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Post by imkat on Mar 2, 2022 14:06:32 GMT
Sometimes I will hold up my finger (or some other nonverbal signal) and say, "Let me just finish that thought."
eta: not THAT finger
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 2, 2022 15:29:44 GMT
Sometimes I will hold up my finger (or some other nonverbal signal) and say, "Let me just finish that thought." eta: not THAT finger š¤£šš¤£
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Post by SabrinaP on Mar 2, 2022 15:47:40 GMT
Iām totally guilty of this. It does sound like your coworker doesnāt care to change it. Iām aware I do it and try to actively work on listening during conversations. I honestly donāt know why I do it. I donāt have any form of focus issues. Iām just a type A person with probably a slightly lower than normal filter, so if I think it I often say it before processing if I should. You wouldnāt have to snap at me, but when I do interrupt I usually catch myself or notice if I get the look or someone says something like āas I was sayingā etc. We all have traits we donāt like about ourselves and this is one of mine, but I pride myself on being pretty self-aware of my flaws and work to fix them or at least hide them!
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Post by quinlove on Mar 2, 2022 16:34:34 GMT
Guilty of this too, sometimes. My ex, raised in Texas, would say to me, when I would do this - stop walking over me. I thought that was kind of a cute way to tell me to stop interrupting. š
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Post by Merge on Mar 2, 2022 17:07:46 GMT
Iām totally guilty of this. It does sound like your coworker doesnāt care to change it. Iām aware I do it and try to actively work on listening during conversations. I honestly donāt know why I do it. I donāt have any form of focus issues. Iām just a type A person with probably a slightly lower than normal filter, so if I think it I often say it before processing if I should. You wouldnāt have to snap at me, but when I do interrupt I usually catch myself or notice if I get the look or someone says something like āas I was sayingā etc. We all have traits we donāt like about ourselves and this is one of mine, but I pride myself on being pretty self-aware of my flaws and work to fix them or at least hide them! She does not care to change it. I went in this morning, took her a cupcake that I know she loves, and apologized again. Today she is doing the "you hurt me terribly but I reluctantly forgive you" thing. Then she texted me and said she knows she interrupts and is sorry and doesn't mean anything by it, but that she was glad I had "stepped up" with another apology. I responded back that her frequent interruptions make me feel demeaned and dismissed, as if she believes my words are less important than hers. I said that my feelings don't excuse my snapping at her, but that I do feel that way. No response. I chose not to eat lunch with the group today and am sitting in my classroom instead. Based on what she's told us about her family interactions, she is the baby in the family and is used to having her "quirks" overlooked. She seems to feel, even at the age of 42, that she is just so damn cute and talented that anyone can and should forgive her anything. She needs constant attention and praise for herself and her daughter, who is a first grader. Clearly my issues with her are deeper than just her interrupting. That's a symptom of a larger problem, which is that I find her obnoxious, overbearing, and self-absorbed. Ha. I've spent almost two years being patient and professional with her and I am over it!
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Post by busy on Mar 2, 2022 17:26:17 GMT
Iām totally guilty of this. It does sound like your coworker doesnāt care to change it. Iām aware I do it and try to actively work on listening during conversations. I honestly donāt know why I do it. I donāt have any form of focus issues. Iām just a type A person with probably a slightly lower than normal filter, so if I think it I often say it before processing if I should. You wouldnāt have to snap at me, but when I do interrupt I usually catch myself or notice if I get the look or someone says something like āas I was sayingā etc. We all have traits we donāt like about ourselves and this is one of mine, but I pride myself on being pretty self-aware of my flaws and work to fix them or at least hide them! She does not care to change it. I went in this morning, took her a cupcake that I know she loves, and apologized again. Today she is doing the "you hurt me terribly but I reluctantly forgive you" thing. Then she texted me and said she knows she interrupts and is sorry and doesn't mean anything by it, but that she was glad I had "stepped up" with another apology. I responded back that her frequent interruptions make me feel demeaned and dismissed, as if she believes my words are less important than hers. I said that my feelings don't excuse my snapping at her, but that I do feel that way. No response. I chose not to eat lunch with the group today and am sitting in my classroom instead. Based on what she's told us about her family interactions, she is the baby in the family and is used to having her "quirks" overlooked. She seems to feel, even at the age of 42, that she is just so damn cute and talented that anyone can and should forgive her anything. She needs constant attention and praise for herself and her daughter, who is a first grader.Ā Clearly my issues with her are deeper than just her interrupting. That's a symptom of a larger problem, which is that I find her obnoxious, overbearing, and self-absorbed. Ha. I've spent almost two years being patient and professional with her and I am over it! Please donāt apologize to her anymore. Sheās guilting you and taking no responsibility for her own bad behavior. Youāve apologized more than enough.
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Post by Lexica on Mar 2, 2022 17:53:40 GMT
Yes, my next-door neighbor! I have learned that he just won't hear what anyone else wants to say once he gets going. His interruptions are all lengthy vents about something in his life. It feels like once he gets going, the dam has burst and he can't stop until he gets it all out, no matter how long it takes and regardless of whatever the original conversation was. When he takes a breath and you try to steer the conversation back to where it was, he just starts up again as if you said nothing. He is quite the complainer. In his case, I just find somewhere to sit down and let him go on and on. He seems to really need to hear his own story again. And when he is done, he doesn't really want my opinion on whatever happened, so I stopped offering it. I just nod every few minutes and pretend to be interested.
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Post by Lexica on Mar 2, 2022 18:03:11 GMT
Although, maybe after you course-correct they are more alert and will actually hear you? I'm sure it depends a lot. But more than once, I've been interrupted by some dude who restates my idea and tries to make it his, so... he seemed to be listening I've seen the same happen to others plenty too. I think in personal conversations (1:1 or groups), it's probably likely they weren't really listening. That would make me livid! I have experienced that a couple of times and I just try to step in with, "As I was saying..or trying to say..." with a look at the interrupter. This would only be in a work situation though. I do not appreciate my ideas being stepped on and claimed by someone else. I more typically stop an interrupter when they are interrupting someone else who was speaking. I am an introvert, so maybe that is why I tolerate it in a personal setting, but when it comes to business, no way.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 2, 2022 18:40:20 GMT
She does not care to change it. I went in this morning, took her a cupcake that I know she loves, and apologized again. Today she is doing the "you hurt me terribly but I reluctantly forgive you" thing. Then she texted me and said she knows she interrupts and is sorry and doesn't mean anything by it, but that she was glad I had "stepped up" with another apology. I responded back that her frequent interruptions make me feel demeaned and dismissed, as if she believes my words are less important than hers. I said that my feelings don't excuse my snapping at her, but that I do feel that way. No response. I chose not to eat lunch with the group today and am sitting in my classroom instead. Based on what she's told us about her family interactions, she is the baby in the family and is used to having her "quirks" overlooked. She seems to feel, even at the age of 42, that she is just so damn cute and talented that anyone can and should forgive her anything. She needs constant attention and praise for herself and her daughter, who is a first grader.Ā Clearly my issues with her are deeper than just her interrupting. That's a symptom of a larger problem, which is that I find her obnoxious, overbearing, and self-absorbed. Ha. I've spent almost two years being patient and professional with her and I am over it! Please donāt apologize to her anymore. Sheās guilting you and taking no responsibility for her own bad behavior. Youāve apologized more than enough. Agreed, youāve apologized twice, thatās enough. I am glad you were still honest with her on how it makes you feel. You have a right to be listened to and feel valued when you speak, too.
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Post by msladibug on Mar 2, 2022 19:10:04 GMT
I am also guilty of doing this. I am working on it, because I know that itās a bad habit.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 2, 2022 19:25:50 GMT
I will point blank tell them I was talking or Merge is talking you need to be quiet until it is your turn again. It is something I do NOT ever apologize for. If you are going to be rude to me by talking over me or someone else all the time I have NO issue dishing the rudeness right back to you.
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Post by voltagain on Mar 2, 2022 19:26:28 GMT
SHE needs to be apologizing to YOU and the others.
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Post by MaryMary on Mar 2, 2022 21:01:58 GMT
I have such a complex about this topic because I also have ADHD and interrupt even though I try try tryyyyyyyy so hard not to. I know it is unbelievably rude. Me and my ADHD children are constantly interrupting each other... but when we do we feel bad and apologize. It's very much the huge-family-can't-get-a-word-in-edgewise dynamic that Peabay mentioned.
So, if somebody reminded me that I was interrupting them, I would feel horrible and be very apologetic. I would like to believe I wouldn't make myself the victim. This chick sounds pretty annoying in general. Sorry.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 3, 2022 1:11:50 GMT
There's a quote, saying etc... that I've seen several times on facebook and pinterest.
Something like this. "Most people don't listen with the intent to understand or hear you. They listen with the intent to reply".
I know a few people, that whatever I am saying, talking about, mentioning, telling them, etc... they have a story, reply, rebuttal, etc... I can literally see them physically posturing..... ready to pounce and talk, when there is a one second pause. Sometimes they don't even wait for a pause, they interrupt-talk over me. Even worse >> are the ones, who think they KNOW EVERYTHING about any given topic, subject matter, etc.. and the ones that think "their way" is the only way, the right way. Whatever they like, whatever they believe in, whatever they use, whatever brand they own, etc... is "right" and everything is wrong and/or bad. They interrupt, talk over people, get louder, don't want to hear any other point of view, etc...
It is frustrating having to speak with anyone that is this way.
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Post by craftedbys on Mar 3, 2022 1:55:13 GMT
My DH will usually tell me when I am consistently interrupting him. He will let one or two slide before he starts getting frustrated and then he may or may not be nice about pointing it out.
When I told him that sometimes it is my ADD brain not wanting to forget what I wanted to say in response to something specific he had said he was understanding and said OK, what were you going to say. Of course by that time I had, in fact, forgotten my point.
For me, it also has to do with the fact that some conversations in our family are like a pachinko machine and by the time I can speak the conversation has changed topics once or twice, and we can't always "circle back", LOL.
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Post by greendragonlady on Mar 3, 2022 2:34:01 GMT
Oh, yeah, thatās a tough one to deal with and not snap. Is it possible that she has adhd? I learned recently that interrupting is common with people who have adhd. I had an aha moment because a friend was recently diagnosed and she interrupts a lot. But it will say she doesnāt interrupt in a way that shows that she wants to dominate the conversation and steamroll everyone. She just has a thought and it comes out whether others are talking or not. That's probably my issue. Plus if I don't spit out my thought at that moment I'll forget. I really try hard not to (especially when my husband is talking)
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Post by Merge on Mar 3, 2022 3:46:09 GMT
Honest question for those who say they feel the need to get their thought out before they forget it - is it necessary to inject every thought you have into the conversation? Or could you participate just with the thoughts that come up at appropriate times to share?
As an introvert who shares out loud only a fraction of what I actually think, Iām having a hard time understanding why every single thought must be voiced.
Iām not trying to pick on anyone here who struggles with this - I guess Iām trying to better understand my coworker. As an introvert, Iāve had to work hard to develop conversational skills so that my friendships and work life donāt suffer. Iāve learned that asking about others is a better way to keep the conversation moving than to spout out every thought I have. Do extroverted people not feel a similar pressure and responsibility to make themselves socially acceptable?
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Post by 50offscrapper on Mar 3, 2022 4:41:52 GMT
But more than once, I've been interrupted by some dude who restates my idea and tries to make it his, so... he seemed to be listening This is just a shit move. It wasn't at all what I was thinking of when I read the post. But I see how this might happen and how frustrating it must be. In that case, I say something like I am glad you like my idea! I make sure that people know it wasnāt his idea.
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Post by 50offscrapper on Mar 3, 2022 4:45:53 GMT
Iām totally guilty of this. It does sound like your coworker doesnāt care to change it. Iām aware I do it and try to actively work on listening during conversations. I honestly donāt know why I do it. I donāt have any form of focus issues. Iām just a type A person with probably a slightly lower than normal filter, so if I think it I often say it before processing if I should. You wouldnāt have to snap at me, but when I do interrupt I usually catch myself or notice if I get the look or someone says something like āas I was sayingā etc. We all have traits we donāt like about ourselves and this is one of mine, but I pride myself on being pretty self-aware of my flaws and work to fix them or at least hide them! She does not care to change it. I went in this morning, took her a cupcake that I know she loves, and apologized again. Today she is doing the "you hurt me terribly but I reluctantly forgive you" thing. Then she texted me and said she knows she interrupts and is sorry and doesn't mean anything by it, but that she was glad I had "stepped up" with another apology. I responded back that her frequent interruptions make me feel demeaned and dismissed, as if she believes my words are less important than hers. I said that my feelings don't excuse my snapping at her, but that I do feel that way. No response. I chose not to eat lunch with the group today and am sitting in my classroom instead. Based on what she's told us about her family interactions, she is the baby in the family and is used to having her "quirks" overlooked. She seems to feel, even at the age of 42, that she is just so damn cute and talented that anyone can and should forgive her anything. She needs constant attention and praise for herself and her daughter, who is a first grader.Ā Clearly my issues with her are deeper than just her interrupting. That's a symptom of a larger problem, which is that I find her obnoxious, overbearing, and self-absorbed. Ha. I've spent almost two years being patient and professional with her and I am over it! I think you were trying to be nice by taking her a cupcake but she read that as validation that she is in the right. Yes, maybe you shouldnāt have snapped but where is her apology for interrupting you? No cupcake for her!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 3, 2022 12:43:45 GMT
Honest question for those who say they feel the need to get their thought out before they forget it - is it necessary to inject every thought you have into the conversation? Or could you participate just with the thoughts that come up at appropriate times to share? As an introvert who shares out loud only a fraction of what I actually think, Iām having a hard time understanding why every single thought must be voiced. Iām not trying to pick on anyone here who struggles with this - I guess Iām trying to better understand my coworker. As an introvert, Iāve had to work hard to develop conversational skills so that my friendships and work life donāt suffer. Iāve learned that asking about others is a better way to keep the conversation moving than to spout out every thought I have. Do extroverted people not feel a similar pressure and responsibility to make themselves socially acceptable? Iām not sure we can assume that only extroverts are interrupters/blurters who who feel compelled to get a thought out post haste. The interrupter in my life is an introvert who claims memory issues are partly behind his tendency. Interestingly, he also says that he interrupts (more like finishes othersā sentences) precisely because of what youāre describing: he wants to signal to the other person that heās engaged and listening. Yeah, ironic. Iām also an introvert who can forget my thought when waiting out a talky extrovert, so my potential blurting is borne of a need to get a word in edgewise. I use the trick of visualizing my thought by āholding itā between two fingers. Or I put my hand in the handshape of a sign (sign language) that will help me remember. (Yeah, not a general skill). If Iām on the phone, I have literally jotted down (phone or paper) Things-Plural I need to say. [This is more like information that NEEDS to be shared with someone(s) whoāve wandered down several side roads; I also did this at IEP meetings, faculty meetings, team meetings (ānuff said).]
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Post by Merge on Mar 3, 2022 14:25:37 GMT
Honest question for those who say they feel the need to get their thought out before they forget it - is it necessary to inject every thought you have into the conversation? Or could you participate just with the thoughts that come up at appropriate times to share? As an introvert who shares out loud only a fraction of what I actually think, Iām having a hard time understanding why every single thought must be voiced. Iām not trying to pick on anyone here who struggles with this - I guess Iām trying to better understand my coworker. As an introvert, Iāve had to work hard to develop conversational skills so that my friendships and work life donāt suffer. Iāve learned that asking about others is a better way to keep the conversation moving than to spout out every thought I have. Do extroverted people not feel a similar pressure and responsibility to make themselves socially acceptable? Iām not sure we can assume that only extroverts are interrupters/blurters who who feel compelled to get a thought out post haste. The interrupter in my life is an introvert who claims memory issues are partly behind his tendency. Interestingly, he also says that he interrupts (more like finishes othersā sentences) precisely because of what youāre describing: he wants to signal to the other person that heās engaged and listening. Yeah, ironic. Iām also an introvert who can forget my thought when waiting out a talky extrovert, so my potential blurting is borne of a need to get a word in edgewise. I use the trick of visualizing my thought by āholding itā between two fingers. Or I put my hand in the handshape of a sign (sign language) that will help me remember. (Yeah, not a general skill). If Iām on the phone, I have literally jotted down (phone or paper) Things-Plural I need to say. [This is more like information that NEEDS to be shared with someone(s) whoāve wandered down several side roads; I also did this at IEP meetings, faculty meetings, team meetings (ānuff said).] That's fair. Let's say "people who talk a lot" and "people who don't talk a lot" then. I tend not to talk a lot, but like everyone else, I've sometimes had something I wanted to say but forgot it in the course of conversation. I'm not a fan of small talk, so when i do add something to the conversation, it tends to be something I've considered before saying it. The less consequential stuff I forget probably wouldn't have added much anyway. I agree that there are strategies we can all use to help remember important thoughts rather than blurting them out. I also jot down notes in meetings so I can bring stuff up. The chat feature in a Zoom meeting is actually brilliant for this. I've had admin who used a "parking lot" board for questions or thoughts - you write what you wanted to say or ask on a sticky and put it on the parking lot board, so it can be brought up during a break. But I also think that, in a conversation that isn't essential (work related/IEP meetings/etc.), it's good for all of us to realize that not every thought we have is pure gold and needs to be voiced. To me, that is basic courtesy and consideration for others - reminding myself that no one needs the benefit of every opinion I have. Of course, that only works if everyone is operating from the same understanding. It was also mentioned up above that some people listen to reply, and some listen to understand. I think that people who talk recreationally sometimes forget that the point of listening is not necessarily to reply before understanding. My husband and I learned in therapy when we were first married that when one of us shares, the other should consider whether we're looking for help and ideas or just sympathy and understanding. DH will still ask me, when I tell him about something I'm dealing with, "Do you want ideas or sympathy?" It's worked well for us. It's hard, when you're looking for sympathy and understanding, to deal with someone who appears not to care about that, and instead wants to interrupt and talk over you to share all their ideas on the matter. Anyway, I appreciate everyone's perspectives on this. I'm still feeling prickly toward my coworker this morning, so we'll see how the day goes.
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Post by malibou on Mar 3, 2022 15:50:53 GMT
What an interesting topic.
When Ds was little, he was quite the interrupter. We reminded him a lot to wait his turn and to listen to hear, not respond. As an adult he is so so much better.
I'm not per say an interrupter, as I don't interject with thoughts of monologues, but I tend towards what dh calls active listening, in which I interject with words that say I'm listening. So I might blurt out something like, Exactly!, as a person describes something that happened. Or, I get it, to signal I heard them.
I try not to do this.
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