Olan
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2022 11:53:34 GMT
This article by Michael Moore popped up on my Facebook feed this morning, replete with photos from The Handmaid's Tale: The Forced Birth RulingOne hundred seventy million American women and girls were suddenly informed on Monday that they have been removed from the ranks of full citizenship, and that their rights are now diminished so severely they will heretofore be commanded to give birth, whether they want to or not. Once pregnant, the government will now make all women prisoners of their wombs, automatically forced for the full nine months to carry the fetus inside them to term, whether they intended to be pregnant or not, a 21st century version of house arrest.
And when it’s time to give birth, the woman who didn’t want to be pregnant in the first place is either virtually or physically held down until that fetus is forcibly removed from the incarcerated vessel that was ordered to carry it.
This Order by the Supreme Rulers gleefully violates the very first pronouncement of our Constitution’s First Amendment which clearly states, without equivocation, that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” The Ruling this week forces all Americans to now follow the strict religious beliefs of the Catholic Church and much of Christianity which has concocted a fantasy that a fertilized egg is a human being — even though their own founder and God, Jesus Christ, never said any such thing. In fact, the word “abortion” appears absolutely nowhere in the New Testament. This Supreme Ruling, from a Court consisting of a majority of Catholic Justices, has ordered the citizens of the United States of America to now obey a major tenet of the Catholic Church — or be found guilty of a crime.
This Supreme Ruling removes the right of all women to be equal citizens to men — men who will retain full 100% control over their own reproductive organs. Both men and women have five main bodily systems. Women will now be allowed to maintain control of only four of their top five bodily systems: their circulatory system, respiratory system, digestive system and their muscular/skeletal system. But not their reproductive system. That power now belongs to the government. Which makes women 4/5 of a citizen. The State of course exercises no legal control over whatever it is men want to do with their bodies, and no man is forced to reproduce or deal with any of its consequences as women are.
Our Supreme Robed Rulers have relegated women and girls to permanent second-class citizenship. The pretending that women are legally “equal” can now thankfully stop. The truth is they were always 2nd class citizens, thanks to unequal pay, no paid maternity leave, domestic abuse, etc. The fake mask of our American system of “equality” has been ripped off, no more pretending now, because the real slippery slope has begun. This Forced Birth decision is only the beginning. If these fascists are not removed from office, as President Biden has warned us this week, they will be emboldened and they will be on a rampage to undo other freedoms that are an affront to the State Religion they have now shoved down our throats in the Dobbs Case. Next up: ending same sex marriage. After that: the removal of the Plan B pill, aka “the morning after pill.” They have already eliminated the Violence Against Women Act and they will make that permanent. They have invaded school board meetings with threats of violence if the schools continue to teach that white Americans kidnapped, raped, lynched and enslaved Black Africans to build this country. They will continue to gerrymander, suppress the vote, and keep Black Americans on the lowest rung of the economic ladder. Your child will be forced to start the school day, every day, by standing and praying aloud to this Christian God Jesus Christ who never once condemned homosexuality, never once forced anyone to pray. They have made up this fake god to suit their totalitarian political agenda, to force women into the maternity ward, to send Black Americans to the back of the new bus where they are imprisoned by the millions along with other people of color.
Welcome to the New America. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, only the new boss no longer has to fake-sing his praises for “Democracy!” and “Freedom!” and “Equality!”
The New America is about to become a much scarier place. The Supreme Wealthy are going to take everything from you and they believe they’re going to get away with it. Only November stands in their way. Only November has a chance of stopping them. And that’s on you and me. MASSIVE ORGANIZING! EXPLOSIVE NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE! EVERYONE BRINGS FIVE VOTERS WITH THEM TO THE POLLS! EACH OF US PUTS A SIGN IN THE WINDOW OR THE YARD THAT SAYS “VOTE THE FASCISTS OUT!”
Then we might have a chance.
And I believe we do. Because there’s more of us than there are of them.
(Note: The ABC News poll this week showed 70% of Americans believe “abortion is a private decision between a woman and her doctor.” Only 27% of the country supports what the Trump Court is about to rule! C’mon people — let’s beat these traitorous bastards once and for all.)Why are white women trying to escape their culpability in all of this? I see so many of you talking about old white men as if all of you are married and caregiving for spry Black men. Are you? Who did you raise? Who raised you? The same can be said about the CRT threads. Like white guilt/shame and a Black person talking pointedly about Black suffering hasn’t already played out here. 👀 Domestic supply of infants? I’ve talked a lot of adoption, how that sibling group found themselves at the bottom of the ocean, transracial adoptions, social workers etc. In fact that was the last thread I actively posted on. Very easy to go back and see what the response was each time. Just a couple weeks ago you all were discussing Will Smith and the toxic masculinity of Black men. May I ask that you treat it like you do Black maternal health and let me worry it. It kills me not you. Meanwhile the toxic masculinity of the white male variety has and continues to fuck EVERYBODY over. Even you. How about you tackle that for once?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 9, 2022 12:38:13 GMT
casii I know the protesters are peaceful... Cruz knows that too. He is just driving up his baseless base..
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on May 9, 2022 13:36:22 GMT
If the justices see fit to take away my right to privacy, they sure a fuck don’t get theirs. This goes for their spouses and kids as well.
I hope the protesters make their lives miserable for the rest of their lives.
I’m done looking out for others who don’t/won’t do it for me and you all should be too!
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on May 9, 2022 13:47:43 GMT
The FDNY, “your body is mine”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 9, 2022 13:52:52 GMT
UPDATE!!! farther down there is a FDNY statement posted @dottyscrapper It's red, you can't miss it!! Gets better... Threats of possible rape.. *** ETA:. NOT confirmed who these men are.. *** Captions on the video attribute those remarks to “FDNY,” the New York City Fire Dept., but that has not been confirmed. The leader of the group is wearing what appears to be an FDNY patch on his pullover, and an “America First” cap. America First is the name of the group headed by Nick Fuentes, who has been called a white nationalist and a white supremacist."Not the church, not the state, the people must decide their fate,” the pro-choice protestors chant in the video, which has gone viral over the weekend. "I am the people,” the anti-choice activist, pounding his chest, declares. “The people have decided, the court has decided, you lose.” “You have no choice,” he responds to their chants, gesticulating as if he were a ruler. “Not your choice, not your body, your body is mine – and you’re having my baby."www.rawstory.com/abortion-protest-video/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 9, 2022 13:57:57 GMT
John Oliver takes on the Alito draft decision.. In an unprecedented special, John Oliver did two main stories in his Sunday episode of "Last Week Tonight" for a 45-minute show addressing the recent release of Justice Samuel Alito's decision about abortion. fast forward to 41 minute mark.. youtu.be/MtKsHslivT0
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Post by maryannscraps on May 9, 2022 13:59:25 GMT
So now Mitch McConnell is saying that if the Republicans win back control, they will likely try to pass national legislation to ban abortions. (per a NYT article)
What happened to the argument of leaving it up to the states? Lies, lies, and more lies.
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Olan
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2022 14:03:45 GMT
Also a connection you may be having trouble making....when you saw Black people “re-Fighting” for Civil Rights they had already secured that should have been your cue to begin actively rallying. A strong emphasis on the active part. Instead you post thread after thread of some judge giving a white man an attaboy for rape 😑 did you think only Black people were going to have to fight tooth and nail for rights so basic? I’m fighting for the right to birth and not die and you thought your daughter’s uterus was safe? Why?
I’ve been screaming about these connections for what seems like forever 🤷🏾♀️
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Post by aj2hall on May 9, 2022 14:53:50 GMT
So now Mitch McConnell is saying that if the Republicans win back control, they will likely try to pass national legislation to ban abortions. (per a NYT article) What happened to the argument of leaving it up to the states? Lies, lies, and more lies. Exactly. And they wont stop with abortion. The Mississippi governor is already talking about restrictions on contraception, even for married couples. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/08/us/politics/senate-democrats-abortion.html Democrats rang alarm bells on Sunday about the likelihood that Republicans would try to restrict abortion nationwide, two days after an interview was published in which Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader, said a ban was “possible” if his party gained control in Washington.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 15:43:14 GMT
The FDNY, “your body is mine” “A video circulating from a protest in Manhattan over the weekend shows an individual wearing a FDNY sweatshirt. The individual in the video is not a member of the FDNY. The comments made do not represent the views of the FDNY. The matter is under investigation," Deputy Commissioner of Public Information Frank Dwyer said in a statement. LINK
They've also posted a statement on their twitter.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 9, 2022 15:43:19 GMT
Another bit added to the tweet above about anti-abortion threats...
There is a whole thread..
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on May 9, 2022 18:07:23 GMT
“A video circulating from a protest in Manhattan over the weekend shows an individual wearing a FDNY sweatshirt. The individual in the video is not a member of the FDNY. The comments made do not represent the views of the FDNY. The matter is under investigation," Deputy Commissioner of Public Information Frank Dwyer said in a statement. I call bullshit. The individual is not a member of the FDNY as of when? Unless someone can provide real proof, Mr Power/Bower WAS at some point a member of the FDNY L-58. Otherwise "the real" Mr Power/Bower needs to come forward and says his jacket was stolen/donated/etc.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 9, 2022 18:36:58 GMT
Truth 😖🥴
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Post by Gem Girl on May 9, 2022 18:51:56 GMT
“A video circulating from a protest in Manhattan over the weekend shows an individual wearing a FDNY sweatshirt. The individual in the video is not a member of the FDNY. The comments made do not represent the views of the FDNY. The matter is under investigation," Deputy Commissioner of Public Information Frank Dwyer said in a statement. I call bullshit. The individual is not a member of the FDNY as of when? Unless someone can provide real proof, Mr Power/Bower WAS at some point a member of the FDNY L-58. Otherwise "the real" Mr Power/Bower needs to come forward and says his jacket was stolen/donated/etc. FDNY apparel is available for sale to the public. You can find it via Google. I have no way of knowing if that goon is/was a member of FDNY, but it's possible that the answer is no.
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Post by epeanymous on May 9, 2022 18:59:30 GMT
So now Mitch McConnell is saying that if the Republicans win back control, they will likely try to pass national legislation to ban abortions. (per a NYT article) What happened to the argument of leaving it up to the states? Lies, lies, and more lies. Exactly. And they wont stop with abortion. The Mississippi governor is already talking about restrictions on contraception, even for married couples. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/08/us/politics/senate-democrats-abortion.html Democrats rang alarm bells on Sunday about the likelihood that Republicans would try to restrict abortion nationwide, two days after an interview was published in which Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader, said a ban was “possible” if his party gained control in Washington. "States rights" has always been a tactical, not a substantive, argument (see: the civil rights era). I hope my fellow blue state folks understand.
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Post by hop2 on May 9, 2022 19:05:05 GMT
The liars are loose on FOX. Tammy Bruce used to be pro-choice with a scary tale..not all truthful. In the 80s there was birth control AND abortions were already legal!!! Conservative tries to paint protesters as 'bullies and thugs' as video shows them peacefully standingSarah K. Burris May 08, 2022 Conservative commentator Tammy Bruce struggled to justify her anti-choice beliefs and attacks on protesters. *** Speaking to the Fox network on Sunday, Bruce first claimed that Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) was trying to scare people just as she (Bruce) did as a pro-choice activist in the 80s. According to Bruch, women's health was scary back then because abortion was illegal and there was no birth control.*** Bruce went on to say that those standing outside the Supreme Court and elsewhere protesting, "those aren't protesters, those are bullies and thugs. I love protests. I'm a community organizer," the radio host continued. "What's going on with a group like what we're seeing outside the churches and the homes of the justices, is like Antifa."The video beside her, while she was talking, showed peaceful people standing around holding signs. Other footage showed people walking calmly with signs. The peaceful protests have been a stark contrast to the violent attacks on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. See Bruce in the video below: youtu.be/AJpCOpB_hmAwww.rawstory.com/protest/Of course fox is lying. It’s to fear monger thier base so they can take away more of our rights. And yeah, if the government can tell you you cant have an abortion then the government can tell you you have to have one. They can limit family sizes, they can limit the birth of children with disabilities, once control is lost it’s lost. If the government controls your uterus then the government can decide if they want to allow you to carry a downs child to term, or if you can make your quiver full of offspring. Perhaps if you don’t make enough money they can limit your choices for having children These people don’t understand it’s not a PRO abortion movement it PRO CHOICE because the choice should be yours not the governments choice. I mean look at all the years births were limited in China. Once you don’t have control of your own uterus then you don’t have control.
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Post by msladibug on May 9, 2022 20:54:01 GMT
I always remember this when rights are challenged….
First They Came by Pastor Martin Niemoller
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
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Post by maryannscraps on May 9, 2022 21:15:19 GMT
Exactly. And they wont stop with abortion. The Mississippi governor is already talking about restrictions on contraception, even for married couples. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/08/us/politics/senate-democrats-abortion.html Democrats rang alarm bells on Sunday about the likelihood that Republicans would try to restrict abortion nationwide, two days after an interview was published in which Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader, said a ban was “possible” if his party gained control in Washington. "States rights" has always been a tactical, not a substantive, argument (see: the civil rights era). I hope my fellow blue state folks understand. Of course. So long as it supports what they're saying today.
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Post by aj2hall on May 10, 2022 0:46:23 GMT
I hate this guy and sincerely hope the Republicans don't get control of the Senate. He's already openly admitted, he wouldn't hold hearings for the nomination of a Supreme Court Justice. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/09/gop-beyond-roe-restrictions/In recent days, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) made clear that a nationwide ban could be on the agenda in a Republican-controlled Senate.
“If the leaked opinion became the final opinion, legislative bodies — not only at the state level but at the federal level — certainly could legislate in that area,” he said, adding, “So yeah, it’s possible.”
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 10, 2022 0:51:39 GMT
I hate this guy and sincerely hope the Republicans don't get control of the Senate. He's already openly admitted, he wouldn't hold hearings for the nomination of a Supreme Court Justice. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/09/gop-beyond-roe-restrictions/In recent days, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) made clear that a nationwide ban could be on the agenda in a Republican-controlled Senate.
“If the leaked opinion became the final opinion, legislative bodies — not only at the state level but at the federal level — certainly could legislate in that area,” he said, adding, “So yeah, it’s possible.”The fieriest pit in hell would be too good for that asshole. I hate him so much.
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Post by aj2hall on May 10, 2022 0:52:25 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/09/mitch-mcconnell-biggest-threat-abortion-rights/The individual most responsible for threatening women’s reproductive rights in this country is not Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. — or, for that matter, any of his reactionary colleagues on the Supreme Court. It’s Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
If Alito’s mean-spirited and incoherent draft opinion striking down Roe v. Wade becomes the court’s final ruling, McConnell (R-Ky.) told USA Today last week, it is “possible” that Republicans in Congress will seek to legislate a nationwide ban on abortion.
So much for the GOP lie about sending the issue back to the states.
But no one should be surprised. This is the culmination of decades of rank dishonesty by a Republican Party determined, despite overwhelming public opposition, to take away women’s right to terminate unwanted or unsafe pregnancies. That was the goal from the beginning. That remains the goal today.
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The history of the United States has been a saga of difficult, halting progress in expanding the rights protected by the Constitution to citizens other than White men who own property, those to whom “We the people” originally applied. Roe is so important because it protects women’s rights over their own bodies.
If Republicans were to take control of Congress and the White House, there would indeed be a push to ban abortion coast to coast. Remember what McConnell did when he had power. Don’t give it to him again. And don’t believe McConnell and the justices when they ask you to trust them, and not your lying eyes.
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Post by casii on May 10, 2022 2:38:37 GMT
Hate is too mild a word to describe my feelings for McConnell. Surely he is due to choke on his own wattle sooner than later.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2022 9:32:13 GMT
Republicans are betting that voters care more about inflation than abortion. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/09/abortion-campaign-republicans/Several points: I have lived through periods of inflation. It is temporary. This ban on abortion is not. The other point is that there is no magic bullet to fix inflation. It is worldwide. Republicans cannot just magically fix it. How stupid do they think we are?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 10, 2022 9:50:35 GMT
Republicans are betting that voters care more about inflation than abortion. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/09/abortion-campaign-republicans/Several points: I have lived through periods of inflation. It is temporary. This ban on abortion is not. The other point is that there is no magic bullet to fix inflation. It is worldwide. Republicans cannot just magically fix it. How stupid do they think we are? True, but the Democrats must speak loud and clear! They should be no trust that the voters are sensible... They must be reminded!!!
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Post by elaine on May 10, 2022 10:02:08 GMT
It’s not mob violence, it’s free speech. People are protesting because they’re angry with the leaked draft and the upcoming decision. If the Republicans don’t want the Supreme Court and the individual justices to be treated as political, the Republicans and the justices themselves shouldn’t have made it partisan. Furthermore, the justices shouldn’t have lied in their hearings.This part continues to enrage me. These justices blatantly lied when asked about it in confirmation hearings. And for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett, those lies were spewed in the past 5 years, so it really isn’t a stance on which they changed their minds over time. This was always their intent. The democrats and media should highlight this. And Thomas bemoans the fact that people don’t believe in and support the Supreme Court anymore. That three have proved that they were willing to lie under oath in order to gain their seats and rob women of control over the bodies plays a large part in that distrust and disillusionment regarding the impartiality of the Court.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2022 11:14:43 GMT
If Republicans DO run on the economy, and they will, we have to ask: what are their ideas?
Drill for more oil? Companies have 9000 permits to drill right now, and they aren’t doing it.
Why not? Because they are betting that in the end, it will not be profitable and might cost investors money. They have lost $$ before and are not anxious to do it again.
What other ideas do they have?
Here is my prediction. Republicans will rail against Biden on inflation, but if questioned, will have little in the way of policies to combat it. Maybe they will be able to convince big oil to drill. I doubt it. Those companies answer to shareholders. Rs will offer very little in terms of solutions.
Because, honestly, aside from SC Justices, what policies have Republicans offered up?
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Post by aj2hall on May 10, 2022 11:26:55 GMT
Nothing. The Republicans don’t have any policies, except to obstruct and blame Democrats and verbally attack them.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 10, 2022 12:24:06 GMT
Nothing. The Republicans don’t have any policies, except to obstruct and blame Democrats and verbally attack them. I just heard on the today show that Rick Scott proposed a bill that would raise taxes on 50% of Americans and let Medicare and social security expire. Doesn’t sound like a great plan to me.
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Post by mollycoddle on May 10, 2022 12:56:25 GMT
Nothing. The Republicans don’t have any policies, except to obstruct and blame Democrats and verbally attack them. I just heard on the today show that Rick Scott proposed a bill that would raise taxes on 50% of Americans and let Medicare and social security expire. Doesn’t sound like a great plan to me. Oh, he did. And it’s something. 👀 rescueamerica.com/11-point-plan/
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Post by aj2hall on May 10, 2022 13:25:57 GMT
Nothing. The Republicans don’t have any policies, except to obstruct and blame Democrats and verbally attack them. I just heard on the today show that Rick Scott proposed a bill that would raise taxes on 50% of Americans and let Medicare and social security expire. Doesn’t sound like a great plan to me. Not just 50% of Americans, the poorest 50% of Americans because he falsely thinks they don't have any skin in the game. Despite the fact that they pay sales taxes, Social Security and Medicare taxes on their wages, and property taxes indirectly or directly through rent. The entire plan is awful, it's designed to impose Christianity on everyone.
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