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Post by katlady on Apr 7, 2022 19:31:13 GMT
There is this teen who has a huge following on TikTok. As a result, she has stalkers. One stalker was shot and killed by her father when he showed up at the house. She continues to post, her parents support her decision. She mainly posts lip syncing and dancing videos. www.yahoo.com/news/timeline-ava-majury-case-15-084054614.htmlIf it was my daughter, and she was under 18, I would have her get off of social media. I know they want to express themselves, but I would tell her do it after she is 18, and then I would hope she would have enough sense to not do it after 18. Or, make a private account just for friends. But I know that she wants the recognition. She also probably makes a nice income from these videos. Sigh, I am glad I have boys and they don’t do much on social media.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 7, 2022 19:38:04 GMT
I just wouldn’t let my teens have social media.
My kids don’t have FB, Insta, TikTok, or Snapchat.
They have phones, which I have access to at all times and check regularly, and they can text, call, or FaceTime their friends whenever they want.
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Post by caangel on Apr 7, 2022 19:54:08 GMT
I have told my kids I would never wish being famous on someone. Rich, yes, famous no.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 7, 2022 19:59:16 GMT
What does the teen on TT do? is she in movies? entertainment? or tt fame? If you have a lot of followers, you can make good money. I'm sure her family supports her due to this. What I would do is step up here security at their home. I mean, this can happen to anyone as a celebrity whether or not they are on social media. these days, you have to be on social media to brand yourself, esp starting out. Yes, when you're big you can cut back. My girls always had FB and other social media. I had access to their accounts. I guess I never really worried, though the youngest had some drama with a boy on IM on FB. I would rather have them figure out social media, and all it's good and bad, and learn responsibility from it, then shelter them from it. How else do you think they learn?
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 7, 2022 20:04:38 GMT
What does the teen on TT do? is she in movies? entertainment? or tt fame? If you have a lot of followers, you can make good money. I'm sure her family supports her due to this. What I would do is step up here security at their home. I mean, this can happen to anyone as a celebrity whether or not they are on social media. these days, you have to be on social media to brand yourself, esp starting out. Yes, when you're big you can cut back. My girls always had FB and other social media. I had access to their accounts. I guess I never really worried, though the youngest had some drama with a boy on IM on FB. I would rather have them figure out social media, and all it's good and bad, and learn responsibility from it, then shelter them from it. How else do you think they learn? She makes a TON of money. This story is local to me here in my snowbird home. The parents are of the "our daughter ought to be able to do what she wants without being stalked", and I rather agree. HOWEVER. At what point do you decide it isn't worth it? We have friends that live in their neighborhood, and they're all kinda freaked out. It's not just the security of the girl that is in question, what happens when something huge happens that involves the whole street?
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 7, 2022 20:14:19 GMT
The vibe I'm getting is she hopes to leverage this into more followers/more income.
Her sole purpose on TT is to be an influencer and build a following. Most people I know IRL have private accounts and know all their followers.
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Post by padresfan619 on Apr 7, 2022 20:22:03 GMT
And people think I’m strange because I don’t post my son’s full name or photo on social media on a regular basis.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 7, 2022 20:23:13 GMT
Her videos are already out there. Even if she takes down her account, the videos won’t disappear.
If it were my child and her account was already this popular, I’d coach her on being smart and being safe. The stalker won’t hurt her anymore, although there’s always the chance of a new one getting through. I’d install the best security system that I could afford and I’d use it. I’d have motion sensor lights, bright lights, and alarms. Hopefully she can park in the garage and get in the house that way. I’d ask the police or private security to keep an eye on the house with regular drive byes. Yes, I’d say that her earnings have to pay for at least part of it.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 7, 2022 21:00:05 GMT
I just looked at a couple of the TikTok videos. So she just stands there and is somewhat lip-synching to a song? That is what has made her such a big following? Yes, she is a pretty young girl, but I don't see any talent being displayed there at all. I can understand wanting your child to be able to express themselves, but if my daughter was doing this and brought this kind of negative attention to herself, especially to the point of a person being shot and killed, I would have to pull the plug on it. Especially since she isn't showing any learned or natural talent like playing an instrument or actually singing on her own. Better she be alive and upset with me than possibly kidnapped or killed. I don't blame the neighborhood for being upset. What if the stalker got the wrong house and entered one of their homes by mistake? I think sometimes cases like these are more about the parent feeling that the child's popularity reflects back upon themselves. They like being the parent of a popular kid to boost their own ego. Sad.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 7, 2022 21:32:38 GMT
What does the teen on TT do? is she in movies? entertainment? or tt fame? If you have a lot of followers, you can make good money. I'm sure her family supports her due to this. That's the problem, right? She is 15. If she is doing this to make a lot of money, I worry that the family has . . . some bad incentives here.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 7, 2022 21:39:56 GMT
And people think I’m strange because I don’t post my son’s full name or photo on social media on a regular basis. How does that have anything to do with this story??!
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Post by 16joy on Apr 7, 2022 21:41:50 GMT
I saw her on TV and she said she made $14,000 a month. That may be reason enough for her to continue. I’m not sure another stalker will try to enter her home with her dad being good with a weapon
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 7, 2022 21:41:52 GMT
I just looked at a couple of the TikTok videos. So she just stands there and is somewhat lip-synching to a song? That is what has made her such a big following? Yes, she is a pretty young girl, but I don't see any talent being displayed there at all. I can understand wanting your child to be able to express themselves, but if my daughter was doing this and brought this kind of negative attention to herself, especially to the point of a person being shot and killed, I would have to pull the plug on it. Especially since she isn't showing any learned or natural talent like playing an instrument or actually singing on her own. Better she be alive and upset with me than possibly kidnapped or killed. I don't blame the neighborhood for being upset. What if the stalker got the wrong house and entered one of their homes by mistake? I think sometimes cases like these are more about the parent feeling that the child's popularity reflects back upon themselves. They like being the parent of a popular kid to boost their own ego. Sad. That literally could happen to anyone, anytime, without being a TT star. Many TTs have gone on to big careers, you just don't know what all she can do. It gets her name out there. AND we don't know if she's become the main money supporter in her family right now.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 7, 2022 21:43:04 GMT
That's the problem, right? She is 15. If she is doing this to make a lot of money, I worry that the family has . . . some bad incentives here. A lot of child actors,singers, theater, etc etc. It's the hope that the family is looking out for the child. Is killing their career the only way they can look out for them?
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Post by padresfan619 on Apr 7, 2022 21:46:26 GMT
And people think I’m strange because I don’t post my son’s full name or photo on social media on a regular basis. How does that have anything to do with this story??! Starting a digital footprint at a young age is very scary and can lead to awful things, like stalking and “innocent” videos and pictures ending up in scary places. Even if your accounts are private.
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Post by maryland on Apr 7, 2022 21:57:50 GMT
I don't know much about social media and am new to instagram. But when I hit the "search" on instagram, they have cooking stuff, that I enjoy, but a lot of stuff I have no idea why it's on there. But what is odd, is so many people have pictures of their young and toddler daughters (not many sons) dressed up to look like a teen/young woman posted for all the world to see! I don't know why someone would put their kid out there like that.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 7, 2022 22:00:55 GMT
And people think I’m strange because I don’t post my son’s full name or photo on social media on a regular basis. This is the stance I have taken too. I just don’t do it. I feel like when my kid is old enough to establish her own digital footprint she can do so, but for now while she is underage that doesn’t need to be something she should concern herself with. I hope when she is old enough to have her own accounts she has the sense to not do anything too stupid that will plague her in real life.
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Post by padresfan619 on Apr 7, 2022 22:10:17 GMT
And people think I’m strange because I don’t post my son’s full name or photo on social media on a regular basis. This is the stance I have taken too. I just don’t do it. I feel like when my kid is old enough to establish her own digital footprint she can do so, but for now while she is underage that doesn’t need to be something she should concern herself with. I hope when she is old enough to have her own accounts she has the sense to not do anything too stupid that will plague her in real life. I feel the same, sometimes I take some really cute pictures that I wish I could share but I just send them to close family instead. I don’t want my son to be upset that I posted things he didn’t want out in the world just for some temporary serotonin from the likes I received.
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Post by peabay on Apr 7, 2022 23:17:41 GMT
I wouldn't have allowed my 15 year old to start this in the first place. Why in the world would anyone encourage or allow their child to parade themselves in front of the world? There are dangerous and sick people out there watching these kids.
The tiktok account would be gone for sure. I don't understand this obsession with fame.
She's earning money for the family? She's 15 - she should be scooping ice cream or folding shirts at the Gap.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 8, 2022 0:06:27 GMT
Maybe her passion is this TT thing and not ice cream or sports or whatever. Plenty of parents farm their kids out to multiple extra curricular activities hoping it will turn in to something big. It’s not that much different. I live no where near any of my family. Sharing pics of my kids growing up and events etc was the norm. It kept all of us connected. All my accounts are private. I totally feel safe in doing that. As my girls got older I asked them if it was ok to share and they had their own accounts to share their pics and stuff with their grandparents, couisons and friends.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 8, 2022 0:14:06 GMT
Maybe her passion is this TT thing and not ice cream or sports or whatever. Plenty of parents farm their kids out to multiple extra curricular activities hoping it will turn in to something big. It’s not that much different. I live no where near any of my family. Sharing pics of my kids growing up and events etc was the norm. It kept all of us connected. All my accounts are private. I totally feel safe in doing that. As my girls got older I asked them if it was ok to share and they had their own accounts to share their pics and stuff with their grandparents, couisons and friends. Yea, well, lots of kids have a passion for video games and the internet. That doesn’t mean their parents have to feed into their delusion of turning that into a career. This girl has no talent. Her followers are all creepy old men who aren’t admiring her lip synching. Her parents know that and are ok with virtually prostituting their daughter for someone’s spank bank. Quit pretending this is in any way equivalent to someone who has the talent to be a singer or actor. This problem is made and facilitated by the parents. They should step up and parent by saying hey, this isn’t appropriate for a 15 yr old.
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Post by peabay on Apr 8, 2022 0:40:36 GMT
Maybe her passion is this TT thing and not ice cream or sports or whatever. Plenty of parents farm their kids out to multiple extra curricular activities hoping it will turn in to something big. It’s not that much different. I live no where near any of my family. Sharing pics of my kids growing up and events etc was the norm. It kept all of us connected. All my accounts are private. I totally feel safe in doing that. As my girls got older I asked them if it was ok to share and they had their own accounts to share their pics and stuff with their grandparents, couisons and friends. It's a parent's job to tell a kid "let's channel this passion of yours into something healthier." Two stalkers later should tell a parent that maybe this isn't the healthiest environment for a teenager.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 8, 2022 1:00:59 GMT
Any professional person can have a stalker. Heck drs, nurses, lawyers have stalkers. Yes parents need to parent, and there are bad parents, but the internet and social media isn’t the big bad villain.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 8, 2022 1:01:00 GMT
That's the problem, right? She is 15. If she is doing this to make a lot of money, I worry that the family has . . . some bad incentives here. A lot of child actors,singers, theater, etc etc. It's the hope that the family is looking out for the child. Is killing their career the only way they can look out for them? If the way in which the child makes money is to develop parasocial relationships with people while a minor, yeah, maybe. I think the whole world of child entertainment is dicey, particularly when the parents are dependent on income from the child. I think that when the child's success depends on people imagining they have a sort of connection with this person through social media, that is dicier.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 8, 2022 6:37:55 GMT
I just looked at a couple of the TikTok videos. So she just stands there and is somewhat lip-synching to a song? That is what has made her such a big following? Yes, she is a pretty young girl, but I don't see any talent being displayed there at all. I can understand wanting your child to be able to express themselves, but if my daughter was doing this and brought this kind of negative attention to herself, especially to the point of a person being shot and killed, I would have to pull the plug on it. Especially since she isn't showing any learned or natural talent like playing an instrument or actually singing on her own. Better she be alive and upset with me than possibly kidnapped or killed. I don't blame the neighborhood for being upset. What if the stalker got the wrong house and entered one of their homes by mistake? I think sometimes cases like these are more about the parent feeling that the child's popularity reflects back upon themselves. They like being the parent of a popular kid to boost their own ego. Sad. That literally could happen to anyone, anytime, without being a TT star. Many TTs have gone on to big careers, you just don't know what all she can do. It gets her name out there. AND we don't know if she's become the main money supporter in her family right now. I absolutely hope this 15-year-old child is NOT “the main money supporter in her family right now.” If she is, there is more wrong here than I imagined. I understand she is making good money and is selling photos of herself, but I truly hope she is being allowed to put that money away to be used for college, a good car, or her own home and is not being used to support her parents. A child should not be expected to financially support their parents. I firmly believe that is too much pressure on a child.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Apr 8, 2022 8:21:01 GMT
There is no way videos of this child should be available to anyone in the world who has internet. That’s just creepy.
Between the money, and the parents probably being proud they have a pretty daughter, they’ve blinded themselves to their job as parents.
Killing another human being should be a big deal. BIG. Even if it is justified. Acting like it’s an inconvenience that shouldn’t get in the way of all that money and vanity is sickening.
Career? Get real. The novelty is she’s a young girl. Does she think the hordes will continue to tune in when she’s an adult? And how is this skewed reality preparing her for real life? An actual job with work for average wages is going to seem extremely disappointing.
Yeesh
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 8, 2022 11:30:19 GMT
Her parents have completely dropped the ball. Part of the role of parents is to make decisions in order to protect our children. They've already seen the dark and seedy side of social media, and yet are making the decision to throw her back in there. Their job is to help keep her safe and to help her learn to make good decisions. Sounds like the money is overriding that.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 8, 2022 11:33:46 GMT
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 8, 2022 13:31:39 GMT
Her parents have completely dropped the ball. Part of the role of parents is to make decisions in order to protect our children. They've already seen the dark and seedy side of social media, and yet are making the decision to throw her back in there. Their job is to help keep her safe and to help her learn to make good decisions. Sounds like the money is overriding that. Agreed. 15 year old kids are generally not programmed to completely think things through or independently make great decisions. They act impulsively and do dumb things. I can’t believe that those parents wouldn’t pull the plug on their kid’s social media after one person was already literally KILLED coming after her. No amount of money would be worth losing my child over.
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Post by malibou on Apr 8, 2022 15:18:25 GMT
The article I read about this incident stated that the brother is pissed that his parents are putting them all in danger by not stopping this. And he should be.
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