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Post by katlady on Aug 29, 2021 20:31:33 GMT
This is probably a generational question, maybe regional. When you hear "coffee shop" what do you think of? When I was growing up, coffee shops were basically diners. They served sit-down meals, usually comfort foods. And of course coffee and often pies. A much younger friend saw a "coffee shop" and thinking they were just going to order drinks to go, were surprised to find it was a full-service restaurant. ETA - Here is a link to one of the more famous ones in Los Angeles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnie%27s_Coffee_Shop#/media/File:Johnie_coffee_shop.jpg
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Post by busy on Aug 29, 2021 20:37:02 GMT
To me a coffee shop is a coffee-focused establishment. Espresso, drip, iced, pour over, etc. Quality and variety of coffee matters. Food is secondary, almost certainly includes bakery items. May have some light lunch and dinner options as well. Probably a selection of teas. Most open from pretty early in the morning to the end of the workday, but some are open evening hours and have live music, etc. Mix of people there for social reasons and remote workers. Lots of people just getting drinks to go but lots staying too (you know, in normal times).
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Post by katlaw on Aug 29, 2021 20:41:50 GMT
If you invited me to meet you at a coffee shop I would expect a variety of coffees and teas. Muffins, doughnuts and an assortment of baking. I would not expect to be able to eat a meal there and would not expect there to be a kitchen where they cooked meals. I would also not expect a waitress or waiter.
If you invited me to a cafe I would expect more what you described. Alberta Canada here
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Post by christinec68 on Aug 29, 2021 20:48:42 GMT
To me a coffee shop is a small diner with a more limited menu than I typically see at a diner.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Aug 29, 2021 20:50:28 GMT
I would expect a place somewhat similar to a Starbucks. Main focus on coffee and tea drinks, with light snacks and pastries available. Simple table and chairs and perhaps an outdoor seating area. No waitresses, no full kitchen. Like busy mentioned, a mix of people from people working on laptops, moms on a break, groups of friends just hanging out. No rush to vacate the table/seats like I would feel in a diner or restaurant. What you describe is what we would call a diner, something similar to a Waffle House or Denny's.
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Post by greendragonlady on Aug 29, 2021 20:51:14 GMT
If you invited me to meet you at a coffee shop I would expect a variety of coffees and teas. Muffins, doughnuts and an assortment of baking. I would not expect to be able to eat a meal there and would not expect there to be a kitchen where they cooked meals. I would also not expect a waitress or waiter. Same
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 29, 2021 20:53:16 GMT
It used to mean a diner to me, but with the rise of Starbucks, it’s meaning changed to mean coffee drinks as the main product of the store.
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Post by Zee on Aug 29, 2021 20:58:32 GMT
To me a coffee shop plays music, usually some kind of jazz, often live at certain times if it's not a chain coffee shop, and has coffee and bakery items and people on laptops.
What you're describing is what we'd call a diner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 21:03:10 GMT
Specialty coffee beans they grind themselves.
Variety of coffee drinks.
Pastries, sandwiches, soups, and salads offered.
Variety of teas as well.
Small, quaint atmosphere with local art on the wall.
Local musicians who play there.
Outdoor seating as well.
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Post by kate on Aug 29, 2021 21:12:51 GMT
It's one of those things I'd have to clarify, unless it was obvious from the context. There are still plenty of diner-like places around here that have "Coffee Shop" as part of their name. I'd probably ask, "Like a diner coffee shop, or like a Starbucks coffee shop?" LOL
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 29, 2021 21:28:01 GMT
Growing up a coffee shop was nothing fancy. You could maybe get regular or decaf coffee and black tea? It was a sit down, table service place and many were only open for breakfast and lunch. They are plenty still around although they might have upped the coffee choices to include basic espressos, etc. I don't think I've ever heard Starbucks or other counter service places called coffee shops.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 29, 2021 21:29:39 GMT
I envision the shop where the characters on Seinfield used to hang out.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 29, 2021 21:30:16 GMT
Something like Starbucks.
Where you walk in and get coffee at a counter. They might have a few tables and a few quick food items, but there’s no waiters and no big kitchen where there’s a cook at a grill.
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Post by Merge on Aug 29, 2021 21:30:21 GMT
There’s an older coffee shop not far from me that is more like a diner, and another that definitely serves more than the usual pastry/donut fare (full kitchen with large breakfast and lunch menu) with counter service and more of a modern coffee shop vibe. But generally I think something similar to Starbucks.
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Post by peabay on Aug 29, 2021 21:33:39 GMT
To me, it's both - any Starbucks like establishment, but also a certain type of diner. It's not your typical diner, it's a specific type that serves their takeout coffee in blue and white cups and has more of a counter service than tables.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 29, 2021 21:56:16 GMT
To me a coffee shop is Starbucks and all the non-chain equivalents. Coffee/tea plus cookies/muffins/etc. I'm not sure it's generational because I'm old and I don't think we ever had anything in Pittsburgh that I called a "coffee shop". We'd sometimes go get a drink and a slice of pie at Eat 'N Park but no one would have called that a coffee shop.
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Post by rickmer on Aug 29, 2021 22:01:08 GMT
a coffee shop to me has coffee, tea, lattes, espresso etc.... maybe some bottled fancy cold-pressed drinks, baked goods and if they do serve lunch/meals i would expect sandwiches (maybe or maybe not pre-made), maybe already prepared quiche or similar that can be easily re-heated.
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Post by Sanibel on Aug 29, 2021 22:10:58 GMT
Central Perk on Friends.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 29, 2021 23:56:21 GMT
A coffee shop is a place where most people go to get coffee and something to eat with it. Muffins, cakes, and then possibly other types of food depending. People go and sit around and talk or read.
A coffee house is similar but has music or performers, generally in the evenings.
A tea shop or tea house is like a coffee house but they mostly serve teas.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 30, 2021 0:23:30 GMT
It used to mean a diner to me, but with the rise of Starbucks, it’s meaning changed to mean coffee drinks as the main product of the store. This.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 30, 2021 0:40:58 GMT
A place where you sit down snd enjoy a beverage, usually coffee.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 30, 2021 1:08:54 GMT
Here in Australia, a coffee shop would be somewhere you can order a coffee and they would also have a selection of cakes and pastries. You can either take away or sit down in the shop.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Aug 30, 2021 6:13:22 GMT
Growing up a coffee shop was small diner or restaurant, where one could get coffee(or other basic beverage) and pie/dessert or a full meal (usually burgers, meatloaf, fried chicken, soup of the day, fish n chips, breakfast, chef salad, etc...). Where you sit at a table and order and the food is brought to you.
Nowadays, it's a chain type (Starbucks, Dutch Bros, etc...) or independant (similar to the coffee shop on TV show Friends), where one can have basic or fancy coffee or tea and an assortment of bottles beverages(water, juice, etc...) and small simpler convenience type food items(pastries, sandwiches, wraps, fruit and yougurt type cups, etc... not a full cooked type meal. Most places >> Where you wait in line to order, then pick up your items at the pickup counter, and take it to your table. A few independent places >> Sometimes a staff member that takes the order and brings your items to the table. Otherwise they are counter service only.
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Post by PaperAngel on Aug 30, 2021 6:31:25 GMT
(*whispers*) A place to avoid, so to evade whiffs of the brew (*ducks to avoid thrown cups*)
Coffee shop = Starbucks or non-chain equivalent = a place that serves coffee, teas, pastries, etc.
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Post by claire on Aug 30, 2021 6:39:25 GMT
I am Dutch, and when I think of coffeeshops, I don’t think about coffee. Because over here, “a coffeeshop is an establishment where the sale of cannabis for personal consumption by the public is tolerated by the local authorities.” (Wikipedia)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 9:21:46 GMT
A coffee shop in the UK is somewhere that serves coffee/teas or non alcohol drinks such as sodas together with cakes, cookies and possibly sandwiches. Similar to Starbucks or Costa. No meals. The same for a Tea Room I would expect nothing more than a traditional afternoon tea or tea and cake. Tea rooms do serve coffee too. Your equivalent of a diner would be our cafes where you can have a basic meal or just a coffee/tea on its own.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Aug 30, 2021 13:19:10 GMT
It used to mean a diner to me, but with the rise of Starbucks, it’s meaning changed to mean coffee drinks as the main product of the store. Me too. Although if I am in Amsterdam, a coffee shop is a whole 'nother thing
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 30, 2021 13:20:05 GMT
It used to mean a diner to me, but with the rise of Starbucks, it’s meaning changed to mean coffee drinks as the main product of the store. That is what I think, too.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 30, 2021 13:22:05 GMT
Starbucks.
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