For the love of all that is effing holy - quit arguing!

JUST STOP IT! You are doubling down on something that just is not true.

Yes, however can you point the people who said this enabling her to comment on their remarks ?

I can’t.

I feel this this is something she wanted to say herself but veiled it behind other unnamed peas to put the blame on them rather than being straightforward.

It leaves an abusive comment whilst not taking responsibility for it.

I’m calm, and not so shocked now.

Thank you everyone who spoke for me. Yes, this is what I was saying.

I have *many* vulnerable people in my life - including my mother, and would never devalue or dismiss the life or health any vulnerable person this way, certainly not deliberately like that. My empathy and compassion has always been with what this pandemic has meant for them. One of the things that has been especially hard for me to comprehend during this pandemic, is how little her (and vulnerable people in general) lives have meant to some other people.

You ‘feel’ this is something she wanted to say, but you’re admitting she didn’t actually say it??

Oh no—I don’t think she said she didn’t care…

What I’m reading is that she was referring to a few peas on this board who have been verbal about “not wearing masks, they don’t work, prove it people” (2 specific peas come to mind who had been posting) who have shown that they could care less of others, that they are all about themselves and how they’ve been inconvenienced by masks, and their opposition to the mask mandates and vaccination mandates has been fueled by ignorance and misinformation.

I truly do not think sassy said what you’re saying.

Lettuce, I sincerely believe that sassy was not talking about your family specifically or anyone else for that matter. She was saying that there are people in this world that don’t care about your life or anyone else’s but only care about themselves.

One thing I know about this board is it is very rare for all the peas to be in agreement. So if everyone here is interpreting it the same way then I truly hope you can step away, re-read it and see that she was not wishing harm on you or your family.

😞 I don’t understand this.

You believe I hurt you, so now you’re going to hurt me back equally?

If this is what you really think of me, please just block me. I would not want to upset you like this again, however unintentionally.

Sigh. She is taking it from the behavior that anti-vaxers displayed throughout the pandemic. You have misinterpreted what she said. Note that she used the pronoun “they.” She is clearly not referring to herself. You might *feel* that is what she meant, but that is definitely not what she said.

 If that is the case why did she not just generalise rather than personalise to our family.

I have seen the hatred on this board between republicans and democrats .

I object to being used as a pawn in her game to score points in a political feud.

This is my family’s life.

The remarks were cruel and hurtful and should never have been made.

And the peas that post that  are typically called out  for being callous bitches, although not using that exact phrase, they have been called out for it, repeatedly.

Well. This is intense.

cakediva I agree with you. I personally have enough stress elsewhere, and like coming here for a break from that.

I too have had to leave the board for a while when it got to be too much. I've now got a short list of people on ignore, and that does help a lot. I didn't do that for probably 15 years between the two boards, but now I've decided I have to. For my sanity.

I know that I have been nasty on here. Not a lot, but I have. I also have publicly and privately apologized, and I'd love to see more of that from people.

I do think there's all the difference in the world between disagreeing and calling people names. I'm not talking about public figures; they are fair game. But people on here? I think the worst thing I've ever called someone was a bitch, and I probably shouldn't even have done that. I would never say I didn't care if someone on here died, or anything that nasty, and no one should. @ktc, I am in a very similar situation. I've pretty much had to isolate since Covid started, along with my daughter. It sucks. I too had to really research the vaccines. I decided I was far more likely to have problems if I got Covid, and I was really risking my life. Consequently all 3 of us are triple vaccinated. But I also have a granddaughter who got seizures from vaccines given earlier in her life. Her mother chooses not to vaccinate. I don't like it, but I also understand it, and the seizures were very scary. So while I consider myself very much pro vaccine, I also understand that may not be the best answer for everyone (though I do think it'd be best for 99+% of us). 

I struggle often to see both sides of some issues. But I try. I put Hivemind on my Kindle and plan to start reading it tonight. I have a daughter who has suddenly gone to the opposite end of the political spectrum (not the DD that lives with us) and I try to just keep the lines of communication open, even though my heart hurts like hell at some of the things she says and does. 

I'll mention too that one of my stepdaughters is non-binary, very much on the LGBTQ+ spectrum. I live in Florida. For my health. And I hope that if enough likeminded people move here, we can bring change to this state. The two things can both be true.

And here’s my daily WTF…

She was directly responding to you and I took her post to mean general "you", but it did also relate to you personally. She was not saying she hopes that happens to you or your family in any way, shape, or form. You brought up your family, she responded with her opinions on how anti-vaxxers are responding and have been responding. She does not want to use you as a pawn. She owns what she says and does not mince words. And, in case you blocked her and couldn't see her response, she has responded on this thread to say she did not mean it the way you have taken it. Many people, myself included, have said how most anti-vaxxers we've encountered are very selfish and don't care about anyone else. That is what she was pointing out again.