education get/got those kinds of toxic encouragements a lot. Working the equivalent if two jobs with no budget? “You got this!” Dealing with angry patients/parents? Tired of working long hours for low pay? “You’re not in it for the money, right? You all make such a difference!” Tired of putting yourself at risk while half the country acts like there is no pandemic? “You all are heroes!” So a lot of it is simply time and place. “You got this” is appropriate for a friend or child needing a little encouragement in a normal situation. To someone articulating real problems and expressing anger and frustration about them, it’s dismissive and rude. We need to start validating each other’s concerns instead of dismissing them. I agree - it's similar to "kids are resilient" which has been so overused in the last 18 months to dismiss the very real challenges and frankly at this point is rage inducing. I hate this one. This is used to justify whatever it is that is changing or uprooting a child. It is so that adults feel better about themaevws. Humans are mostly resilient. Children don't have a corner on that, sometimes it is just that they don't know how or feel they can't express their feelings.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 13, 2021 22:24:21 GMT
I agree with it being over used and really not helpful like said above. Esp with healthcare this year.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2021 22:29:48 GMT
I agree - it's similar to "kids are resilient" which has been so overused in the last 18 months to dismiss the very real challenges and frankly at this point is rage inducing. I hate this one. This is used to justify whatever it is that is changing or uprooting a child. It is so that adults feel better about themaevws. Humans are mostly resilient. Children don't have a corner on that, sometimes it is just that they don't know how or feel they can't express their feelings. I hate it because resilience is a skill that must either be taught to a child or learned on your own as an adult. There are plenty of people out there just going through the motions of life and not really living. There are a lot of people who have never dealt with certain kinds of adversities that others do. Resilience isn't inborn. Children are not resilient. They are absolutely taking in all that trauma. What they do with it, that's the question.
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Post by MrsDepp on Aug 13, 2021 22:43:35 GMT
I agree with cmpeter. I do not like this phrase.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 13, 2021 22:51:15 GMT
I think since I first started hearing it for sports I’ve always thought of it as another way to say “you can do this” to bolster their belief in their strength and ability, so I never considered that it could be dismissive in other situations. And I’ve personally never taken it in a negative manner when people use it with me (in all non-sports related circumstances ). So this thread is helpful for me, thanks! Now I’m off to obsess over when I might have used it and made some feel like I’ve dismissed them.
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Post by Just T on Aug 13, 2021 23:05:37 GMT
Children are not resilient. They are absolutely taking in all that trauma. What they do with it, that's the question. I have thought about this so often. I wonder what the kids who experienced this trauma of Covid upsetting their little worlds will be like as adults due to what they went through. I don't hate the phrase "you got this!" but I don't love it either. It's not something I say, mainly because when it has been said to me, it sounds dismissive. Like others have said, when you are telling someone about something you are going through or worried about and the person says, "you got this!" it does feel like they are blowing off whatever I am trying to tell them I am feeling. Recently, my coworkers and I had to video tape a long training workshop that we normally teach live. I hate being in front of a camera, and I was nervous about it. I know the material like the back of my hand because I've been teaching my workshops for years. The day I was recording, I told one of my coworkers I was nervous, and when she said You got this! I took it in the spirit of encouragement she meant it. To me that is different than having someone say it to you when you are upset about something. I am not a person who gets easily offended, and I often read threads here where people talk about things people say that upset them and think how that wouldn't bother me at all. But for some reason, this one bugs me. Maybe because it is so overused, it has just become a rote thing to say? I don't know.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 13, 2021 23:08:34 GMT
BFF and I encourage each other with this. You can do it or you’ve got this. It’s only on something I know she can do. Only.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 13, 2021 23:14:01 GMT
Holy shit now I can't say "You got this" to encourage my DS during a golf tournament? Not something I will be getting my undies in a wad over. I don’t think anyone is saying that, rather most are saying that it depends on the situation. Those that only specified that they found it dismissive, etc…how would that term apply in your situation? IMHO you’re ‘safe’ to use it as you are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 23:20:17 GMT
I've only ever heard it used in the form of encouragement. Someone sitting a test/exam or a similar challenge and having doubt about whether they will pass or attain the marks etc. How is that not being positive and toxic?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 13, 2021 23:26:41 GMT
I've only ever heard it used in the form of encouragement. Someone sitting a test/exam or a similar challenge and having doubt about whether they will pass or attain the marks etc. How is that not being positive and toxic? It might be cultural because I say it to amblet all the time and we encourage each other that way. There may be whining involved especially if she doesn’t want to do something like get up for a night shift but we use it for positive encouragement.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 13, 2021 23:27:52 GMT
“You’ve got this, mama!” And “hang in there!” Are two phrases I would love to never hear again. I’m not your mama, I didn’t give birth to you so don’t call me that.
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