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Post by Merge on Mar 20, 2022 18:42:51 GMT
For what it’s worth, Texas music teacher forums are unloading hard on the band directors. We expect better than this. We are better than this. I’m hopeful that TMEA and UIL will address racist mascots/chants/traditions in our schools and possibly sanction programs that perpetuate these harmful stereotypes. That’s good. I just don’t want one single teacher or one single director to get blamed for this incident. Teachers aren’t in a position to change the school mascot, school song, or fight song. Those are decisions that need to come from admin. I’m not saying that teachers shouldn’t object or try to affect change, just that this need to be addressed at the district level. The teachers have total control over what their Disney parade program looks like and how they represent the school to the wider world. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 20, 2022 19:01:06 GMT
That’s good. I just don’t want one single teacher or one single director to get blamed for this incident. Teachers aren’t in a position to change the school mascot, school song, or fight song. Those are decisions that need to come from admin. I’m not saying that teachers shouldn’t object or try to affect change, just that this need to be addressed at the district level. The teachers have total control over what their Disney parade program looks like and how they represent the school to the wider world. So? Is the issue that this was performed at Disney or is the issue that an entire school district from the superintendent down to the parents thinks this song is appropriate? This is the exact definition of scapegoating. Blaming one person for how they got caught as opposed to holding the organization responsible for their actions. |
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Post by Merge on Mar 20, 2022 19:07:58 GMT
The teachers have total control over what their Disney parade program looks like and how they represent the school to the wider world. So? Is the issue that this was performed at Disney or is the issue that an entire school district from the superintendent down to the parents thinks this song is appropriate? This is the exact definition of scapegoating. Blaming one person for how they got caught as opposed to holding the organization responsible for their actions. Different levels of accountability for different stakeholders. Public and professional censure for the teachers who made the poor decision to trot that out in front of children. More serious repercussions for the district and community that continue to support it. Exclude their bands and sports teams from UIL competition until changes are made. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 19:19:03 GMT
I’m a drill team girl from Texas, so I have LOTS of thoughts and opinions about this situation, but the other thing I really want to make clear is that I hate that this is being portrayed as a problem with the drill team. Let me explain. The words they are saying are the school’s fight song. The drill team did not write the song. There are videos of the song being chanted at school wide pep rallies and assemblies. There are videos of elementary school kids at the school that feeds into this high school singing the song. The band is playing the song while the drill team performs during that parade at Disney. Those dance moves go back generations they were not choreographed by the current team or current director. It is not a new routine. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not at all saying it’s ok because it’s a tradition. What I am saying is that this is a school wide issue with responsibility at the district admin level and it needs to be addressed as such. It would be so easy to sweep it under the rug by reprimanding the drill team instructor and that’s not what needs to happen to fix the situation. I mean, the band is literally participating in that performance in the video and no one is talking about the band. I’m just saying I hope the district doesn’t throw up their hands and claim they didn’t know, leaving responsibility solely on the drill team, the way Disney did. The only reason why I didn't say anything about the band was I have sound muted on my phone so I didn't hear anything. My comments were from just the moves alone. There's a school local to me that had been the Redskins since they opened. It was only in the past few years did they finally listen to the local tribe and changed to the Redhawks, allowing them to keep their school colors and the feather accent that shows up on some stuff. I don't remember what their fight song said. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 19:56:55 GMT
AND that Native Americans have it coming because they did have a violent pastUnlike the Settlers, right? Maybe a team can call itself the Settlers and have a fight song about "Infect 'em, Settlers!" Or a team can call itself the Southerners and have a fight song about "Lynch 'em, Southerners!" That wouldn't be at all OFFENSIVE, right? Cuz it's about tradition and about people "who did have a violent past". |
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 20, 2022 20:54:57 GMT
I'm in California and the local high school here is "The Indians". When I graduated it was 2002 and even then it was a little bit cringe. I am shocked every year that they continue to not address the name and the problems with some of the school mottos and chants. Back when I was there everyone in the crowd at the football games did an arm chopping motion to a certain song that was supposed to symbolize a tomahawk. I remember the first time seeing it looking around like "Everyone thinks this is cool??" And again, that was in the late 90s early 2000s. There's no excuse for this type of thing anymore.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 20, 2022 21:01:04 GMT
I’m surprised that they haven’t gotten any negative attention from anyone within the school or other schools that they play. What is shown in those pics above is horrible.
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Post by ellen on Mar 20, 2022 21:18:42 GMT
That was worse than I was expecting. Amazing that their drill team instructor would take that show on the road, but when you read the response from the school you can see why they probably thought it was ok. They have an issue to address at their school, but they seem to think the problem is with everyone else, not them. Glad I don't live there.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 20, 2022 21:26:09 GMT
I’m surprised that they haven’t gotten any negative attention from anyone within the school or other schools that they play. What is shown in those pics above is horrible. They’re not going to in Texas. We have tons of high schools that are still the Indians and the drill teams are the Indianettes and the mascots are similar to this school’s. One of the high schools right by me is the Indians. Up until 2 years ago a high school by me was the Rebels, their logo was a Confederate flag, and their mascot was a Confederate soldier. In 2020. And it was HUGELY controversial when they changed. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 20, 2022 21:51:57 GMT
But they changed!! That is the difference!! They changed!
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Post by zella on Mar 20, 2022 22:59:22 GMT
When you know better you do better. We know better now. And those who don't do better are assholes. Period.
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