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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 14:10:27 GMT
You probably did but it was a false tweet from the Russian Embassy in London and has since been removed from twitter but not before some media took a screen shot of it. LINK Best advice is to ignore anything that has a link to any official Russian site. They're flat out liars and full of propaganda. Just how low can someone get to post out such untruths - words fail me. So this is fake? Either way  It's not the same woman but the Russian Embassy used her photo to deny the truth about the woman and the baby who did die. The details are in the links I posted in my previous post. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 14, 2022 14:13:47 GMT
"A pregnant woman, her face pale, lies on a stretcher. Her left hip is covered in blood as she is rushed out of a hospital in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol, which had just been hit by an airstrike. The gripping picture, captured by photographer Evgeniy Maloletka for the Associated Press, encapsulated the toll on civilians of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. It was shared, and the strike condemned, around the world — but little was known about the woman herself. Now, the AP reports that the woman and her baby died in horrific conditions in the aftermath of the attack on the hospital — arriving for surgery with her pelvis crushed and hip detached. Surgeon Timur Marin told the AP that medics delivered the baby via Caesarean section but that the infant showed “no signs of life.”"  www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/14/pregnant-woman-baby-death-mariupol-maternity-hospital/ I swear I saw an article about the "the pregnant Ukrainian lady" the one with the photo on the stairs, yesterday or the day before, with her baby after it was born, and it did not say either of them had died  I think it is two different women. |
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 14, 2022 14:16:52 GMT
"A pregnant woman, her face pale, lies on a stretcher. Her left hip is covered in blood as she is rushed out of a hospital in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol, which had just been hit by an airstrike. The gripping picture, captured by photographer Evgeniy Maloletka for the Associated Press, encapsulated the toll on civilians of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. It was shared, and the strike condemned, around the world — but little was known about the woman herself. Now, the AP reports that the woman and her baby died in horrific conditions in the aftermath of the attack on the hospital — arriving for surgery with her pelvis crushed and hip detached. Surgeon Timur Marin told the AP that medics delivered the baby via Caesarean section but that the infant showed “no signs of life.”" www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/14/pregnant-woman-baby-death-mariupol-maternity-hospital/ I swear I saw an article about the "the pregnant Ukrainian lady" the one with the photo on the stairs, yesterday or the day before, with her baby after it was born, and it did not say either of them had died Two different women. The woman who died was the one who was being carried on a stretcher. She was already wounded. The other woman—Mariana Vishegirskaya—was the one in polka dot pajamas walking down the stairs. She wasn’t wounded and gave birth to her baby. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 15:05:58 GMT
This makes me VERY happy.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 14, 2022 15:07:59 GMT
Here’s another person that needs to be gone…
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2022 15:25:11 GMT
You probably did but it was a false tweet from the Russian Embassy in London and has since been removed from twitter but not before some media took a screen shot of it. LINK Best advice is to ignore anything that has a link to any official Russian site. They're flat out liars and full of propaganda. Just how low can someone get to post out such untruths - words fail me. So this is fake? Either way Well, they have attacked more than one hospital ( 26 medical facilities according to WHO ) and injured more than one pregnant woman so it is possible there are both survivors & casualties of one bombing or another But the Russians should not be bombing civilian hospitals much less maternity wards in the first place Putin is a sick bastard wether a woman & baby survived or not |
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2022 15:26:33 GMT
Here’s another person that needs to be gone… Ukrainian lives matter |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 14, 2022 18:27:57 GMT
I swear I saw an article about the "the pregnant Ukrainian lady" the one with the photo on the stairs, yesterday or the day before, with her baby after it was born, and it did not say either of them had died Two different women. The woman who died was the one who was being carried on a stretcher. She was already wounded. The other woman—Mariana Vishegirskaya—was the one in polka dot pajamas walking down the stairs. She wasn’t wounded and gave birth to her baby. And her name is Veronica!! I was sad that they didn't find a clean top for mom, although seeing the big polka dots assured every one she was the same person. |
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 14, 2022 18:39:17 GMT
Hope and dread in Ukraine"Russian and Ukrainian negotiators are reporting progress after their talks that began in Belarus have continued over video. Legal drafts are being prepared for possible signing by the presidents, Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. The content is still unclear. Will Ukraine surrender territory or accept neutrality? What security guarantees or compensation will it receive in return? Scepticism abounds: local ceasefires have not always stopped Russia from shooting. The details of any accord are being written on the battlefield."
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 14, 2022 18:47:56 GMT
Hope and dread in Ukraine"Russian and Ukrainian negotiators are reporting progress after their talks that began in Belarus have continued over video. Legal drafts are being prepared for possible signing by the presidents, Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. The content is still unclear. Will Ukraine surrender territory or accept neutrality? What security guarantees or compensation will it receive in return? Scepticism abounds: local ceasefires have not always stopped Russia from shooting. The details of any accord are being written on the battlefield." It makes me sick and angry they have to sign anything with that evil bastard. |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 14, 2022 19:10:40 GMT
BioLabs…. Tucker Carlson the USA arm of the Russian Propaganda machine.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 14, 2022 19:54:00 GMT
And yet, the president has NOT given a job to his son. But you’re still “bleating” about it. And no, not every president has given jobs to family members. It’s called nepotism and it’s against the law. That’s why Jared and Ivanka did not accept a salary, but they were still in violation of the spirit, if not the letter, of the law. Once again, I guess IOKIYAR. Well since I said presidential family, not president, you are misquoting me. I’m pretty sure hunter biden got a pretty big salary for his questionable “job”. And I’m pretty sure he got that job because of who his father is. So….. Look…someone’s bleating the right wing propaganda. 🐑 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 14, 2022 19:57:31 GMT
It’s not illegal for someone else to hire the president’s questionable son. It IS illegal for the president to hire his children to work in the White House. I don’t get why you’re even arguing this point, other than for the possibility of getting the last word in. I’m here for another half-hour. Your choice. MY original point was that you’re all over Hunter Biden, who is not a threat to the security of this country, while simultaneously being blind to the much more dangerous transgressions of the Trump family. I wonder what Ivanka had to promise the Chinese, and Jared had to promise the sheiks, for all those sweet international $$$ to come rolling in? Hunter Biden has nothing to trade but paintings. His father doesn’t take political advice from him.  In my original post I said I thought it was interesting that hunter biden never gets talked about but trump does. It was an observation that you took to the next level and started arguing about. 🤷🏻♀️ But if you think that hunter is clean in his dealings with not only Ukraine but China and only traded paintings then you are living in Lalaland🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where’s the proof? Oh yet, Guiliani has a mysterious laptop from some repair shop. Your statements here and elsewhere on this forum put you living in a lying alternative universe. Man…it’s just amazing to watch you people suck up so much bullshit and spew it back out. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 14, 2022 19:58:46 GMT
What questionable job does Hunter Biden have in this administration? I have never seen him in any sort of capacity as an employee of Biden's administration, unlike Ivanka and Jared. Who had exactly ZERO qualifications to be a part of a presidential administration. You really are something else. This thread has been going on for almost two weeks, and NOW you choose to jump in to bitch about Hunter Biden? Good grief. Go back and reread my original post. Maybe then you will understand the context. But then again, maybe not. 🤷🏻♀️ Yeah, I don’t think even you understand the babbling bullcrap you’re putting out there! |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 14, 2022 20:00:08 GMT
You probably did but it was a false tweet from the Russian Embassy in London and has since been removed from twitter but not before some media took a screen shot of it. LINK Best advice is to ignore anything that has a link to any official Russian site. They're flat out liars and full of propaganda. Just how low can someone get to post out such untruths - words fail me. So this is fake? Either way No, it’s not. That’s a different woman though, than the one you’re talking about. I believe with that the Russian embassy tried to make out she was a “crisis actor” simply because she was an influencer who happened to be pregnant. This is the one who died and lost her baby too. apnews.com/article/c0f2f859296f9f02be24fc9edfca1085 |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 14, 2022 20:05:40 GMT
Why do you all keep responding to her?
She contributes NOTHING to this forum except toxic venom and bad faith bullshit.
And she thrives on the attention she gets. Like a child, any attention she gets is good attention.
Nothing you say to her will change anything BECAUSE SHES NOT OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 14, 2022 20:07:43 GMT
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Post by gar on Mar 14, 2022 22:18:54 GMT
Why do you all keep responding to her? . From a few days ago too 🤷🏻♀️ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 14, 2022 22:24:26 GMT
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Post by pyccku on Mar 15, 2022 1:20:12 GMT
There are lots of idiots in the world.
For someone who has always just been an idiot, it’s finally a chance to be useful.
That’s why there is no shortage of useful idiots these days.
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Post by mom on Mar 15, 2022 2:25:21 GMT
Back to the original topic, I saw on FB where two Harvard students developed a website, that has 12 different languages, where Ukrainian refugees fleeing war can immediately find hosts with free rooms, apartments unused in resorts, big or small cities or school dorms. www.ukrainetakeshelter.com/?fbclid=IwAR2Sa3Ue8l5D6DTPhbdckwyUVxLIR_5L7C0Yxnftd5UHLx0lh2BZb2k5oYAI know on this board we get so down on all the horrible things going on in the world, but there is still good + I feel like this deserves recognizing. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 3:28:21 GMT
So many people in Poland, Romania, Moldova, Hungry, probably more... Have opened their homes to the Ukrainians actual strangers who, many, may become life long friends!!
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 3:54:50 GMT
There are lots of idiots in the world. For someone who has always just been an idiot, it’s finally a chance to be useful. That’s why there is no shortage of useful idiots these days. Speaking of useful idiots, this isn’t the *own* he thinks it is. They are a truly revolting family. Every one of them. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 3:59:10 GMT
Also anyone shocked about this?
You do business with a kleptocracy and they nationalize (steal) your leased planes in retaliation?
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 4:03:47 GMT
Back to the original topic, I saw on FB where two Harvard students developed a website, that has 12 different languages, where Ukrainian refugees fleeing war can immediately find hosts with free rooms, apartments unused in resorts, big or small cities or school dorms. www.ukrainetakeshelter.com/?fbclid=IwAR2Sa3Ue8l5D6DTPhbdckwyUVxLIR_5L7C0Yxnftd5UHLx0lh2BZb2k5oYAI know on this board we get so down on all the horrible things going on in the world, but there is still good + I feel like this deserves recognizing. I like this. I think it’s easy to lose faith in the good in humanity, at times like this. There are still good people out there. |
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Post by mom on Mar 15, 2022 4:44:12 GMT
Also anyone shocked about this? You do business with a kleptocracy and they nationalize (steal) your leased planes in retaliation? [br I’m not surprised…but I am doubting they will be able to last long on their own without parts, etc. I saw something today about dentists over there already running out of dental supplies and unable to get more because they are usually imported and now no one will give them any. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 5:02:06 GMT
Also anyone shocked about this? You do business with a kleptocracy and they nationalize (steal) your leased planes in retaliation? [br I’m not surprised…but I am doubting they will be able to last long on their own without parts, etc. I saw something today about dentists over there already running out of dental supplies and unable to get more because they are usually imported and now no one will give them any. They don’t have access to parts or manuals, either . Seems like a cutting off your nose to spite your your face move, who’d want to invest and risk that in future? Yep, same with surgical parts. For knee replacements etc, they all came from Germany. I’m half torn, I know there are Russians who hate Putin who are really going to suffer under this, and I feel bad for those Russians. Then I see the whiny social media influencers who were demonetized and blame everyone but the person who caused it, or the smug Russians on Twitter crowing about their countries kleptocratic actions spewing venom about Ukraine, and I don’t really feel that bad for them . 🥴😕 |
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Post by pyccku on Mar 15, 2022 13:04:00 GMT
With the nationalization of foreign private property, he's salting the earth of his own nation. He will not be around forever. But after he's gone, everyone will remember these actions. How will you ever get foreign investment in your nation if the world knows that you will just steal things whenever it suits your needs? Russia is already back to the worst days of the USSR and they keep digging a bigger hole.
As far as maintenance and parts on these planes, they aren't going to care too much about that. Back in the Soviet era they had plane crashes frequently enough. But they didn't make the news, they just happened secretly and the government didn't report on them. Your loved one got on a plane in Almaty and never showed up in Moscow? They probably just went somewhere else, we have no such record of the flight you say he was on. He was probably lying to you and had a secret lover or whatever.
Life has always been cheap in Russia. This will not change any time soon. This is why Putin doesn't care how many Russian young men die fighting in Ukraine, it's why he doesn't care how many civilians are killed in their bombing raids, it's why he was fine with chemical weapons in Syria. He's fine with chemical weapons in Ukraine, too - he just hasn't used them yet.
All of the sob stories about "these poor Russians that are stuck in Ukraine and must be LIBERATED!" are bullshit. There are lots of Russians dying in Ukraine because they had a bomb dropped on their apartment building. Putin doesn't care about them, because they simply aren't important.
One thing the USSR had going for it in WW2 was sheer numbers. This is changing - they've had a pretty steep population decline in the past years and now they are going to have a worse time of it since they're killing their young men. A lot of their units tend to come from the same local area - they aren't made up of soldiers from all over Russia. So when you read that out of 220 men in a unit, only 11 survived a battle - this could be 90% of the young male population of that entire city/village. What will happen to that village when there are no young men?
Putin is killing Ukrainians, but he is also working very hard to kill Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 13:10:08 GMT
You do business with a kleptocracy and they nationalize (steal) your leased planes in retaliation? Great! Lay down w/kleptocrats, wake up w/kleptes - Greek, "thief", "cheater" |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Mar 15, 2022 13:15:07 GMT
Also anyone shocked about this? You do business with a kleptocracy and they nationalize (steal) your leased planes in retaliation? [br I’m not surprised…but I am doubting they will be able to last long on their own without parts, etc. I saw something today about dentists over there already running out of dental supplies and unable to get more because they are usually imported and now no one will give them any. My dad mentioned the other day we could be in real trouble if countries that bought our debt call it in (ie, China). He thought that Russia actually bought part of our debt too - is there any way to look up the countries that own our debt? That to me is a really scary situation, esp if China asks for payment that we don't have. We also have to be careful bc after WWI, Germany was basically humiliated and that is why Hitler was able to create such a following of national pride and growing an economy... and a military (which they weren't supposed to do). I hope enough Russians know Putin is basically Hitler 2.0, but they may be desperate to put food on the table, cloth their families... it is not as cut and dry as we think. |
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