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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 20:21:55 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 20:23:33 GMT
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 16, 2021 20:31:29 GMT
Biden is delivering a strong speech. It’s worth listening to. Agreed. Unfortunately it'll be overshadowed by partisan politics and insults. True. But this withdrawal has widespread support. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 16, 2021 20:32:32 GMT
Well the first to call for use of 25th amendment..
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 20:35:04 GMT
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Post by pinklady on Aug 16, 2021 20:41:06 GMT
Well the first to call for use of 25th amendment.. The scummy vile republicans care more about what's happening in Afghanistan than they do in their own country. January 6th proved republicans=taliban! The only difference is that our checks and balances were able to stop the American Taliban...this time. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 16, 2021 20:50:02 GMT
Well the first to call for use of 25th amendment.. The scummy vile republicans care more about what's happening in Afghanistan than they do in their own country. January 6th proved republicans=taliban! The only difference is that our checks and balances were able to stop the American Taliban...this time. They only care because they see it as a chance to rip on Biden. They don’t care about immigrants from South America and what they go through. Why would they now care about people in Afghanistan? Especially with what they say about Muslims? |
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Post by wellway on Aug 16, 2021 20:50:39 GMT
I’m so sorry for the people of Afghanistan. Was the U. S. The only country helping them? History of U.K.'s involvement www.gov.uk/government/publications/uks-work-in-afghanistan/the-uks-work-in-afghanistanEuropean Union From link below The European Union (EU) has a long-term commitment to support the people of Afghanistan on their path towards peace, security and prosperity. Since 2002, the EU has provided more than €4 billion in development aid to Afghanistan, which makes Afghanistan the largest beneficiary of EU development assistance in the world. The EU's overall strategic objectives in the implementation of development aid in Afghanistan are defined by the 2014-2020 Multiannual Indicative Programme, which focuses on 3 priority sectors: Peace, stability and democracy Sustainable growth and jobs Basic social services. ec.europa.eu/international-partnerships/where-we-work/afghanistan_en |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 20:58:34 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 16, 2021 21:03:18 GMT
I agree with the withdrawal but you’re saying Trump started the withdrawal? Please explain how you’re laying this at Trump’s feet. June 22, 2011: Obama announces troop draw downs to begin in Afghanistan. May 27, 2014: Obama announces plan for full troop withdrawal from Afghanistan by end of 2016. Aug. 21, 2017: President Donald Trump cautions against "hasty" troop withdrawal from Afghanistan that "would create a vacuum." Trump said that he shares Americans' "frustration" with foreign wars, assures that "we are not nation-building again; we are killing terrorists." www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/15/timeline-afghanistans-history-and-us-involvement/8143131002/What I do hold Trump responsible for is that he allowed the release of many of the fighters that are responsible for the take over you see before you. What is the stance of other middle Eastern countries in regards to how things have been in Afghanistan? Do they support the Taliban? I was just wondering if it would be better for other middle Eastern countries to have a bigger role in the country since they seem to have a better understanding of the culture, religion, and way of life? |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 21:08:46 GMT
Well David, I guess his crystal ball wasn’t working that day…..
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Post by lindas on Aug 16, 2021 21:16:45 GMT
Well David, I guess his crystal ball wasn’t working that day….. He didn’t need a crystal ball, he needed good intel. Either he didn’t get it or he ignored it, we’ll never know. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 16, 2021 21:21:22 GMT
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 16, 2021 21:25:00 GMT
Well David, I guess his crystal ball wasn’t working that day….. He didn’t need a crystal ball, he needed good intel. Either he didn’t get it or he ignored it, we’ll never know. I was hoping he'd take more responsibility for the timing of the pull-out. There are so many Afghanis who helped out American efforts in Afghanistan that have virtually no way out of the country. The embassy is closed so what is their means to apply for asylum? I agree that we had to get out- it was time, but the way we went about it is shameful to me. |
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 16, 2021 21:31:58 GMT
He didn’t need a crystal ball, he needed good intel. Either he didn’t get it or he ignored it, we’ll never know. I was hoping he'd take more responsibility for the timing of the pull-out. There are so many Afghanis who helped out American efforts in Afghanistan that have virtually no way out of the country. The embassy is closed so what is their means to apply for asylum? I agree that we had to get out- it was time, but the way we went about it is shameful to me. Tactically/logistically the airport is probably a much better option then the embassy. However the US leaving the embassy certainly sent a political image/message that’s horrifying and certainly exacerbating the difficulties of the situation. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 16, 2021 21:47:25 GMT
Several vets have said that they have provided lists of names for SIVs to the government. So they know many of those who need to be rescued if they could possibly make it to the American authorities on site!
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Post by lindas on Aug 16, 2021 22:05:02 GMT
Several vets have said that they have provided lists of names for SIVs to the government. So they know many of those who need to be rescued if they could possibly make it to the American authorities on site! It’s been reported that the Taliban has the list of Afghans who assisted the US and are going door to door looking for them. If true we can only hope they can make it to the airport before their door comes crashing in. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 16, 2021 22:16:57 GMT
Several vets have said that they have provided lists of names for SIVs to the government. So they know many of those who need to be rescued if they could possibly make it to the American authorities on site! It’s been reported that the Taliban has the list of Afghans who assisted the US and are going door to door looking for them. If true we can only hope they can make it to the airport before their door comes crashing in. Disgusting!! |
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Post by gar on Aug 16, 2021 23:06:57 GMT
I’m so sorry for the people of Afghanistan. Was the U. S. The only country helping them? I’m not certain but I believe Canada, Australia among others had troops in Afghanistan. |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 16, 2021 23:21:07 GMT
From the American Taliban:
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 16, 2021 23:40:44 GMT
From the American Taliban:  She is a complete moron. |
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Post by Just T on Aug 16, 2021 23:42:22 GMT
From the American Taliban: Wow. Yeah, the Taliban are freaking awesome. What a complete a$$hole she is. |
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Post by Laurie on Aug 17, 2021 0:19:11 GMT
I don’t blame Biden.
I don’t blame Trump…on this
I don’t blame Obama.
We tried to help and do right by them for many years and it unfortunately was time to step back.
JFC what I am tired of is the need for both sides to point fingers. Why does every. fucking. thing. need to have someone to blame. This is what pisses me off the most about society today. No one could just say we tried to help and do the right thing but after 20 years they need to fight for themselves. Nope instead it is scramble to hurry up and place blame.
I have no faith that we the American people will ever be able to all get along because this just shows that we have to blame the other guy.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 17, 2021 0:57:54 GMT
JFC what I am tired of is the need for both sides to point fingers. Why does every. fucking. thing. need to have someone to blame. This is what pisses me off the most about society today. No one could just say we tried to help and do the right thing but after 20 years they need to fight for themselves. Nope instead it is scramble to hurry up and place blame. If the time and effort spent placing blame was instead focused on providing humanitarian aid, or researching and proving easy access and information for others to aid the Afghan people, what a difference that could make. Instead, we’ve got this. |
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Post by kiera on Aug 17, 2021 1:50:24 GMT
I'm disheartened by the fact that her tweet has over 12,000 likes
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Post by casii on Aug 17, 2021 1:55:42 GMT
From the American Taliban: I reported her tweet. She is a shame to her state and country. |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 17, 2021 3:35:42 GMT
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 17, 2021 4:09:45 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 17, 2021 4:13:02 GMT
Really Texas, you can do so much better with your senators then the two you have.
I have to admit I was a little shocked to see we had troops in Taiwan until I saw there hadn’t been any there for decades.
And what a dumb ass reason for us keeping troops in a hostile country with no reason for us to be there.
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 17, 2021 4:26:27 GMT
Really Texas, you can do so much better with your senators then the two you have. I have to admit I was a little shocked to see we had troops in Taiwan until I saw there hadn’t been any there for decades. And what a dumb ass reason for us keeping troops in a hostile country with no reason for us to be there. Kind of have to wonder how many of his immediate family members are serving in any of those locations? And have been for the last 20 years? |
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