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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 13:18:08 GMT
With the nationalization of foreign private property, he's salting the earth of his own nation. He will not be around forever. But after he's gone, everyone will remember these actions. How will you ever get foreign investment in your nation if the world knows that you will just steal things whenever it suits your needs? Russia is already back to the worst days of the USSR and they keep digging a bigger hole. As far as maintenance and parts on these planes, they aren't going to care too much about that. Back in the Soviet era they had plane crashes frequently enough. But they didn't make the news, they just happened secretly and the government didn't report on them. Your loved one got on a plane in Almaty and never showed up in Moscow? They probably just went somewhere else, we have no such record of the flight you say he was on. He was probably lying to you and had a secret lover or whatever. Life has always been cheap in Russia. This will not change any time soon. This is why Putin doesn't care how many Russian young men die fighting in Ukraine, it's why he doesn't care how many civilians are killed in their bombing raids, it's why he was fine with chemical weapons in Syria. He's fine with chemical weapons in Ukraine, too - he just hasn't used them yet. All of the sob stories about "these poor Russians that are stuck in Ukraine and must be LIBERATED!" are bullshit. There are lots of Russians dying in Ukraine because they had a bomb dropped on their apartment building. Putin doesn't care about them, because they simply aren't important. One thing the USSR had going for it in WW2 was sheer numbers. This is changing - they've had a pretty steep population decline in the past years and now they are going to have a worse time of it since they're killing their young men. A lot of their units tend to come from the same local area - they aren't made up of soldiers from all over Russia. So when you read that out of 220 men in a unit, only 11 survived a battle - this could be 90% of the young male population of that entire city/village. What will happen to that village when there are no young men? Putin is killing Ukrainians, but he is also working very hard to kill Russia. Yes. Those sheer numbers then included many from former“Soviet states” (including Ukraine) that are no longer theirs to compel. Like any tyrant he has no respect for any human life, but his own. His soldiers are referred to as cannon meat for a reason. He’s digging in, and destroying two countries. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 13:28:11 GMT
Another feel-good story: "300,000 volunteer hackers coming together to fight Russia The sprawling hacker army has been successful in disrupting Russian web services, according to NetBlocks, a company that monitors global internet connectivity. It says the availability of the websites of the Kremlin and the Duma – Russia’s lower house of parliament – has been “intermittent” since the invasion started. The sites for state-owned media services, several banks and the energy giant Gazprom have also been targeted. “The crowdsourced attacks have been successful in disrupting Russian government and state-backed media websites,” says Alp Toker, the director of NetBlocks. He adds that Russia has attempted to mitigate the attacks and deter hackers by filtering access to certain websites, which has caused further disruption." www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/volunteer-hackers-fight-russiaThe problem with the world, though, is it takes years of planning/building and thousands of people to build a skyscraper. It takes a few weeks of planning, by a few psychopaths, and a few bombs (or planes) to bring the skyscraper down. Destruction is easier than creation. Here's hoping that we find ways to create less psychopaths and take them out sooner in the future. Until then, one man can still destroy a nation. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 13:28:44 GMT
[br I’m not surprised…but I am doubting they will be able to last long on their own without parts, etc. I saw something today about dentists over there already running out of dental supplies and unable to get more because they are usually imported and now no one will give them any. My dad mentioned the other day we could be in real trouble if countries that bought our debt call it in (ie, China). He thought that Russia actually bought part of our debt too - is there any way to look up the countries that own our debt? That to me is a really scary situation, esp if China asks for payment that we don't have. We also have to be careful bc after WWI, Germany was basically humiliated and that is why Hitler was able to create such a following of national pride and growing an economy... and a military (which they weren't supposed to do). I hope enough Russians know Putin is basically Hitler 2.0, but they may be desperate to put food on the table, cloth their families... it is not as cut and dry as we think. The treaty of Versailles was part of German resentment, but it wasnt entirely the reason for the rise of Hitler. This isn’t really about NATO, it’s about Ukraine, NATO is just a means to an end. As far as China goes, yes they do and could - but they are far more dependent on the west for their economy, than even Russia. Xi is brutal, but he’s much more pragmatic and *rational* than Putin, and his goals are different. It’s not a one-sided relationship where China holds all the power. |
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Post by moodyblue on Mar 15, 2022 13:45:32 GMT
With the nationalization of foreign private property, he's salting the earth of his own nation. He will not be around forever. But after he's gone, everyone will remember these actions. How will you ever get foreign investment in your nation if the world knows that you will just steal things whenever it suits your needs? Russia is already back to the worst days of the USSR and they keep digging a bigger hole. Before all the talk of potential invasion, and then this war in Ukraine, I followed a couple Russians on YouTube. I liked seeing what their life was like, their homes and neighborhoods, etc. One is a young woman who showed her life with her husband and young daughter. She had just recently announced that she is pregnant. The last video of hers that I’ve seen was to announce that they had left Russia. They were in Uzbekistan, but would be going on from there to another country. She didn’t say which. The other is a man who had lived in the US for a time but went back to Russia about 20 years ago. He has an ex-wife and two daughters here in the US. He is still in Russia, streaming Live every day, but doesn’t know how long he’ll be able to use YouTube to do that. He has to be very careful about what he says because of the new laws that have been signed. He says clearly that he knows what is going on - but can only use the official descriptions. He frequently refers to the situation as both "new Russia" and as going back to the days of the USSR. He is not optimistic about Russia's future at this point, and thinks that his countrymen who believe this is short-term for them don’t understand the true situation. He’s already talking a lot about things that are in short supply, things that Russia doesn’t manufacture and won’t be able to get, companies that have left, technology and software that are no longer available or supported. |
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 15, 2022 13:52:59 GMT
With the nationalization of foreign private property, he's salting the earth of his own nation. He will not be around forever. But after he's gone, everyone will remember these actions. How will you ever get foreign investment in your nation if the world knows that you will just steal things whenever it suits your needs? Russia is already back to the worst days of the USSR and they keep digging a bigger hole. Before all the talk of potential invasion, and then this war in Ukraine, I followed a couple Russians on YouTube. I liked seeing what their life was like, their homes and neighborhoods, etc. One is a young woman who showed her life with her husband and young daughter. She had just recently announced that she is pregnant. The last video of hers that I’ve seen was to announce that they had left Russia. They were in Uzbekistan, but would be going on from there to another country. She didn’t say which. The other is a man who had lived in the US for a time but went back to Russia about 20 years ago. He has an ex-wife and two daughters here in the US. He is still in Russia, streaming Live every day, but doesn’t know how long he’ll be able to use YouTube to do that. He has to be very careful about what he says because of the new laws that have been signed. He says clearly that he knows what is going on - but can only use the official descriptions. He frequently refers to the situation as both "new Russia" and as going back to the days of the USSR. He is not optimistic about Russia's future at this point, and thinks that his countrymen who believe this is short-term for them don’t understand the true situation. He’s already talking a lot about things that are in short supply, things that Russia doesn’t manufacture and won’t be able to get, companies that have left, technology and software that are no longer available or supported. I follow that family who left too, have for about a year now. I’m not surprised they left. Shes such a sweet person, her videos were so interesting. Her last video left me so conflicted, she clearly knows the score, I felt sad for her but was also glad she did know (if that makes sense) and was clear about her feelings about it - but I was also glad she’d left. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 14:32:14 GMT
pyccku said: Correct. However there is one group waiting to join him. Former and friends should he be reelected and/or enough of his followers
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 15:00:26 GMT
It is small dart like .. Russia is using a never-before seen electronic jamming device to help its missiles evade Ukraine's sophisticated air-defense systems. An American intelligence official told The Times that the devices are each about a foot long, shaped like a dart and white with an orange tail. They are deployed by the Iskander-M short-range ballistic missiles that Russia is firing from mobile launchers across the border, the official said, when the missile senses that it has been targeted by air defense systems. Each decoy is packed with electronics and produces radio signals to jam or spoof enemy radars attempting to locate the Iskander-M. They also contain a heat source to attract incoming missiles. The official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about intelligence matters, described the devices on the condition of anonymity. Each decoy is packed with electronics and produces radio signals to jam or spoof enemy radars attempting to locate the Iskander-M. They also contain a heat source to attract incoming missiles. The official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about intelligence matters, described the devices on the condition of anonymity. www.rawstory.com/decoys-helping-russian-missiles-evade-ukrainian-air-defense-systems-report/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 15, 2022 15:34:32 GMT
Russia has sanctioned some Americans. The most interesting person on this list is Hillary Clinton. Neither President Obama or dumpster don is on the list but Hillary is.
When Hillary was still Secretary of State she gave a speech after Putin won his election and all but called the election rigged. In 2016 when it surfaced that Russia was trying to meddle in our Presidential election it was believed at first that Putin was getting back at Hillary because of her speech. In other words Russia would have meddled in the election no matter who the Republican nominee was. That belief kind of died.
But since Hillary made the list I suspect there is a lot of truth in Putin held a grudge against Hillary and this was his way of getting back at her.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 15, 2022 16:30:09 GMT
[br I’m not surprised…but I am doubting they will be able to last long on their own without parts, etc. I saw something today about dentists over there already running out of dental supplies and unable to get more because they are usually imported and now no one will give them any. My dad mentioned the other day we could be in real trouble if countries that bought our debt call it in (ie, China). He thought that Russia actually bought part of our debt too - is there any way to look up the countries that own our debt? That to me is a really scary situation, esp if China asks for payment that we don't have. I don’t mean to disrespect your father, but China will not “call in” US debt. US debt is in the form of treasury bonds (the same kind of bonds we buy through our mutual funds and other investments). If China dumps these bonds, the US can just turn around and resell them. The party that will be hurt the most is China because they are primarily an exporter. They peg their yuan to the USD to keep their currency value lower. That enables them to export their products at cheap prices. If they dump treasuries, that will decrease the value of USD and demand for it, and will lead to a loss of competitive advantage for China (meaning less exports for them). This is precisely why during the US-China trade wars in the Trump years, they still hung on to US treasuries. There’s also this belief that China has us over a barrel. That is not true. The largest debtee of the US is the US—you, me, everybody here who has investments, pension funds, the Social Security trust fund, the Federal Reserve, Medicare, our state and local governments, etc. We and our own gov’t hold close to 75% of US treasury bonds. This is in no way to be taken as a personal endorsement of more debt. I’m merely dispelling some misconceptions. |
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 15, 2022 16:51:21 GMT
Hope and dread in Ukraine"Russian and Ukrainian negotiators are reporting progress after their talks that began in Belarus have continued over video. Legal drafts are being prepared for possible signing by the presidents, Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. The content is still unclear. Will Ukraine surrender territory or accept neutrality? What security guarantees or compensation will it receive in return? Scepticism abounds: local ceasefires have not always stopped Russia from shooting. The details of any accord are being written on the battlefield." It makes me sick and angry they have to sign anything with that evil bastard. It's still questionable as of now. The fury is understandable, of course, and I share it, but I think we will have to realize at some point soon that to prolong this war would mean more Ukrainian deaths and suffering. To have this become another Syria or Yemen or Afghanistan will lead to more catastrophic results. There was an excellent article in The Atlantic yesterday Putin Needs an Off-Ramp that I think was very balanced and realistic. It laid out the pros and cons of various diplomatic resolutions, and it builds substantially on gar ‘s quite intelligent recognition (and prescience) from March 9 that we will have to find a way of giving Putin a face-saving exit as a possible way of rescuing Ukraine from an even more horrific fate. Nobody, not even the Russia and Putin experts in various gov’ts, really know how far Putin will take this. From the article: "When a gambler has already lost so much that he will go bankrupt unless he can turn it around, the logical thing for him to do is to continue upping the stakes. This is the desperate opponent the West may now face. Worse: This is the opponent whose bloodstained debts the West may have to write off...Ultimately diplomacy will have to get each side to agree to a deal that allows each to save its dignity—even though one side does not deserve to have its dignity saved." |
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Post by moodyblue on Mar 15, 2022 16:55:59 GMT
It makes me sick and angry they have to sign anything with that evil bastard. It's still questionable as of now. The fury is understandable, of course, and I share it, but I think we will have to realize at some point soon that to prolong this war would mean more Ukrainian deaths and suffering. To have this become another Syria or Yemen or Afghanistan will lead to more catastrophic results. There was an excellent article in The Atlantic yesterday Putin Needs an Off-Ramp that I think was very balanced and realistic. It laid out the pros and cons of various diplomatic resolutions, and it builds substantially on gar ‘s quite intelligent recognition (and prescience) from March 9 that we will have to find a way of giving Putin a face-saving exit as a possible way of rescuing Ukraine from an even more horrific fate. Nobody, not even the Russia and Putin experts in various gov’ts, really know how far Putin will take this. From the article: "When a gambler has already lost so much that he will go bankrupt unless he can turn it around, the logical thing for him to do is to continue upping the stakes. This is the desperate opponent the West may now face. Worse: This is the opponent whose bloodstained debts the West may have to write off...Ultimately diplomacy will have to get each side to agree to a deal that allows each to save its dignity—even though one side does not deserve to have its dignity saved." As much as many of us have a visceral negative reaction to anything that seems like face-saving for Putin, I have to agree that that may be the only palatable solution. If it doesn’t happen he is going to pummel all of Ukraine until it’s just rubble. And that means so much more death and destruction. |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 15, 2022 17:58:16 GMT
I really do like her..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 18:25:16 GMT
CNN..This is her name
Marina Ovsyannikova
The producer who carried the NO WAR sign on the Russian news channel has paid a 38k ruble($250) fine and has been RELEASED...
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Post by mom on Mar 15, 2022 18:33:17 GMT
CNN.. The producer who carried the NO WAR sign on the Russian news channel has paid a 38k ruble($250) fine and has been RELEASED... I won't be surprised when she comes up missing and/or dead. I dont think she's safe, yet. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 18:35:31 GMT
Of course she is not safe although they might be afraid to follow through right now... Big on screen news?
Russia's Channel 1 Marina Ovsyannikova, that's her name!!!
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Post by Gem Girl on Mar 15, 2022 19:40:00 GMT
CNN.. The producer who carried the NO WAR sign on the Russian news channel has paid a 38k ruble($250) fine and has been RELEASED... I won't be surprised when she comes up missing and/or dead. I dont think she's safe, yet. You're right. There's really no such thing as "safe" when you've ticked off an autocrat. For you or your family. He might not want to disappear her while everybody is looking, but the quality of her life is about to change drastically. For starters, she'll never be able to get another job. Perhaps never be able to get housing again, either. Those who think they'd like an autocracy because the despot shares their views should remember this, & that only petty, easily irritated people who nurse grudges would even be interested in being that form of "leader." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 19:44:35 GMT
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Post by mom on Mar 15, 2022 19:45:14 GMT
I just saw on Twitter, Russian soldiers are holding an entire Ukrainian hospital (doctors, patients, visitors) hostage.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 20:21:30 GMT
More press, reporters, photographers and consultants killed.. 2 for FOX, now with one still hospitalized in Ukraine. In our effort to keep you updated on yesterday's tragic events, we wanted to report that journalist Oleksandra 'Sasha' Kuvshynova was also killed alongside our cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski when their vehicle was struck by incoming fire yesterday while in the field with Benjamin Hall," Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott announced to staff. "Sasha was just 24 years old and was serving as a consultant for us in Ukraine. She was helping our crews navigate Kyiv and the surrounding area while the surrounding area while gathering information and speaking to sources. She was incredibly talented and spent weeks working directly with our entire team there, operating around the clock to make sure the world knew what was happening in her country." youtu.be/p7DbdR-I-jYwww.rawstory.com/fox-news-ukraine-reporters-killed/Maybe while they are expressing their concern, they should tell the TRUTH! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 20:33:55 GMT
CNN.. The producer who carried the NO WAR sign on the Russian news channel has paid a 38k ruble($250) fine and has been RELEASED... I won't be surprised when she comes up missing and/or dead. I dont think she's safe, yet. At the moment she's safe and free but who knows what will happen later . LINK |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 21:09:07 GMT
This is what the Russian news claims about evacuations from Ukraine... 15:28 Russia says it has helped evacuate civilians The Russian Ministry of Defence says Russian troops have helped evacuate thousands of civilians trapped in the fighting in Ukraine to western parts of the country in the past 24 hours. Mikhail Mizintsev, head of Russia's National Defence Control Centre, said more than 36,000 were evacuated "thanks to the unprecedented security measures taken by the Russian Armed Forces". He added that an evacuation of Ukrainian citizens to Russia was also ongoing. The official reiterated claims that Ukrainian forces were hampering evacuation efforts. Almost three million people have now fled Ukraine because of the Russian invasion, according to the United Nations (UN). www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60746557You will have to scroll around the BBC site to find it.. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 21:13:41 GMT
I just saw on Twitter, Russian soldiers are holding an entire Ukrainian hospital (doctors, patients, visitors) hostage. Over 400 people total.. was also in the BBC link @dottyscrapper posted above or maybe the one I wandered to from hers.. |
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 15, 2022 21:20:12 GMT
Well duh. Putin wants the old USSR back. If he gets away with what is currently happening in the Ukraine then the question becomes what country is next…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 21:26:47 GMT
From David Corn's Mother Jones piece:
"He has enthusiastically hosted guests on his shows with extreme viewpoints. One recently demanded the West pay Russia reparations for the sanctions and give back Alaska and return Olympic medals “unlawfully taken” from Russian athletes and recognize that Russia owns the Antarctic. And his broadcasts have long beaten the drums of war—with Ukraine and beyond. In April 2021, he hosted a deputy dean at Moscow State University who said, “Everything will start in Ukraine. We will be forced to step onto the battlefield in a fight for which they think we’re not ready.” Solovyov asked: “A fight against whom?” The answer: “Against the collective West.”"
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 22:08:31 GMT
This man went to Russia to take care of his mother before the invasion, he is now stuck there. He cannot get a Visa for her to come her... He, of course, is observing what is going on there ..here is his commentary about the TV protest.. According to Kronrod, even pro-Putin outlets have reported on the story, he said, delivering her message even farther to more people."It sends shock waves through all of Russian society. Yandex News had a story about it, and they rarely have anything that's against the main narrative," said Kronrod. "Her Facebook page was getting thousands of people commenting every minute. Literally, it exploded. Everyone was texting each other, calling each other saying, did you see? Did you see what happened? And many of the human rights activists that I'm talking to feel this may very well be the start of the wave to see someone like that Channel 1 has 250 million viewers, it's the number one watched station by most common Russians. For a lot of Russians, this was the first time they saw any dissenting voice.About 1:20 youtu.be/_r0y20e0GZswww.rawstory.com/russia-channel-one-protest-putin/ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 15, 2022 23:10:14 GMT
About 20,000 were able to exit Mariupol today. Still no incoming supplies.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 16, 2022 5:41:20 GMT
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Post by gar on Mar 16, 2022 13:44:16 GMT
So talks continue with faint glimmers of hope. It seems Zelensky is willing to compromise on joining NATO but what else will have to give? As we've said before, Putin will be adamant that he can declare himself the victor, despite the actual facts.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 16, 2022 14:58:22 GMT
People waiting in line to buy bread. Ten dead thanks Putin the Butcher!
Apologies, hard to keep up with all the different cities' names.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 16, 2022 14:59:42 GMT
So talks continue with faint glimmers of hope. It seems Zelensky is willing to compromise on joining NATO but what else will have to give? As we've said before, Putin will be adamant that he can declare himself the victor, despite the actual facts.And where have we heard that?!?!? |
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