For the love of all that is effing holy - quit arguing!

Mine too, I think I’m going to go play some Animal Crossing and leave this here. Seems fitting for the thread - beginning to end.




Thanks to those who said something, I appreciate you. ❤️

[I think you were responding to me (post above yours), but not sure, so I’ll answer. Bold mine.]


Answer: She personalized because it was a conversation. In a forum. Where we illustrate our opinions with personal information and we integrate the personal info shared by others into our replies to them. 

She countered your concern for others’ vaccine rights by saying those same people might not be concerned for your own family’s health or survival. To me, it was just relating to you personally, not callously - or inappropriately - raising the specter of your family’s demise to inflict pain.

If it’s upsetting to interact with people who will connect what you personally share to the larger topic, you might want to move forward here without sharing that information. Few will know that it is off limits. 

This was what I intended to be my first (and possibly only) response to this thread...
Thanks for this. Based on your description and recommendation it's going to be the very next book I read.
...when I finish the one I'm reading now. 
I just finished one and I only just started another. I recommend the one I finished, Don't Burn This Book: Thinking for Yourself in an Age of Unreason by Dave Rubin
It was so interesting.
I'd love to recommend the other, but I should probably read the whole thing before I do. Both are written by Left leaning writers if that holds any weight to something *I* might recommend. 

I agree, particularly with the part I’ve quoted in bold.

@ktc , I remember how kind you were in your response to my feelings about the AUKUS defence pact and I care that you’ve felt hurt.

For what it’s worth, I think many of us can relate to having misinterpreted something written, especially when the subject was particularly sensitive and personal.

Sending gentle hugs to you and sassyangel .

Go back to page 5.
She is maligning a member of the board who didn’t do anything wrong and also calling out everyone else for not standing up to the pea she is falsely accusing.  

They/them = anti-vax/anti masking people.

It's fine if you don't want to discuss it further but I hope you do read through all the notifications and posts trying to explain it you and consider them.

Again, that’s absolutely not what she said!

FFS.  It's not a valid comparison but you will not concede that.  Here's a comparison that may work for you - the reason people can't exercise their "freedom" to smoke in public is because doing that directly negatively impacts the health of people around them.  It was determined that it was in the best interests of the public to do this for the greater good. I consider those kinds of actions just part and parcel of living in a civilized society.  I don't equate having to wear shoes or a mask into a store an assault on my freedoms. 

The people who want to be "free" and will not wear a mask or get a vaccine have a direct health impact on the people around them - sometimes with long-term or fatal consequences (and for clarity - I am NOT including those who have legitimate health reasons for not being able to be vaccinated). This is just part of why there have to be mandates.  You simply cannot rely on people to think of others and maybe modify their behavior in a manner that would be good for many instead of the one.  It's been completely disheartening to many of us to realize just how selfish or cavalier about others struggles many people are.   

And Sassyangel was not being mean to Lettuce.  It is clear to me that she was using the "general" you to encompass everyone who is at risk.  I'm sorry that Lettuce cannot see that and that her feelings were hurt.

I see what you did there!

But nope - as you assuredly know, this was over-simplification for the purpose of clarification and not at all what you are trying to twist it into.

Oh come on, that’s just so rude. Why bother to add to a pile-on with another insult? Lettuce has obviously been really hurt, maybe she misinterpreted something, but you’ve just got to add your ‘improve your reading comprehension’ comment? Really unnecessary.

Me too  added 3 people yesterday

I've just re-read this bit and wanted to add this; you have talked quite openly about your family and the vulnerability problems and stress that you/they have. I think this makes it very difficult to have known or guessed that she (sassy angel) should not have mentioned them too. But - she was still not saying that she didn't care, but that there are some folk who do not.

@ktc, I empathize with your hurt and anger. A similar thing happened to me years ago. When you are in a scary place and someone may inadvertently say something including “they/them”, it is natural for you to think someone is attacking you personally. Your reading comprehension is fine. Your fear, anxiety and lack of support made you misinterpret the situation. 

I hope time and the lessening of anxiety will help to heal the hurt. I, too, think that sassyangel meant you no ill will but I do appreciate what your feelings might have been.

It need to be taken in context though as to what sassyangel was replying to. She wasn't randomly replying to the whole post she was replying to a particular part of @ktc post.

Lettuce





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