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Post by buddysmom on Mar 30, 2022 14:13:53 GMT
It's been almost 6 months since I had my booster. I'm going on a cruise in June so I will probably wait until toward the end of April and get my second booster based on info at this time.
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 30, 2022 14:21:25 GMT
I'm going to wait a bit; talk to my doctor - I would imagine if it's recommended and if our numbers spike I'll get it. But I'm going to wait and see a bit. I don't have any issue with it - I just want to make sure I don't get it too early and then feel like I'm not protected come wintertime. I think that's where I'm landing on this. I'm not a super high risk except for weight and I'm 50, and I have gotten my other 3 shots. In the absence of other information, I think I will hold off for now and go for one in the early fall. But of course, as we've seen in the last 2 years, things can change quickly!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 30, 2022 14:24:28 GMT
Studies in Europe have said that getting too many of the booster shots may weaken your immune response. Israel is reporting that a fourth vaccine doesn't produce enough antibodies to protect against the virus. England and Israel are pretty good indicators of what the US should do. I'm not going to get it until I can't get my frozen shoulders under control (from the initial shots last year). I don't really see any reason to get it when the numbers will be low. Remember, it's a matter of when, not if, you get it. Maybe next fall but by then we will be on the 6th booster. We need to slow this down. As soon as they think the immunity is waning, they jump in with "We need another shot, stat". The drug companies said 3 or 4 weeks between initial shots while England found that it was better to wait for 6 weeks. I'm completely certain the drug companies are doing this to make money.I am pretty certain I had it a few weeks ago. I tested negative with the home tests but I was completely run down for a week and a half, had a weird cough and had some issues with breathing. I never went and got a PCR test. My husband didn't get it. The UK basically found out about the timing by accident. Vaccine inventory and a desire to vaccinate as many people as possible led to the timing decision, not scientific prescience. As a result of what was discovered because of that pragmatic choice, many experts do now believe that the number of weeks between the first and second shot should be longer. That hasn’t happened yet. Exactly how much benefit would drug companies get from three weeks versus six weeks? They’re still producing/selling two shots. (By the way, many experts also believe but the mRNA vaccines should be a three-shot vaccination series, not two shots and a booster. That doesn’t mean the drug companies are pushing unnecessary third shots. Research and experience drives results. Unfortunately, politics and public behavior/expectations often drives if and how quickly these results turn into recommendations and decisions.)
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 30, 2022 14:26:43 GMT
Those of you with the J&J....I am pretty certain I saw an article a couple weeks back that over the surges last December, that J&J had shown the more long term protection. We heard the opposite earlier on, I thought, about it not being as effective. I do not remember where I saw it, either on CNN or llnked up in Drudge. I am too lazy this morning to go back through my history.
ETA: Was CNN. Found it. linkWorth a google, as there may be some new info. I didn’t read your link yet. (I will.) The epidemiologist podcast I listen to just said last week that research is indicating that the J&J might actually end up giving a longer, more robust protection because of its T cell strengthening. (Not sure “strengthening” is the right word, but you get the idea.)
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Post by maryland on Mar 30, 2022 14:44:28 GMT
I have had all 3 so far, but am not going to be jumping at this one. I was under the impression that we might need a booster every Fall and I can get on board with that. But am I going to get them every 4 months, at this point I do not intend to. I was very much on board with we should all be doing our part and getting vaccinated, but at this point i've done my part and would like to see where things are going. That's what I am thinking. I am so tired of always doing the right thing and so many people not getting vaccinated and stepping up to the plate to do their part. I don't want my husband nagging me about it. He thinks every sniffle is covid. He will get the booster asap. That's great but don't expect me to. I have already gotten three shots, still wear my mask everywhere, don't get together with people inside, don't go to restaruants. I am happy to do this but I will wait until fall for a booster.
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Post by CardBoxer on Mar 30, 2022 15:16:05 GMT
I’m medically and needle phobic and was taught self hypnosis techniques in order to force myself to go to the dentist and to stop gagging. Reading/typing about this makes me feel a stab in my arm - I’m that stupidly suggestible.
But I will get it since I’m high risk: age, weight and if I get a cold it morphs into bronchitis, sinus infection and cough-variant asthma, once landing me in the hospital.
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Post by smartypants71 on Mar 30, 2022 15:27:47 GMT
I'll get it eventually. I just turned 50 so I need to work it into my Shingles vaccine schedule. I'd like to space those out as much as I can. But typically, my stance in life is that if there is a vaccine for something, I'm getting it. I don't ever want to be restricted from going places I'd like to go.
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Post by peabay on Mar 30, 2022 15:43:48 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:39:01 GMT
The drug companies said 3 or 4 weeks between initial shots while England found that it was better to wait for 6 weeks. I'm completely certain the drug companies are doing this to make money. It has never been 6 weeks in England. Originally it was 12 weeks between first & second jab this was later reduced to 8 weeks between jabs but was nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine. The booster was given 2 months after the date of the second jab. The spring booster which is what we call this latest one is given 6 months after your last booster for 75 and over, care home residents/patients and anyone over 12 with a weakened immune system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:42:34 GMT
The drug companies said 3 or 4 weeks between initial shots while England found that it was better to wait for 6 weeks. I'm completely certain the drug companies are doing this to make money. It has never been 6 weeks in England. Originally it was 12 weeks between first & second jab this was later reduced to 8 weeks between jabs but was nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine. The booster was given 2 months after the date of the second jab. The spring booster which is what we call this latest one is given 6 months after your last booster for 75 and over, care home residents/patients and anyone over 12 with a weakened immune system. Didn't they also have a bigger space between dose 1 and dose 2 to help more people get vaccinated due to short supplies at first?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:44:27 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa. Allergy will be looking into seeing if it is safe for me to get Moderna as it's a different make up and 1/2 dose compared to Pfizer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 17:21:29 GMT
It has never been 6 weeks in England. Originally it was 12 weeks between first & second jab this was later reduced to 8 weeks between jabs but was nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine. The booster was given 2 months after the date of the second jab. The spring booster which is what we call this latest one is given 6 months after your last booster for 75 and over, care home residents/patients and anyone over 12 with a weakened immune system. Didn't they also have a bigger space between dose 1 and dose 2 to help more people get vaccinated due to short supplies at first? Yes, as I mentioned in the post you've just quoted, it was 12 weeks. It wasn't really about short supplies, which we've never really experienced. They needed to get as many people as possible jabbed with at least some protection - one jab is better than non. They looked into it very carefully before extending the gap and what the JCVI ( Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation) found was that the difference in efficacy between the manufacturers recommended time gap and the 12 weeks they came up with having studied the data was miniscule to have much affect on the efficacy.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 30, 2022 17:28:49 GMT
I'm 61, have had a total of 3 vaccinations against Covid (all Modera). My last vaccination was this past January.
When I qualify for this next booster I will be getting it. So far no one in my family has gotten Covid and I'd like to do all I can to keep it that way.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 30, 2022 17:40:21 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa. Allergy will be looking into seeing if it is safe for me to get Moderna as it's a different make up and 1/2 dose compared to Pfizer. If I understand correctly then yes Moderna is half a dose, but it’s half of their 100 units original dose, making it 50 units. Pfizer’s full dose is only 30 units. Can anyone confirm? This is why I chose to have a Moderna booster when my original shots were Pfizer. But what you said makes sense peabay so I’m even happier about my decision now. I didn’t read your link yet. (I will.) The epidemiologist podcast I listen to just said last week that research is indicating that the J&J might actually end up giving a longer, more robust protection because of its T cell strengthening. (Not sure “strengthening” is the right word, but you get the idea.) That’s exciting news. I especially hope that holds true for the immunocompromised who don’t have a good antibody response. But isn’t J&J the one that caused blood clots? Or was that AZ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 17:53:58 GMT
Allergy will be looking into seeing if it is safe for me to get Moderna as it's a different make up and 1/2 dose compared to Pfizer. If I understand correctly then yes Moderna is half a dose, but it’s half of their 100 units original dose, making it 50 units. Pfizer’s full dose is only 30 units. Can anyone confirm? This is why I chose to have a Moderna booster when my original shots were Pfizer. But what you said makes sense peabay so I’m even happier about my decision now. I didn’t read your link yet. (I will.) The epidemiologist podcast I listen to just said last week that research is indicating that the J&J might actually end up giving a longer, more robust protection because of its T cell strengthening. (Not sure “strengthening” is the right word, but you get the idea.) That’s exciting news. I especially hope that holds true for the immunocompromised who don’t have a good antibody response. But isn’t J&J the one that caused blood clots? Or was that AZ? J&J It was widely used in the ID/Disabled community but with strick warnings for those who had medical conditions due to the clotting issue. Ds' doctors advised not to get it if it opened up to his age group. He ended up getting Pfizer.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 30, 2022 17:58:27 GMT
If I understand correctly then yes Moderna is half a dose, but it’s half of their 100 units original dose, making it 50 units. Pfizer’s full dose is only 30 units. Can anyone confirm? This is why I chose to have a Moderna booster when my original shots were Pfizer. But what you said makes sense peabay so I’m even happier about my decision now. That’s exciting news. I especially hope that holds true for the immunocompromised who don’t have a good antibody response. But isn’t J&J the one that caused blood clots? Or was that AZ? J&J It was widely used in the ID/Disabled community but with strick warnings for those who had medical conditions due to the clotting issue. Ds' doctors advised not to get it if it opened up to his age group. He ended up getting Pfizer. Well, dang it. DH is immunocompromised but also has clotting issues. Will have him ask his doctor just in case his medication might help mitigate the risks, but am less hopeful now. What does the ID/disabled stand for?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 18:04:11 GMT
J&J It was widely used in the ID/Disabled community but with strick warnings for those who had medical conditions due to the clotting issue. Ds' doctors advised not to get it if it opened up to his age group. He ended up getting Pfizer. Well, dang it. DH is immunocompromised but also has clotting issues. Will have him ask his doctor just in case his medication might help mitigate the risks, but am less hopeful now. What does the ID/disabled stand for? ID = intellectual disability Disabled = in this instance any client of the Regional Centers as well as another other person with a disability. The 1 and done made it easier to get the vaccine to higher risk persons, especially those who have a hard time being out, are in group homes, or have medical anxiety. It allowed the caregivers the know they were protecting their client/child without having to have multiple trips. And many times, because it didnt need to be kept as cold and lasted longer once out, they were able to hold drive thru events for the ID/Disabled communities so that those persons could be comfortable in a safe space without being in a noisy, chaotic environment. ETA ds has a history of pulmonary hypertension and has had several blood transfusions due to a specific type of anemia so it was advised not to get the JJ.
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Post by quinlove on Mar 30, 2022 18:08:45 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa. Thank you for this. I was going to post here about which one to get. I’ve gotten 3 Moderna. I also think that I read recently that the 2nd Moderna booster is half strength, where the Pfizer is still the same full strength. Is that true ? And, while I’m asking, do they expire before receiving one ? Where I live there has not been a high vaccination rate, so I’m wondering if my pharmacy has a bunch of *old* ones ( I mean, close to expiration date ) or will they all be getting new shipments since the new guidelines. Thanks so much. I’m 71 and concerned.
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Post by peabay on Mar 30, 2022 18:12:30 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa. Thank you for this. I was going to post here about which one to get. I’ve gotten 3 Moderna. I also think that I read recently that the 2nd Moderna booster is half strength, where the Pfizer is still the same full strength. Is that true ? And, while I’m asking, do they expire before receiving one ? Where I live there has not been a high vaccination rate, so I’m wondering if my pharmacy has a bunch of *old* ones or will they all be getting new shipments since the new guidelines. Thanks so much. I’m 71 and concerned. I don't know how to answer either question. But here's a link to his podcast - he encourages questions: Microbe.TV
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Post by Gennifer on Mar 30, 2022 18:24:00 GMT
I’m not in the age group that’s eligible, but I imagine I will get it when I am. I might delay it a bit so it’s closer to winter, though.
My household has remained COVID-free… shockingly, since 5 of the 7 of us work directly with the public and my area has been very anti-mask. I’d love to keep us that way.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 30, 2022 18:44:23 GMT
I am under 50 and have no health conditions that make me vulnerable; my understanding is that the booster is not yet recommended for people in my position. When and if it is recommended, I will get it. I did have side effects from my booster that took me out of commission for about 36 hours, so if I get it, I will need to plan ahead.
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Post by kristi521 on Mar 30, 2022 18:45:09 GMT
Pulmonologist said yes . I have had 3 Pfizer he said get Moderna. Waiting for the time frame for now, 4 months would be now, 6 months a wait. Just curious on the reasoning why he said to get Moderna after 3 Pfizer (if he provided an explanation that is)?
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Post by dewryce on Mar 30, 2022 19:15:05 GMT
Thanks for the info @sunnycamom. I have read about drives and other accommodations to help different groups vaccinated, but not for this one. I used to work in one of these group homes and I can see how the one shot would be especially beneficial.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2022 19:47:37 GMT
Pulmonologist said yes . I have had 3 Pfizer he said get Moderna. Waiting for the time frame for now, 4 months would be now, 6 months a wait. Just curious on the reasoning why he said to get Moderna after 3 Pfizer (if he provided an explanation that is)? I wanted to mix for the first booster but the local health dept wouldn't do it. He has mixed his now .. the formulas are a bit different so might have a bit better coverage. I'll get which ever..
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 30, 2022 20:16:44 GMT
I've had Moderna for original and booster. I got my booster on Oct 31.
I'll be only 47 in June, but have health items that make me high risk. I'll get a booster. As long as the numbers stay low, I may push it out. We'll see.
ETA: I also don't believe the mantra of some that "it's just IF you'll get it, but WHEN you'll get it". I think that's just some BS that is spouted to make people feel better about the fact that maybe the didn't do all the could to prevent getting it. To be very clear, I'm NOT pointing fingers at anyone here. It is NOT a forgone conclusion that everyone has to get Covid.
I've never even had the need to be tested for Covid. It is possible.
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Post by gizzy on Mar 30, 2022 21:39:46 GMT
Just an FYI I heard on NPR this morning: a virologist (who hosts the podcast "This Week in Virology") said if you can, wait; and if you can, get the "other" vaccine from the one you got. They can offer different protections, so if you got Pfizer, get the Moderna booster and vice versa. I've been listening to his youtube videos for a few years now & appreciate listening to him & his colleagues.
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