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Post by withapea on Feb 23, 2022 23:59:13 GMT
I’m sick about this. I’m so disgusted with the “leadership” in our state. The cruelty is the feature. The fact that he pulls this shit while ignoring the HUGE abuse problem we have with out foster care system ( SB8 baby haven ). I have a hard time looking at a lot of folks in the eye here. Anyone willing to pass over this and vote for a Texas Republican is complicit. Screw them all.
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 24, 2022 0:01:10 GMT
Do you remember the Jeff Younger controversy? That is what started all this. The JY case ignited a grassroots movement against gender modification; a TX state rep learned of it, brought it to Paxton’s attention and it snowballed from there. Yes. I had forgotten about it, but now that you bring it up, I do. A quick scan of old news articles makes it seem that it was more a nasty custody battle than anything else. Paxton being Paxton, of course, he had to use the case as an opportunity to punish every trans child because these two parents couldn't manage their own dispute. I'm seeing claims from some on Twitter that Abbott's and Paxton's letters on this do not carry the weight of law, and that we should disregard them. Do you have any thoughts on that? I mean, I'm going to disregard them anyway. Just curious what you think. It can’t possibly have the force of law. It’s a directive based on an opinion! Unless TX has a law that specifically states this is child abuse, how is this enforceable? I would imagine the TX ACLU would challenge. But let me tell you, I wouldn’t put it past your legislature to create a law enshrining this. Heck, they did SB8.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 24, 2022 0:05:38 GMT
“Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is calling on “licensed professionals” and “members of the general public” to report the parents of transgender minors to state authorities if it appears the minors are receiving gender-affirming medical care.
The directive was part of a letter Abbott, a Republican, sent Tuesday to the Department of Family and Protective Services, calling on it to “conduct a prompt and thorough investigation” of any reported instances of minors undergoing “elective procedures for gender transitioning.”
Abbott’s letter follows an opinion released Monday by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, which stated that allowing minors to receive transition care such as puberty blockers, hormone therapy and surgery is child abuse under state law.
Paxton issued the opinion after the Legislature failed last year to pass a bill that would have made it a felony alongside physical and sexual abuse to provide such care to minors. An opinion is an interpretation of existing law; it does not change the law itself but can affect how it is enforced.
In Tuesday’s letter, Abbott tasked licensed professionals who work with children — including teachers, nurses and doctors — and “members of the general public” with reporting such claims. He added that state law “provides criminal penalties for failure to report such child abuse.”
Advocates allege that both Paxton’s opinion and Abbott’s letter are politically motivated, noting that they were released just ahead of the March 1 Republican primary and that both men face a crowded field of contenders in their re-election bids.
Adri Pèrez, policy and advocacy strategist for LGBTQ equality at the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas, said Paxton is trying to distract from the problems plaguing his campaign. He is awaiting trial for a 2015 indictment on charges of securities fraud, and he is under investigation by the FBI over allegations of bribery and abuse of office. Paxton’s office did not return a request for comment.
“There’s no court in Texas or the entire country that has ever found that gender-affirming care can constitute child abuse,” Pèrez said.
Brian Klosterboer, a staff attorney at the ACLU of Texas, said in a statement that neither the opinion nor the letter have a legal effect and “cannot change Texas law nor usurp the constitutional rights of Texas families.”
“But they spread fear and misinformation and could spur false reporting of child abuse at a time when DFPS is already facing a crisis in our state’s foster care system,” Klosterboer stated. “The law is clear that parents, guardians, and doctors can provide transgender youth with treatment in accordance with prevailing standards of care. Any parent or guardian who loves and supports their child and is taking them to a licensed health care provider is not engaging in child abuse.”
It’s unclear whether Abbott and Paxton can force the Department of Family and Protective Services and other state agencies to investigate claims of child abuse against the parents of trans kids without passing legislation that changes the law.
At least one county-level official has said he will not enforce Abbott’s directive. Christian Menefee, the elected attorney who represents Department of Family and Protective Services in civil child abuse cases in Harris County, where Houston is, said in a statement that Paxton and Abbott “are ignoring medical professionals and intentionally misrepresenting the law to the detriment of transgender children and their families.”
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OUT POLITICS AND POLICY Sen. Rick Scott's GOP manifesto denies existence of transgender people “My office will not participate in these bad faith political games,” he said. “As the lawyers handling these cases, we owe a duty of candor to the courts about what the law really says. We’ll continue to follow the laws on the books — not General Paxton’s politically motivated and legally incorrect ‘opinion.’”
Over the last year, nearly two dozen states considered legislation that would bar access to some or all gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors. Some states, including Texas, considered bills that would’ve charged parents or doctors who provide transition care with a felony. Only two states — Arkansas and Tennessee — have enacted restrictions on such care for minors, and a federal judge blocked Arkansas’ law from taking effect in July.
The White House, which has recently stepped up its response to anti-LGBTQ state measures, spoke out against Abbott’s directive Wednesday in a statement to The Dallas Morning News.
“Conservative officials in Texas and other states across the country should stop inserting themselves into health care decisions that create needless tension between pediatricians and their patients,” Karine Jean-Pierre, the deputy principal press secretary for the White House, told the paper. “No parent should face the agony of a politician standing in the way of accessing life-saving care for their child.”
Rachel Levine, assistant secretary for health and the first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official, added that the Department of Health and Human Services “stands with transgender youth and their medical providers.”
“Our nation’s leading pediatricians support evidence-based, gender affirming care for transgender young people,” she said.
Supporters of restrictions on gender-affirming care argue that minors cannot consent to care that includes permanent changes to their bodies. Advocates note that all relevant major medical organizations — including the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychological Association — say that gender-affirming care is medically necessary for transgender youth and is backed by decades of research.
The Endocrine Society, an international medical organization for the field of endocrinology, which includes the study of hormones, said in a statement Wednesday that Abbott’s directive “rejects evidence-based transgender medical care.”
“Medical evidence, not politics, should inform treatment decisions,” the group said in a statement. “The governor’s directive reflects widespread misinformation about gender-affirming care. When young children experience feelings that their gender identity does not match the sex recorded at birth, the first course of action is to support the child in exploring their gender identity and to provide mental health support, as needed.”
The Endocrine Society added that its clinical practice guideline recommends only reversible treatments for adolescents, such as puberty blockers, after they have entered puberty. Older adolescents “who demonstrate the ability to provide informed consent to partially irreversible treatment and experience persistent gender incongruence” can start hormone therapy. The guideline also recommends delaying surgery until the age of legal majority, which is 18 in most states.”
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2022 2:14:22 GMT
On a lighter note:
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Post by monicad on Feb 24, 2022 5:17:53 GMT
Well, folks, if you like what Abbott is doing, and would like to see more of it, then vote Republican in November. They want to turn us into a Christian nation-where does that leave us atheists?-outlaw abortion, go after contraception, voting, and gay/trans rights. Oh, and while they are at it, they’ll take a dump on the environment too. Don’t be fooled by all of the flag waving. These bastards are determined to force everyone into a cookie-cutter mold that someone like Franklin Graham would approve of. The Handmaid’s Tale seems to be more and more of a real possibility, which is absolutely terrifying.
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Post by RosieKat on Feb 24, 2022 15:21:10 GMT
And of course, they're using every other possible scam to suppress turnout in blue counties as well. Harris County has a giant target on it these days. Yeah, I'm in Travis. Just depends on the day which one of us is more beloved!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 24, 2022 16:20:08 GMT
Well, folks, if you like what Abbott is doing, and would like to see more of it, then vote Republican in November. They want to turn us into a Christian nation-where does that leave us atheists?-outlaw abortion, go after contraception, voting, and gay/trans rights. Oh, and while they are at it, they’ll take a dump on the environment too. Don’t be fooled by all of the flag waving. These bastards are determined to force everyone into a cookie-cutter mold that someone like Franklin Graham would approve of. The Handmaid’s Tale seems to be more and more of a real possibility, which is absolutely terrifying. That’s exactly what came to my mind too.
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Post by casii on Feb 24, 2022 20:56:11 GMT
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Post by Merge on Feb 24, 2022 22:30:33 GMT
Just recently when I read the comments sections on news articles (always a bad choice, but sometimes I can’t help myself), I see people list among their grievances the public schools teaching kids “it’s ok to be gay.” Well, my goodness. I naively thought that part of the culture war was behind us. Of course we are teaching kids that it’s ok to be whatever they are - black, white, gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, trans, whatever. How can we even begin to establish the trust we need to teach kids if we don’t start from the premise that we accept them and their families for who they are? I’m flabbergasted. “Telling kids it’s OK to be gay” is the new CRT, and folks, we’re doing it. Absolutely guilty and proud of it. Often that teaching is indirect, as when a first grader is encouraged to include the names of both his moms on the card he made for Mother’s Day. Or welcoming a fourth grader’s two dads with warmth and respect to our concert. So much of teaching is just modeling. Are we supposed to start acting disgusted?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:42:30 GMT
As we always hear - elections have consequences. When only the mean-spirited, ill-informed, and/or greedy vote - only the mean-spirited, ill-informed, greedy laws are passed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:47:21 GMT
their grievances the public schools teaching kids “it’s ok to be gay It gives their "god" the sadz when people are gay (though he presumably created gayness in the first place - just like he created that skin on the tip of the penis but then made people cut it off, I guess). Given the choice between making god sad or making people miserable/suicidal, they will ALWAYS choose the latter. ALWAYS.
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Post by Merge on Feb 25, 2022 0:59:32 GMT
More bad news for Abbott - the party of “support our troops” has a bunch of pretty mad ones down at the border.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 25, 2022 2:48:16 GMT
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Post by Ryann on Feb 25, 2022 19:08:22 GMT
MTG spouting more evil (Newsweek article). A sitting Congressperson calling for violence against their own constituents is something that should have consequences.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 25, 2022 22:28:26 GMT
Those who vote Republican and support this shit—
You fucking feel better about yourself now?
You happy that your vote will inevitably lead to suicides?
You think your Jesus loves you more now?
You fucking happy that you’re sowing fear and more hatred in your state yet?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 25, 2022 23:39:14 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/25/texas-transgender-youth-directive-abuses-children/Mr. Paxton and Mr. Abbott are not alone in seeing political advantage in attacking transgender children. Across the country, mostly in Republican-controlled states, bills are being lined up to ban transgender children from participating in sports that align with their identity, to prohibit classroom discussion about gender identity and to bar gender-affirming medical treatments. That some of these same politicians have railed about government overreach and the rights of parents to make decisions about their children underscores their blatant opportunism and hypocrisy.
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Post by Merge on Feb 26, 2022 0:35:30 GMT
Spotted in the wild:
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Post by quinlove on Feb 26, 2022 7:00:10 GMT
Abbott is only the symptom. The voters who eat this shit up are the REAL PROBLEM. Exactly this. Abbott is just a pandering suck-ass weenie. I am sure he does believe in *some* of what he orders, but I am pretty sure he doesn't believe all of it. He is pandering to his slimy fan base and clinging to his position as hard as he can. And while this may not be a topic for this thread, I am pretty sure he'll be reelected. Thanks, redistricting! Pandering to his slimy fan base !!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 26, 2022 16:25:31 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/25/texas-transgender-youth-directive-abuses-children/Mr. Paxton and Mr. Abbott are not alone in seeing political advantage in attacking transgender children. Across the country, mostly in Republican-controlled states, bills are being lined up to ban transgender children from participating in sports that align with their identity, to prohibit classroom discussion about gender identity and to bar gender-affirming medical treatments. That some of these same politicians have railed about government overreach and the rights of parents to make decisions about their children underscores their blatant opportunism and hypocrisy. I wish those politicians doing this the worst—whatever that may be.
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Post by Merge on Feb 27, 2022 13:10:03 GMT
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Post by Ryann on Feb 28, 2022 0:43:44 GMT
I had the thought, would the pro-life crowd be okay with terminating LGBTQ+ fetuses?
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Post by myshelly on Feb 28, 2022 2:34:12 GMT
I had the thought, would the pro-life crowd be okay with terminating LGBTQ+ fetuses? They don’t believe that there is any such thing because they don’t believe that anyone is born LGBTQ. It’s a lifestyle choice, not biology.
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Post by Merge on Mar 1, 2022 17:55:05 GMT
Shameful.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 1, 2022 18:40:54 GMT
Yup. The ACLU is bringing a challenge, but, to keep reminding people, these are kids and parents who are being made to live in constant fear so that politicians can score points with voters who demonize trans people (often without realizing they know trans people).
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 1, 2022 18:47:54 GMT
Yup. The ACLU is bringing a challenge, but, to keep reminding people, these are kids and parents who are being made to live in constant fear so that politicians can score points with voters who demonize trans people (often without realizing they know trans people). I hate them. What the fuck is wrong with people???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 20:08:55 GMT
What the fuck is wrong with people??? Bronze age beliefs.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 1, 2022 20:13:48 GMT
Spotted in the wild: Thought you’d like this cookie, Merge.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 1, 2022 20:15:50 GMT
This is from patriot.wins They’re just emboldening and validating the most vilely hateful among us. I felt sick to my stomach reading this.
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Post by Merge on Mar 3, 2022 0:26:40 GMT
Good news from the ACLU challenge.
Hopefully now that Abbott has won his primary he can stop trying to pander to the extreme far right in this state.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 3, 2022 1:15:53 GMT
This is from patriot.wins They’re just emboldening and validating the most vilely hateful among us. I felt sick to my stomach reading this. Ignorant fuckers. They really believe that only the “Left” has transgender LBGTQIA kids. Dumb as fucking dirt.
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