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Post by sideways on Feb 9, 2022 20:51:02 GMT
But those who vote for Republicans chose to do so. No amount of district gerrymandering or voter suppression laws are forcing people to vote for Republicans, they chose to do so. They chose to vote for bad behavior which I will never understand. I mean I could understand if the Republicans running for office actually offered the voters a genuine reason to vote for them over the Democrats, but they donât and as long as they win elections they never will offer voters genuine reasons to vote for them. I mean why do the work if they donât have to. You haven't listened to me. The voters who elect those Republicans think that stopping runaway Democratic policies, especially far left/progressive policies *IS* a genuine reason to earn their vote over a Democratic candidate. They want someone to act as an obstacle to ensure more balanced legislation is passed. Apparently, you donât realize that American politics has moved so far right that what you are describing as far left/progressive policies are actually more centrist policies. When republicans say they want something âbalancedâ, they mean they want it their way with no compromise.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 9, 2022 21:06:29 GMT
This is a lot of the reason people vote Republican here. They see them as a check and balance on radical left policies being implemented. Thatâs all that matters. I donât agree with it, but to them it is a genuine reason. But canât the same be said of people who vote Democratic, to keep the far right in check. Im sure thatâs part of it, but I think they mostly vote for stated democrat policies. I cant think of a Republican federal policy currently (except keeping the radical left in check) that is a reason additionally to vote that way. Maybe RvW but again, thatâs a check issue.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 9, 2022 21:08:39 GMT
This is a lot of the reason people vote Republican here. They see them as a check and balance on radical left policies being implemented. Thatâs all that matters. I donât agree with it, but to them it is a genuine reason. So where's the balance? All they want to do is check. There isnât any. But thatâs how they see it. And (to them) itâs a perfectly valid reason for their vote. EDIT To be clear, Iâm not agreeing with this stance, merely pointing this is a way of thinking, one they believe to be perfectly valid. Just agreeing this wonât work, because those representatives ARE doing what they feel they elected to them to do. I am in a minority district, and I donât feel they are, but it doesnât really matter in the least what I think as long as the majority are still electing them. Iâm sure there are a few minority voters in Onelasttimes district who feel that way about the representatives she is perfectly happy with. I think she forgets what itâs like to be on the minority end of the stick, and not have representatives that you feel are working for you. If I saw these representatives working to compromise then Iâd feel much more recognized by them, than I do.
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 9, 2022 21:11:20 GMT
So where's the balance? All they want to do is check. When your party isn't in power, you can do little more than serve as a check. The Democrats control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency- Republicans have very little leverage. We'll see what happens after the 2022 elections, as I suspect Republicans will regain at least 1 chamber - that's been the historical trend for midterm elections. I absolutely disagree with this. Thatâs not how it is supposed to work, compromise and give and take used to be a thing, not blocking entirely without compromise, by way of checking.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 9, 2022 21:24:19 GMT
This is a lot of the reason people vote Republican here. They see them as a check and balance on radical left policies being implemented. Thatâs all that matters. I donât agree with it, but to them it is a genuine reason. But canât the same be said of people who vote Democratic, to keep the far right in check. Maybe in the past, but not recently. During the Trump administration, there wasnât anything to block except for judicial nominations and a tax cut for millionaires. Thatâs it. The Republicans didnât pass any significant legislation except for the tax cuts in 2017.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 9, 2022 21:33:32 GMT
There are people who vote for the opposite party to keep the majority party in check. Thatâs part of the reason why midterm elections donât go well for the majority party. I donât agree, but people do vote that way. I feel badly for Democrats in deep blue states who might think their vote doesnât count. They donât support the Republicans but are stuck with ass hats like MTG or Ted Cruz. Itâs not a secret that I despise what the Republicans are doing. Mitch McConnell has abused the filibuster and taken obstructionism to an entirely new level. In President Obama's first term, McConnell bragged about making him a one term president. In his 2nd term, McConnell refused to bring a Supreme Court nomination to a vote with 11 months left on his term. Then we all know what he did to ram through ACB's nomination with just 45 days before the election. In some states, people had already started voting. When President Obama was in office, McConnell wanted the people to have a voice, but he denied that to voters during Trump's presidency. McConnell hasn't said that he wants to make Biden a one term president, but that's essentially what he's doing. He filibustered voting rights and measures that previously had strong bipartisan support, every Republican with the exception of Lisa Murkowski voted against it. McConnell played chicken with the debt ceiling and refused to raise it, despite the fact that it was necessary, in part, to pay for Trump's tax cuts. When Democrats were in the minority, they worked with Republican to raise the debt ceiling. We nearly defaulted on the debt because MCConnell refused for a long time to cooperate. Just read his statement about the Build back better plan which is full of falsehoods www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/remarks/democrats-reckless-taxing-and-spending-spree-meant-to-turn-temporary-pandemic-into-permanent-socialism-Ted Cruz is blocking state department appointments because he has some axe to grind, something to do with the Russian Nord Stream pipeline than runs through Germany. The Republicans are way past keeping the other party in check. So, I definitely don't think this is a both sides situation.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 9, 2022 21:42:47 GMT
They are a part of a shifting culture that many conservatives feel like progressives are shoving down their throat, which is why the elect Republicans who will put a stop to more left wing policies. It's no wonder why so many conservative peas either leave the board or stop posting about politics on these boards. First let me say I appreciate the fact you ventured into a political thread to engage with us. I understand the need to put the brakes on to stop the political parties from going too far to the left or going too far to the right. But to claim that is the main reason folks keep voting for Republicans while they are ignoring their extracurricular activities is like throwing gasoline on a fire expecting to put it out. You were disappointed because I used Marjorie Taylor Greene as my example of what the Republicans in Congress are doing legislation wise. But the simple fact is she and her co-harts represent the new GOP. Just like AOC & Secretary Pete IMO represent the future of the Democratic Party. Yes sometimes I think AOC is a royal pain in the ass and while I disagree with her, she is being honest about what she believes in. Honesty is a trait that is in short supply with the current GOP. Letâs recap.. * Over a year after the 2020 Presidential election and to this day there are members in Congress who will not answer the question âDo you believe Joe Biden won the 2020 election.â Keep in mind there is absolutely no verifiable proof of any mass voter fraud and this after audit after audit has been done. You ok with that? * A year after the Capital was stormed by a mob with the intention of stopping the final certification of an election of which the results had already been certified by the individual states. In which audits and recounts were done in several of the states. The Republicans are calling âtourists just wandering through the Capital doing touristy thingsâ or the latest from the RNC who called it a âlegitimate political discourseâ. You do understand that if that mob had found Nancy Pelosi or Mike Pence they would have killed them donât you. And yet the Republicans in Congress are acting what happened on January 6 was no big deal. You ok with this? * The red states have been busy passing laws making it harder for certain people to vote. There is no massive voter fraud to justify this, they just want to make it harder for what they see as the wrong kind of people to vote. You ok with this? * The newest from the new GOP is the modern version of book burning. Their reasoning for âwhitewashing â our history is they donât want to make school age white kids uncomfortable. You ok with this? Iâm not quite sure what you mean by shifting culture. If itâs what I think it is, itâs not a shifting culture, itâs this country evolving and there isnât anything the Republicans can do to stop it. They may slow it down but they canât stop it. As to your comment about not flying an American Flag if you are selling your house and folks feel upset by it. Imagine if you are a person of color or a member of the gay/transgender community and you know there a a fairly large part of the population who feels itâs their right to discriminate against you not because something you said or did but because of who you are. So I personally canât get upset because a veteran may be unhappy that he/she is advised not to fly an American Flag if they put their house on the market. But I can and did get upset when our veterans were treated like shit when they came home from Vietnam. And I do get upset when people are discriminated against for the simple reason of who they are. Finally, when you talk about too far left policies what are they? I ask because when the Republicans rail against socialist policies they very rarely specific and offer no alternative. So Iâm curious what Democratic policies are too far left? Iâm not a fan of a couple but by and large understand the need of addressing issues just the matter of the best way of doing it. To conclude this mini novel. I happen to believe in two strong political parties keeping each other in check while working to making lives of the people and the country a bit better. Unfortunately we seem to have one party more interested in overturning the government instead of working with the other political party to make this a better place. IMO the only way this can be fixed is if those who vote for Republicans vote this crowd out and replace them with conservatives who actually want to govern and will to work with the Democrats to get things done. Until that happens this country, IMO, will continue to spiral downwards to what I have no idea other then it wonât be good.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 10, 2022 23:03:21 GMT
And they get paid for itâŠ.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 16, 2022 3:12:53 GMT
Yeah good luck with that thought. Itâs what should be done but you have too many voters voting against a âfar left agendaâ that many probably donât understand what it includes and the actual benefits it would provide.
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Post by peasapie on Feb 16, 2022 12:05:37 GMT
The pay isnât great. The perks are ok, but not amazing compared to the corporate world. But our elected officials seem to love their jobs, as they will sell their souls to keep them. It must be the power trip they love.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 13:12:14 GMT
Thatâs not how it is supposed to work, compromise and give and take used to be a thing, not blocking entirely without compromise, by way of checking. They got told by their pastors that compromise is evil. You don't compromise with "the adversary" (read, Satan). If you do, their god gets the sadz.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 13:14:14 GMT
The pay isnât great. The perks are ok, but not amazing compared to the corporate world. But our elected officials seem to love their jobs, as they will sell their souls to keep them. It must be the power trip they love. The "perks" are using the laws to increase your PERSONAL wealth: ballotpedia.org/Personal_Gain_Index_(U.S._Congress)
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 16, 2022 13:39:02 GMT
But those who vote for Republicans chose to do so. Â No amount of district gerrymandering or voter suppression laws are forcing people to vote for Republicans, they chose to do so. Â They chose to vote for bad behavior which I will never understand. Â I mean I could understand if the Republicans running for office actually offered the voters a genuine reason to vote for them over the Democrats, but they donât and as long as they win elections they never will offer voters genuine reasons to vote for them. Â I mean why do the work if they donât have to. Â You haven't listened to me. The voters who elect those Republicans think that stopping runaway Democratic policies, especially far left/progressive policies *IS* a genuine reason to earn their vote over a Democratic candidate. They want someone to act as an obstacle to ensure more balanced legislation is passed. And which âfar leftâ policies are these? The ones that are so damaging that it is worth it to vote for gerrymandering, discriminatory policies, and liars? I think it is a cop out to say âI want checks and balancesâ. They just donât want to admit that they do believe in the current republican values. I also want to know more about this âshifting culture that progressives are shoving down their throats.â I see the opposite but do want to hear more about what you are talking about.
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Post by peasapie on Feb 17, 2022 11:46:31 GMT
But those who vote for Republicans chose to do so. No amount of district gerrymandering or voter suppression laws are forcing people to vote for Republicans, they chose to do so. They chose to vote for bad behavior which I will never understand. I mean I could understand if the Republicans running for office actually offered the voters a genuine reason to vote for them over the Democrats, but they donât and as long as they win elections they never will offer voters genuine reasons to vote for them. I mean why do the work if they donât have to. You haven't listened to me. The voters who elect those Republicans think that stopping runaway Democratic policies, especially far left/progressive policies *IS* a genuine reason to earn their vote over a Democratic candidate. They want someone to act as an obstacle to ensure more balanced legislation is passed. I think she understands you perfectly. Youâre both saying Republicans chose to vote as they did and it wasnât gerrymandering that affected the outcome.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 18, 2022 20:49:56 GMT
And here is yet another reason why the taxpayers should stop paying the Republican members in Congress.
They have no legitimate reason to oppose her appointment so they make things up.
I get why voters on the right vote against far left policies that I doubt very much they know specifically what they are, but it would appear these voters lack a moral compass and the ability to know the difference between what is right and what is wrong. The behavior of these Republicans Senators was wrong.
âOpinion: Republicansâ buffoonish, disingenuous attacks on an Innocence Project attorneyâ
By Radley Balko Columnist
This week, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee lined up to pummel Innocence Project attorney Nina Morrison, President Bidenâs nominee for the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. Morrison has helped free about 30 innocent people from prison in her career and would bring desperately needed balance to a federal judiciary loaded with ex-prosecutors.
Rather than recognize her qualifications, Republican after Republican beclowned themselves with misleading attacks and self-serving theater. Start with Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), who solemnly told Morrison, âI will oppose you and anyone else the administration sends to us who do not understand the necessity of the rule of law.â Hawleyâs emphasis on âthe rule of lawâ was interesting, given that at that very moment, his campaign was hawking trinkets emblazoned with the senatorâs fist-pumping efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) once represented a man who had been wrongly convicted and nearly executed, the late John Thompson. Itâs one of the more decent things Cruz has done. So one might think Cruz would have some admiration for Morrison. But Cruz has never let his backbone inhibit his posturing. âThe whole of your record is deeply disturbing,â he scolded. âSkyrocketing crime rates ⊠are the direct result of the policies youâve spent your entire lifetime advancing,â claimed Cruz, about a month after he begged forgiveness for once criticizing the lawless Capitol mob.
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) berated Morrison for representing Ledell Lee, an Arkansas man who was executed in 2017. Four years after the execution, new testing found DNA on the murder weapon that belonged neither to Lee nor the victim, according to lawyers. Cotton seemed astounded that Morrison could still believe Lee might be innocent, given that Lee was convicted with eyewitness testimony. Morrison calmly pointed out that faulty eyewitness testimony is the leading cause of wrongful convictions.
Unchastened, Cotton demanded to know why Morrison thought âthe courts somehow overlookedâ Leeâs innocence for so long. But weâve seen exonerations of people who served 20, 30, even 40 years, some after courts reviewed their cases a dozen or more times. Worse, in Cottonâs home state, once a prisoner exhausts his appeals, the stateâs judicial system offers no way for him to get back in court even if he discovers compelling new evidence of his innocence.
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) criticized an op-ed Morrison wrote for the New York Times about prosecutor misconduct, because Morrison didnât emphasize that such misconduct is rare. But misconduct is documented only in a small percentage of cases. Thatâs likely because thereâs little incentive for anyone â including defense attorneys â to report it. And Morrisonâs essay criticized the fact that even when prosecutorial misconduct is reported and proved, the offending prosecutors are rarely punished. Thatâs the surest sign of a broken system.
It isnât as if the Utah senator isnât aware of perverse incentives. He has long decried their effect on welfare recipients. He just seems oddly uncurious about how they might affect prosecutors.
Finally, Republican senators tried to make hay of the fact that Morrison has advised progressive prosecutors such as Kim Gardner in St. Louis and Larry Krasner in Philadelphia. In fact, thereâs zero evidence of any link between crime rates and progressive prosecutors and their policies; murders are also soaring in cities with conservative or traditional prosecutors; and voters reelected both Krasner and Gardner by large margins. (Incidentally, murders and shootings fell significantly in St. Louis last year.) But even setting all that aside, the criticism is still nonsense. As Morrison pointed out, she advised those prosecutors only on conviction integrity units â the teams of attorneys who seek out and fix wrongful convictions.
If these Republicans truly cared about the rule of law, they would be heaping praise on attorneys such as Morrison. As with any other institution, we improve the criminal justice system by exposing and correcting its flaws, not by pretending those flaws donât exist.
The policies people such as like Morrison recommend to uproot the causes of wrongful convictions â such as stronger rules ensuring prosecutors share all evidence with the defense, tighter controls on cognitive bias in forensics and restrictions on testimony from jailhouse informants â can also help apprehend and convict the real perpetrators before they strike again. When police and prosecutors canât use quack experts and jailhouse snitches to confirm shaky theories â when theyâre forced to remain open-minded to all possible suspects â theyâre more likely to follow the evidence.
According to a 2021 Cato Institute study, former prosecutors and government attorneys outnumber former defense and civil rights attorneys on the federal bench by about seven to one. There hasnât been anyone on the Supreme Court with significant criminal defense experience in 30 years. The Biden administration deserves praise, not scorn, for addressing that imbalance.
For senators such as Cruz, Cotton, Lee and Hawley, however, this is all mere sport. It really doesnât matter that theyâre wrong on the facts, or that theyâve mischaracterized Morrisonâs career. For them, this is about sowing fear and anger to position themselves for the midterms and later runs for office.
But the people Morrison freed from prison have little time for politics as sport. Time is what was taken from them. Her nomination to the federal bench is validation that their suffering mattered â that should some wrongly convicted prisoner try to raise an innocence claim in the future, there would be at least one more voice on the federal bench willing to take them seriously. And itâs infuriating to watch these senators make a mockery of it all.â
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 0:41:11 GMT
Two more people that the taxpayers shouldnât be paying their salariesâŠ
And then there is thisâŠ.
Why would Hillary Clinton spy on the Oval Office in 2016. And if not 2016 When Obama was President, why would she do it in 2017 when dumpster don was president? It makes no sense.
Something just occurred to me, I hope the security people swept the White House for any listening devices when President Biden moved in.because I wouldnât put it past trump to bug the White House.
Seriously anyone who spied on the White House would have to have mad hacking skills. Wouldnât they?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 8:07:33 GMT
I guess I have not made myself clear enough so you understand what my point is.  And I donât know what I can say so we are on the same page at this point. But I can tell you that Iâm happy with the elected officials I have voted for here in CA.  I guess because they are Democrats who are doing the job I elected them to do. Did you ever consider that people in red states who voted for Republicans are happy with their elected officials because they are doing the job they elected them to do? (i.e., stopping the Democrats from enacting policies they feel are far too progressive/present an overreach of federal power) Government, especially legislative government, is just as much about killing legislation as it is about passing legislation. There is more evidence that these red states are pushing THEIR narrative and agenda AGAINST those who they represent.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 8:08:09 GMT
But those who vote for Republicans chose to do so. Â No amount of district gerrymandering or voter suppression laws are forcing people to vote for Republicans, they chose to do so. Â They chose to vote for bad behavior which I will never understand. Â I mean I could understand if the Republicans running for office actually offered the voters a genuine reason to vote for them over the Democrats, but they donât and as long as they win elections they never will offer voters genuine reasons to vote for them. Â I mean why do the work if they donât have to. Â You haven't listened to me. The voters who elect those Republicans think that stopping runaway Democratic policies, especially far left/progressive policies *IS* a genuine reason to earn their vote over a Democratic candidate. They want someone to act as an obstacle to ensure more balanced legislation is passed. Thatâs not what theyâre doing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 8:12:52 GMT
They are a part of a shifting culture that many conservatives feel like progressives are shoving down their throat, which is why the elect Republicans who will put a stop to more left wing policies. It's no wonder why so many conservative peas either leave the board or stop posting about politics on these boards. Plain gaslighting right here. No one bullied conservatives to leave here. They left because they turned into the âvictim snowflakesâ they called Democrats and liberal peas for years. Conservatives cannot ever hold themselves accountable for their own âinstead always blame others for their shortcomings.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 8:14:34 GMT
The pay isnât great. The perks are ok, but not amazing compared to the corporate world. But our elected officials seem to love their jobs, as they will sell their souls to keep them. It must be the power trip they love. Oh but the fundraising and perksâŠ
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 19, 2022 16:38:02 GMT
They are a part of a shifting culture that many conservatives feel like progressives are shoving down their throat, which is why the elect Republicans who will put a stop to more left wing policies. It's no wonder why so many conservative peas either leave the board or stop posting about politics on these boards. Plain gaslighting right here. No one bullied conservatives to leave here. They left because they turned into the âvictim snowflakesâ they called Democrats and liberal peas for years. Conservatives cannot ever hold themselves accountable for their own âinstead always blame others for their shortcomings. I'm sorry, but what do you call three different peas bringing me back into this thread a week or more after I stopped posting in it? It's bullying, and I know other conservative peas have complained of the same thing in the past. It's mentally exhausting to have an overwhelming number of self righteous peas gang up on you because you dare to disagree with them or offer a different point of view. For the record, I voted against Trump. I am appalled by the way he handled himself in office, and I felt like his aides should have blocked his access to Twitter from day 1. I remember when GWB was in office he had to stop using his personal email because of national security fears, and I can only imagine the security threats Trump's reckless use of Twitter caused. I was incredibly upset about the events of January 6, 2021, and I felt like Trump should have been convicted of his impeachable offices, removed from office, and prevented from running ever again. That would have ended his power over the Republican party. I do not stand by the Republican efforts to condemn those who speak out against the January 6th storming of the Capitol. As for the reasons why conservatives in red states vote for Republicans, I have been flat out told that by voters that is why they voted the way they did. Finally, because I know this is a frequent target for bashing conservatives on this board, I am fully vaccinated and boosted and I still wear my mask in public. I'm done posting about politics here. I've unfriended people on FB for being relentless about politics in the past, and those are people I know. I have no obligations to the peas, and there's no point in trying to offer a different point of view to y'all because you just aren't interested in it.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 17:46:26 GMT
Letâs see, if I was running for re-election the last thing I would do is complain that my wealth only doubled in the time Iâve been in office. I mean theoretically I was elected to represent the people and not increase my wealth. But then maybe thatâs the voters elected him so he could increase his wealth.
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Post by sideways on Feb 19, 2022 17:58:05 GMT
Plain gaslighting right here. No one bullied conservatives to leave here. They left because they turned into the âvictim snowflakesâ they called Democrats and liberal peas for years. Conservatives cannot ever hold themselves accountable for their own âinstead always blame others for their shortcomings. I'm sorry, but what do you call three different peas bringing me back into this thread a week or more after I stopped posting in it? It's bullying, and I know other conservative peas have complained of the same thing in the past. It's mentally exhausting to have an overwhelming number of self righteous peas gang up on you because you dare to disagree with them or offer a different point of view. For the record, I voted against Trump. I am appalled by the way he handled himself in office, and I felt like his aides should have blocked his access to Twitter from day 1. I remember when GWB was in office he had to stop using his personal email because of national security fears, and I can only imagine the security threats Trump's reckless use of Twitter caused. I was incredibly upset about the events of January 6, 2021, and I felt like Trump should have been convicted of his impeachable offices, removed from office, and prevented from running ever again. That would have ended his power over the Republican party. I do not stand by the Republican efforts to condemn those who speak out against the January 6th storming of the Capitol. As for the reasons why conservatives in red states vote for Republicans, I have been flat out told that by voters that is why they voted the way they did. Finally, because I know this is a frequent target for bashing conservatives on this board, I am fully vaccinated and boosted and I still wear my mask in public. I'm done posting about politics here. I've unfriended people on FB for being relentless about politics in the past, and those are people I know. I have no obligations to the peas, and there's no point in trying to offer a different point of view to y'all because you just aren't interested in it. WaitâŠyou post something here and then when people respond to it, thatâs bullying? WTactualF. Not everyone is here at the same time. Some people come to a thread several days later. You were asked to clarify what âfar left policiesâ you were talking about. To give examples. Thatâs bullying? đ Congrats on taking victimhood to a whole new level. Wow.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 18:46:33 GMT
Plain gaslighting right here. No one bullied conservatives to leave here. They left because they turned into the âvictim snowflakesâ they called Democrats and liberal peas for years. Conservatives cannot ever hold themselves accountable for their own âinstead always blame others for their shortcomings. I'm sorry, but what do you call three different peas bringing me back into this thread a week or more after I stopped posting in it? It's bullying, and I know other conservative peas have complained of the same thing in the past. It's mentally exhausting to have an overwhelming number of self righteous peas gang up on you because you dare to disagree with them or offer a different point of view. For the record, I voted against Trump. I am appalled by the way he handled himself in office, and I felt like his aides should have blocked his access to Twitter from day 1. I remember when GWB was in office he had to stop using his personal email because of national security fears, and I can only imagine the security threats Trump's reckless use of Twitter caused. I was incredibly upset about the events of January 6, 2021, and I felt like Trump should have been convicted of his impeachable offices, removed from office, and prevented from running ever again. That would have ended his power over the Republican party. I do not stand by the Republican efforts to condemn those who speak out against the January 6th storming of the Capitol. As for the reasons why conservatives in red states vote for Republicans, I have been flat out told that by voters that is why they voted the way they did. Finally, because I know this is a frequent target for bashing conservatives on this board, I am fully vaccinated and boosted and I still wear my mask in public. I'm done posting about politics here. I've unfriended people on FB for being relentless about politics in the past, and those are people I know. I have no obligations to the peas, and there's no point in trying to offer a different point of view to y'all because you just aren't interested in it. No one called you back after you left. The thread kind of died until I posted something new which meant peas who had not read your comments did and then responded. It happens. And if you were done after your last post and then saw these recent responses to your comments you had the option to ignore them and go about your day. So no you were not bullied because you had the option of ignoring the posts after you made the decision not to post in this thread again. When one says âyou arenât in a different point of viewâ. Thatâs not true for the majority of us. There is this belief by many that when they offer their view or opinion on something others must agree with it. It doesnât work that way, I know first hand it doesnât work that way. đ Some folks will agree, some wonât and sometimes when someone disagrees they will respond with why they disagreed. At that time the one has the option of engaging or ignoring. I believe the trick is not to take it personally if someone disagrees with your opinion, view, or your comment. Well not too personally. And more importantly, know when to walk away. Again Iâm glad you ventured in to this thread. And for the most part I agree with the reasons you provided for voters continuing to vote for a Republicans. But the point that I was trying to make is that at this particular point of time or history, those who continue to vote for Republicans for whatever reason, need to deviate form that and vote the current crop of Republicans out & replace them with conservatives that are willing to govern and provide a platform to counter the one provided by the Democrats. Vote against socialist/far right policies with no alternative should not be good enough for a voter. Because as it stands now, IMO, those voters who think they are voting against far left policies are actually voting for a political party who wants to be able to overturn elections if they donât like the outcome. And in my world that is for more damaging to this country then far left policies.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 20:15:29 GMT
Is this for real?? The right makes it so easy to make the case of not paying them with taxpayer dollars.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 23:47:58 GMT
And yet another example of wasting taxpayer money. And I have to ask is she really this dumb?
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 3, 2022 18:18:20 GMT
These guys make it so easy with examples showing why the American Taxpayers shouldnât pay these guys a penny.
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