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Post by melanell on Feb 2, 2022 0:33:29 GMT
I'd be there already seated and ready to go before 10am. If that meeting didn't start at exactly 10am, it definitely wouldn't be because I held things up.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 2, 2022 1:09:17 GMT
I've worked in two different settings. In education, meetings started on time. We couldn't go over because kids were going to be coming in the door and our rooms had to be covered. Even after school, meetings started on time. If you came in late, everyone noticed. To be fair, people had duties and parents dropped in and just had to talk to you, so sometimes if you were late, it was hard to avoid.
When I worked in a business, we often waited if the meeting was online (long before Covid-everyone was from all over the US). If in person, people were a bit better about being on time unless they were higher up and then we were expected to wait.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Feb 2, 2022 1:12:45 GMT
Early is on time, on time is late and late is unacceptable.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 2, 2022 1:13:45 GMT
I disagree - I think if you are supposed to start at 10am that’s what time you walk in the building. Really? You expect to be paid for the time in taking your coat off, possibly walk up a flight or more than one flight, of stairs to a staff room to put away your personal property, visit the ladies room if need be and make your way to your desk or working area/department. I started working at 14 and it was expected that when I clocked in, I was walking right to my shift. Anything that was personal was done on my own time. |
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Feb 2, 2022 1:23:35 GMT
When I worked in an office setting we would get to the meeting at least 5-10 minutes before, get settled and be ready for the meeting to start at 10.
Unless you are stuck on a customer call etc, there is no reason to interrupt everyone walking in at 10:01
Most places I worked, bosses expected to actually start working at say 8:30 not walking in, taking off your coat, getting coffee at 8:30.
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Post by cmpeter on Feb 2, 2022 1:27:19 GMT
I think there is a big discrepancy between folks who work in an office and have back to back meetings vs. those who have a meeting or two a day or week.
At work...on time is on time. You can't be early because your last meeting will still be running or the conference room is being used by a prior group.
Totally true when my kids were playing sports in high school. So very untrue in my work life.
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Post by tincin on Feb 2, 2022 1:56:12 GMT
Nothing is more annoying to me than waiting on a habitually late person. Apparently their time is more valuable than anyone else’s time.
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Post by katiekaty on Feb 2, 2022 2:02:08 GMT
Do your socializing outside in the hall but be in the chair seated and ready at 10. It’s not necessary to be there any earlier but not later than 10. Don’t take up the time from that point on socializing. 10 is when the meeting starts, not when greetings and gossiping starts. If I am in charge of the meeting those who get there to early, kind of get in the way. They cannot adequately help set up and usually distract or hinder. Again socialize, catch up outside of the meeting room and the come in shortly before and be prepared to get started promptly at 10. So if you get there at 9:59 or 10:00 you’re good!10:01 and you’re late.
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Feb 2, 2022 8:19:48 GMT
But who wants to take the time to change the time from 10:00 to 10:05? It's actually kind of a pain because it will automatically adjust the end time for a 1 hour meeting to 11:05, so you then have to change that one back to 11:00 as well. My work has set our calendar to default meetings to a 5 min earlier finish time, so a 10-10:30 meeting is actually scheduled as 10-10:25, and a 10-11 meeting is 10-10:55. I often have back to back meetings, so it's not uncommon for me to join a meeting right as it's starting, but my company is also notorious for having a "we'll just give everyone a couple more minutes join" mentality that drives me crazy, although I think many of the calls I'm on do that as we are in so many different time zones and countries and social norms vary. In my department we try to start our meetings on time, so while we're online someone will usually open the call a couple of mins before the start time, and in person, we inevitably end up standing outside the meeting room waiting for whoever is currently in the room to finish their running overtime meeting. |
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 2, 2022 12:09:56 GMT
At all the jobs I’ve had that had a start/end time, it literally says in the employee handbook that you will be counted late (and you get a certain number of lates before you’re fired) if you are walking in the building at your start time. You need to be in the building with your stuff put away before your start time, so that you start working at your start time. That is the HR standard I have heard from every single employer. good to know - I’ve never worked somewhere like that. Even now it’s extremely flexible when people logon and start working - the norm is around 9am but it ranges anywhere from 8am-9:30am. This is us. We’re not paid to have our behinds sitting in our chairs from 8:30-4:30, we’re paid to get our work done. There are only six of us in our organization and the culture is one of extreme grace. Our director says “we’re all adults here” and we’re not tracked at all when in the building. We get in between 8:30 and 9:00 and there’s lots of getting coffee and chatting. I get up every two hours to walk around the building. When the weather is nice, I’ll sit outside in the sun if I need a break. I love it. |
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Post by worldwanderer75 on Feb 2, 2022 12:14:36 GMT
I HATE being late. I always tell my kids I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late. I'd definitely be ready and seated by 9:55. (Kind of ironic as I was voted most likely to be late to my own funeral in HS)
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Post by artbabe on Feb 2, 2022 12:35:48 GMT
When I was a waitress, worked retail, etc., you had to start working the minute your starting time was- all personal stuff had to be done earlier.
As a teacher, my report time is when I have to be in the building. We definitely get a cup of coffee, chat, etc. before the kids get there.
For in person meetings I try to be 5 minutes early. For Google Meets I join at exactly the posted time.
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Post by pancakes on Feb 2, 2022 12:41:23 GMT
At all the jobs I’ve had that had a start/end time, it literally says in the employee handbook that you will be counted late (and you get a certain number of lates before you’re fired) if you are walking in the building at your start time. You need to be in the building with your stuff put away before your start time, so that you start working at your start time. That is the HR standard I have heard from every single employer. good to know - I’ve never worked somewhere like that. Even now it’s extremely flexible when people logon and start working - the norm is around 9am but it ranges anywhere from 8am-9:30am. Just wanted to say same here — Save for a first thing in the morning meeting, we could traipse in whenever we wanted, as long as it wasn’t something ridiculous. Even now that I’m remote permanently, it doesn’t matter. We all start early some days and have occasional late days. This has been the case for every job I’ve had since I graduated college. And all have been office/desk type jobs. |
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