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Post by kmage on May 4, 2022 20:23:21 GMT
I've been mulling over something Chinagirl828 said in the frozen/chilly thread for a few days. She said, "I wish there wasn't such a buy now or miss out mentality in this hobby" and I could not agree more. How do people work with this/work around this feeling of "fomo" with scrapbooking releases? The fear is real. Unless you find someone destashing, or you bought "enough", Basic Grey is gone. You cannot go to the store and get more. On a much more recent note, Heidi Swapp Wolf Pack is gone. The stamps are unable to be found. I scrapped with a friend last weekend who saw mine and immediately wanted to get the whole collection and it is just not there. Do folks that don't struggle with this have more of the mentality of "oh well...something new is always coming down the pike, so it doesn't really matter?" Or perhaps, "I'll just make do." Do you stock up on certain things you just love and hope to have for years to come? I'll admit it, I have multiples of VB Color Study, that is how much I loved that paper, and I bought 2 of the 6x6 of the Wolf Pack line, because I liked it that much. Now I wish I'd bought more. I'm not hoarding it, I am using it, but I'll be bummed when it is used up. I was just trying to think of other products and things in our lives that do this and other than clothes that change from season to season I cannot think of much that is just here and gone. I know electronics and tech changes, but not quite so flash-in-the-pan. Anyway, Wednesday musings...
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 20:38:49 GMT
I stock up on products I really love and want to use multiple times. Perfect example is Cocoa Vanilla, HS, and CP lines. I know those will be used a lot AND bonus is they carry over between lines.
I am able to use last year's Cocoa Vanilla line with this year's No Limits. I can use the HS line from 2020 and combine it with her most recent release. CP Halloween and Christmas lines go well with each other.
I remember when I first started scrapbooking...I could go to my LSS and get paper that was like 2 years old. Sure there was a rush to get stuff but older stuff was manufactured more often and in a higher quantity.
Now? If you don't pre order and get it on release day, good luck!
With LSS no longer really around, that has caused companies to adjust. On line stores only have so much storage. And it costs money to have product sit and not get bought. So they limit what they get which limits what we have access to.
I am super picky on what I like. So when there is a line that wins me over, I buy multiples so it lasts me awhile while I wait for a new release I like. I wish I didn't have to but it's the way it is now.
Very much like get your Christmas decor in Sept/Oct or not have it for December.
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Post by breetheflea on May 4, 2022 21:24:54 GMT
I guess one way to get out of FOMO is to only buy brands that just repeat the same thing over and over again. If I see one more Echo Park little red school house...
On a less sarcastic note, it is weird when you think about it... There isn't school themed yarn, or Fourth of July cross stitch thread... I mean there are projects for those, but you can still get the supplies year round. They don't take away all the red paint and only put it out at certain times of the year, why can't I go to the store and buy Valentines paper in July?
The 'if you want Christmas paper, you have to buy it waaaaay before Christmas, when you don't even know what photos you are going to take yet'-ness of scrapbooking is definitely annoying and can contribute to hoarding issues. I know I've done a little FOMO shopping...
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Post by kmage on May 4, 2022 21:37:34 GMT
Now? If you don't pre order and get it on release day, good luck! With LSS no longer really around, that has caused companies to adjust. On line stores only have so much storage. And it costs money to have product sit and not get bought. So they limit what they get which limits what we have access to. This is very true. I didn't think about online companies and storage and having to make adjustments for the loss of brick and mortar stores.
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Post by Linda on May 4, 2022 21:42:46 GMT
I've never really been in a position to buy new releases as they come out or buy multiples of stuff I love. So making do or doing without is how I learnt to scrapbook (and applies to much in my life really). We're in a better place financially now but 20 years of scrapbook habits is hard to overcome and I'm still more likely to buy stuff once it goes on clearance or from someone destashing than I am to get it at/near release day.
Doesn't stop me from looking at all the new releases and thinking about which ones I would like but if I place ONE online crafty order in a year, that's a lot for me and with no LSS nearby - we have HL and in the nearest city there's M, J, and TM (not that they have much anymore) but that's an hour away and we're not there often.
But I also don't USE a lot of product.I mean I go a decent amount of cardstock and I buy black and white in bulk from office supplies -but my pages aren't product heavy and even with as many cards and layouts as I make - I don't use up kits or paper pads or embellishments very quickly if at all and too much stash stifles my creativity by overwhelming me with choices. So knowing that - even now when I could buy more, I don't really want to buy more.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 4, 2022 21:51:12 GMT
I'm ok with "losing out" on a collection. My mindset is that it's fine, other people enjoyed it and created with it, I happened not to despite really liking it and that is it. I get to see the pretties they made on social media and that's it. There are several scrap releases a year and the industry moves so quickly, nearly at the same rhythm fast fashion does. I keep that in mind and let the negative feels go. I do allow myself to buy stuff from a release I have a love at first sneak peek situation with. I also know this kind of hyper enthusiasm only happens a couple of times a year at most. If it happens more (and especially regularly), I'm likely overevaluating my desire and not drawing a clear line between ooh-pretty! and absolute must-have. It's time to sit down and have an honest conversation with myself then. I rarely stock up. Most I will get is two sheets of a same pattern paper and even that is on the rare occasion. Love it, use it once, enjoy it, let the idea of it go. I see this craft as an enjoyment, a fun parenthesis to embellish everyday (and special occasion) memories, but not an obligation to "do good" by my photos. If I'm just using cardstock or a pattern paper that isn't as perfect as that paper I bought X years ago and already used for a different story, it's totally fine. There's nothing wrong with using something up without having an identical backup just in case I have "better" photos for it. The only things I'm buying backups of are perfect jeans and favourite discontinued perfumes. I'm at peace with paper and embellishments being used up and forever out of my scrap game. Sure, I may think to myself that it would've been better suited to another memory but I don't dwell on it. Documenting is meant to be enjoyable, light and fun for me, not a full-on enterprise with planning out, stocking up, investing. Of course, other scrapbookers feel differently about this hobby and that is totally ok. Personality-wise, I'm not particularly anxious, I'm not a collector (helps a lot with keeping a very manageable stash in this craft, I swear) and I'm really not into the whole sunk-cost fallacy mindset (not buying more embellishments to fit paper that I bought but find I can't really use with the other stuff I have for ex, especially if I'm not crazy about that paper, just getting rid of said paper and no longer thinking about it). I shrug it all off. Oh, and I've learned I love myself some themed scrapbooking. I know that I will likely fall for 1 Halloween collection and 1 Christmas collection per year. I've just accepted this as my scrappy fate. Looking forward to finally making a new scrapbook line purchase this year when these releases hit the shops!
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Post by ecvnj58 on May 4, 2022 21:55:22 GMT
I think that this hobby thrives on this mentality but for me I really don’t think of it in terms of that. I have gotten rid of so much stuff. Like tons and tons of stuff that I had to have. In my house and in my scrapbooks. It’s almost to the point where things really don’t have the same value to me. They are really just things.
I looked at the things I bought a year ago and realized I never used them because I was accumulating too much. I realized that the scrapbook companies have the same themes year after year. I realized that there was something each month I really liked. So the consumption could just go on and on.
Now that is preachy and I am not going to pretend to be prefect. I fall for buying stuff all the time. (I’m looking at you studio calico sale). I just buy a lot less because I realize my own habits and truthfully feel incredibly guilty about the waste. I don’t want to feel bad about wasting my money, my time, my space, the environments resources because that’s what I was doing.
Also it goes the other way. I literally cannot find work pants. I can’t figure out what’s worth spending money on and what I love enough. What is with pants these days but they are all horrible. I wish I had FOMO in this area so I would have some work clothes to wear.
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Post by cannmom on May 4, 2022 21:55:23 GMT
I don’t buy multiples of things. It’s very rare for me to buy 2 sheets of the same paper. I haven’t bought anything from Cocoa Vanilla’s new line even though I do like it. I am purposely buying less lately. Instead of buying an entire collection , I’m picking and choosing the things I’m most likely to use instead of everything I think is pretty. I have a decent stash and I’m enjoying using what I have instead of chasing the newest releases. I’m not worried about not having new pretty things to buy. Don’t get me wrong, I like to shop, but right now I just want to use what I have. I’m supplementing what I have with some new stuff, just not all the new stuff. Lol!
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Post by caangel on May 4, 2022 21:58:35 GMT
I know we hate the word but I try to be really intentional about what I purchase, especially if it is full price. I think being honest with yourself about how quickly you go through product is important. I still allow myself to splurge a few times a year but I have usually over thought the decision and know that either I will really use it or I will really enjoy having it even if it is not as useful. For consumable products I consider what makes it unique, how likely is something similar going to come out again, does it fill a "hole" in my stash, do I have things that are similar that I haven't used yet. Is it useful for the way I scrap and my style. Then I let it sit and come back a few days/week later and see if my answers have changed.
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Post by grammadee on May 4, 2022 22:27:12 GMT
I {try} to think of this as a WIN-WIN situation. If I spend money on a product I love, then Yay ME! I have fun things to play with. If I "lose out" to those quicker off the starting block, then Yay ME! I saved some money. Some things I feel like I MUST have when they come out: they are in themes I want to scrap, colours or patterns I love, or they go with collections that are almost depleted. Maybe I see some card designs I really want to try (like the SU! penguins last year) . Or something sparks my imagination (like the SSS gnomes). If I score them, I feel like a winner. If I lose out it is not exactly the end of the world, but I reserve the right to whine... Especially when I keep seeing other people's projects with them on YouTube and Pinterest. We DO have LSS's here, but I feel sorry for the people who run them. They need to predict way ahead of time what we will want to lay money down for. And if they run out of a particular line, the manufacturers have already moved on to the NBT. If they order lots of a particular line and don't sell it, the stuff is stuck in their inventory and dragging down their cash flow. It is not just in scrapbooking, but everywhere in merchandising in general now. I think it started as a kind of a war between the on line suppliers and the brick & mortar ones, although most merchants offer both options these days. If I see something I might like in Costco on Monday when I am there, I better grab it, b/c by early June when I am back again, it will be like I am in a brand new store... I will need to get any lawn games, water balloons, Slip n Slides now if I want them for when the kids are here in July. Cuz by July WM will be wall to wall back to school, even though classes don't start here until around September 1st. By the time school starts I will need to stock up on Halloween supplies, and on we go through the year.
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Post by ecvnj58 on May 4, 2022 23:08:52 GMT
Also another thing I do is I often wait and contemplate stuff. If it sells out right away I think it wasn’t meant to be. If it comes back in stock weeks later and I still want it I will buy it. I do this a lot with Kelly purkey stamps. If they sell out that first day it truly wasn’t meant to be mine. I have a couple areas in my life where I think this. I love beer and collecting the newest releases but I’m not standing online at 6am for hours waiting. If I show up for lunch and they still have the beer it was meant to be.
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Post by riversong1963 on May 4, 2022 23:13:57 GMT
I think the companies have, for the most part, created the FOMO that exists in the scrapbooking and stamping industries. As @sunnycamom said, "Now? If you don't pre order and get it on release day, good luck!" Once it's gone, it's gone. If you miss out now, you probably won't find it again; and if you do find it somewhere, it will be a lot more money. I have to admit that I have succumbed to FOMO on occasion - more than I'd like to admit. But it isn't very often. I am of the mind that, as kmage said, "Something new is always coming down the pike, so it doesn't really matter."
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2022 23:30:25 GMT
I don't have FOMO. I always think that there will always be something out there for me to buy that I will like. And it hurts my heart far more to see things sitting unused. That is enough to make me nuts.
However I'm not without my own spending issues. I'm bipolar. I'm impulsive. I see things, it strikes my fancy and boom....I've ordered it. Often without thinking it through. It's not FOMO, but it's annoying all the same. Today I ordered a stitch fix box, why? I put on a jacket and it didn't fit right. And we'll now I've got a week to basically talk myself into sending it all back. Lol!
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 4, 2022 23:51:36 GMT
I think most us fall for FOMO at some point. I’ve bought things I just had to have and a year (or two or three, etc) later I never used it and I’m ambivalent about the product. It’s humbling to realize I wasted money on something I really don’t love as much as I thought and will likely purge it unused. I try not to get caught up in buying (and frequently fail) and if it sells out before I get a shot at it I figure the Gods are telling me it wasn’t meant for me.
Tuesday Morning used to be so bad for me. Seeing those things I passed on at full price, now at a discount? Bad, bad, bad for my wallet.
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Post by marg on May 5, 2022 0:40:02 GMT
I think the buy it now or lose it forever mentality is pretty common in many hobbies. If I think about hobbies my friends and relatives have - they're buying hard-to-find Funkopops, Lego, limited edition figures for whatever games/series they like, etc. My brother restores cars and has driven from Ontario to Alabama just to visit a junkyard and find a certain car part. My husband is really into music and buys limited edition vinyl records and EPs and T-shirts from bands and artists that he likes. My SIL does embroidery and had to have a limited-run William Morris (I think) tapestry kit that was probably $300.
My nieces are really into makeup and buy exclusive and limited edition makeup palettes, too.
So it exists elsewhere. It's just the nature of hobbies, I think. This isn't a problem for basic supplies like acrylic paints or embroidery floss or aida cloth, but neither is it a problem for card stock and ink pads and basics in our industry, too. Those go out of stock but if you wait they will be restocked, and ink colours etc are usually around for many years if they even ever retire.
Maybe I'm way off base here, just thinking it through. Paper crafting does have a certain collecting mentality, at least in terms of limited runs for certain products like 12x12 patterned paper, but if they didn't come out with new stuff all the time a lot of the biggest hobbyists would probably get bored and go find another hobby. And again, not all of our supplies cause FOMO, just the items that need to keep up with trends, like in fashion.
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Post by 950nancy on May 5, 2022 1:30:36 GMT
Since a majority of lines are pink and flowery, I find I don't have a lot of FOMO. Most of the lines I really love aren't the super popular lines and are easier to find, I think.
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Post by kmage on May 5, 2022 1:32:49 GMT
My nieces are really into makeup and buy exclusive and limited edition makeup palettes, too. I forgot about makeup!! My DD loves saving her gift money for limited edition makeup. I'm like, really? Another eyeshadow? lol...but I don't say anything. I'm the last one to talk, because really? Another beach paper?
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Post by mom on May 5, 2022 1:37:24 GMT
In the past I would buy into the 'fomo' mentality but now I have been scrapping long enough to know that there will always be something coming out that I will love. Sure, I miss BG but the reality is after having it in my stash for 5+ years, I probably never would ever get around to using it. What I have in my stash now is things I can sit down right now and use.
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Post by infochick on May 5, 2022 3:28:11 GMT
I have definitely felt the FOMO, and still do from time to time. As I try to focus more on using my stash, I am really thinking about what lines of paper I might want in the future so that I can plan my purchases better. For example, I love Vicki Boutin, so I will probably try to “be good” and not buy much until I know whether I want her fall line or not. I know which Simple Stories Christmas paper I want, so if anything else comes out I will evaluate if I want the other thing more. I am trying not to buy it all anymore. I have to keep reminding myself that they will make more paper that I like. There will always be more cute paper, and if there isn’t there is plenty in my stash from years gone by.
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Post by marg on May 5, 2022 11:38:49 GMT
My nieces are really into makeup and buy exclusive and limited edition makeup palettes, too. I forgot about makeup!! My DD loves saving her gift money for limited edition makeup. I'm like, really? Another eyeshadow? lol...but I don't say anything. I'm the last one to talk, because really? Another beach paper? I know how you feel. My husband collects records (or vinyl as the cool kids say) & CDs and every time I see another one come through the door I have to think "who am I to judge?", I just don't want him to ever count my patterned paper or stamp sets lol.
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Post by mikklynn on May 5, 2022 13:22:16 GMT
I have gotten over my FOMO by reminding myself there is always another line coming along. Once in a great while there is a collection I have used up that I'd love to have again, but not so often I'd buy multiples of everything.
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Post by christinec68 on May 5, 2022 14:25:23 GMT
I have gotten over my FOMO by reminding myself there is always another line coming along. Once in a great while there is a collection I have used up that I'd love to have again, but not so often I'd buy multiples of everything. This is pretty much how I feel about all the new releases. For designers & companies I like, I find there's a sameness from one collection to another that I feel confident I'll love something else down the line if I am not in the market to add to my stash in the moment.
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Post by scrappyrabbit on May 5, 2022 16:23:47 GMT
I don't feel fomo over scrapbooking products usually. It helps that I simply can't afford to buy new releases, or entire collections. I usually pick and choose pieces from the clearance section LOL. Nothing beats the thrill of finding the perfect paper or embellishment for your story, but more often than not, it's already in my small stash and I can make do. It also helps that I am not really picky. I have no problem using a generic sheet of paper from Michaels, yes even the thin ones, instead of a "designer" paper. Usually those big box stores have everything I need and I indulge in online shopping to add to my stash.
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Post by jenna on May 5, 2022 16:41:13 GMT
I definitely suffer from FOMO.
I think a lot of it stems from starting to scrap as a poor college kid who WANTED things but couldn't afford them in any regularity. As birthdays and Christmas gifts, sure.. but that $25 monthly subscription? After already buying an album + page protectors? No way.
So now I see something I like.. woops it went into my cart.. extra woops I clicked buy. I've had moments of guilt afterwards in the "You don't actually need this" kind of way. I'm trying to work on the overbuying of things I don't really need/will use just because and the guilty feeling over using money I've earned on wants instead of only needs. Shit's a process though.
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Post by kmage on May 5, 2022 16:46:21 GMT
This is pretty much how I feel about all the new releases. For designers & companies I like, I find there's a sameness from one collection to another that I feel confident I'll love something else down the line if I am not in the market to add to my stash in the moment. I wholeheartedly agree with this, but I do wish slightly that I had been more in the loop (thanks grad school) when some of the companies like Sasafrass were fading away...but you are right, that is the flip side of so many new releases, it is likely that there will be something else to love sooner rather than later, lol.
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Post by papersilly on May 5, 2022 17:09:46 GMT
i think a large part of that feeling is strong and effective marketing on the part of the companies. it's that QVC type of hype that they put out there. i was just telling DH that there is a particular designer that is so convincing that they can pretty much sell water to a drowning man. companies just know the trigger words and catch phrases to get people to buy. the marketing gives you that "in crowd" feeling if you buy their products. "be part of us", "don't miss out on this amazing new item", blah blah blah.
i don't really get swept up in that FOMO mentality but when i like something, i do tend to go back and buy a lot of it. i will hunt high and low and when i find it, i will stock up. i'm not afraid i will miss out as much i'm afraid i will run out. LOL
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Post by kmage on May 5, 2022 17:18:46 GMT
i'm not afraid i will miss out as much i'm afraid i will run out. LOL AMEN!
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Post by joblackford on May 5, 2022 17:37:58 GMT
I have gotten over my FOMO by reminding myself there is always another line coming along. Once in a great while there is a collection I have used up that I'd love to have again, but not so often I'd buy multiples of everything. There are some companies that are consistent with their offerings so I don't feel like I need to jump on everything right away. It may be that some people find Doodlebug boring but for me I know I can mix and match and if I miss out on some pieces I like I can find something just as fun down the line. It also helps that they don't retire collections or under-produce as much as some companies. And while I have bought and used up multiples of some collections (DBug So Much Pun, HS Wolf Pack) and wished I had more, for me I realize it's trying to recapture the fun feeling of using products that were beautiful and suited my style and that came together easily. I don't necessarily need more of the same thing. I just want that feeling again. I believe FOMO is much more about feelings - missing out on the fun or the feeling rather than the actual product. The things you miss out on/don't own also still have all their limitless potential, which is imaginary, whereas the stuff we actually own shows itself to be a bit of a nuisance (to organize, to match with other things, to actually use) which is reality. In the stamp/card world I feel like every company is cranking out fun stuff at an alarming rate and their DT/Influencers are very good at their jobs. But the companies also all constantly being inspired by/copying each other's ideas so I sometimes find I regret jumping on the first version of something when another company brings out a better/more "me" version a month later.
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Post by papersilly on May 5, 2022 18:22:36 GMT
i'm not afraid i will miss out as much i'm afraid i will run out. LOL AMEN! FORO. the struggle is real. lol
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Post by azcrafty on May 5, 2022 18:40:25 GMT
As a cardmaker I don't feel the pressure of buying stuff right now, but my cards don't have to coordinate for years coming. I don't do scrapbooking, but I think I would want the whole book to coordinate. It would drive me crazy if I couldn't buy the same products.
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