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Post by katlady on May 10, 2022 6:12:06 GMT
They also carry West Nile Virus. Any birds can carry WNV. That is why our local news will warn us once in awhile not to touch any birds that look sick or are dead. WNV is very deadly to crows (and jays). Crows often get it from eating infected dead birds.
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Post by manda on May 10, 2022 6:54:46 GMT
I’d suggest a slingshot and a few marbles. I’m not generally in favor of hurting animals but crows are a nuisance, Except if you miss the crow will come back with their friends and get you. True story. We have a lot of crows in our area and I hate them. But I ignore them so they memorize my face and terrorize me.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 10, 2022 9:32:58 GMT
They also carry West Nile Virus. So do other birds, and it has not been transmitted to people. CDC: “Can I get West Nile virus directly from birds? There is no evidence that a person can get infected from handling live or dead infected birds. However, you should avoid bare-handed contact when handling any dead animal. If you must pick up a dead bird, use gloves or an inverted plastic bag to place the bird in a garbage bag.”
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Post by oh yvonne on May 10, 2022 13:57:54 GMT
So I talked to DD yesterday and apparently she still had her UberEats app set for 'contactless delivery' from the COVID lockdown days. She has now changed that so they have to wait at the door to hand her the food. Hopefully that will help but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't piss off the crow and he starts attacking the delivery people, lol.
I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 10, 2022 14:04:06 GMT
Crows remind me more because of there numbers. Years ago, may 15?, We had so many crows on the roofs, power/telephone lines, when they took off it truly blocked to sun. At that time there was big news about West Nile Virus. They were talking numbers in humans all over the immediate area.
It has been years since reading about human illnesses her.
Crows have been returning but in far smaller numbers which is noticable.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 10, 2022 14:23:54 GMT
So I talked to DD yesterday and apparently she still had her UberEats app set for 'contactless delivery' from the COVID lockdown days. She has now changed that so they have to wait at the door to hand her the food. Hopefully that will help but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't piss off the crow and he starts attacking the delivery people, lol. I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming! Scarier than a crow: drunk drivers, covid, melanoma from the sun (DH), lack of tightly fitting screens on windows and doors (mosquitos), Lyme disease from ticks (five people I know or know of), falling (me with triple broken arm/shoulder and now AVN), cancer. All present far far greater risk than one smarty pants crow who recognizes an uber eats driver. If the crow had West Nile virus it would quickly die. And even then your daughter couldn’t get West Nile.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 10, 2022 15:38:07 GMT
ETA Yes to Lexica ’s post. I hadn’t read it before I posted. CardBoxer , you and I could be great friends! I also love birds. I had a wonderful cockatoo when I was first married. I loved that bird. Then after I divorced and was raising my son, I started finding baby birds in my yard. Starlings. I know most people consider them pests, but we loved them. We would feed them and when they were fully feathered, let them fly away. Then one day we found two babies that were not yet ready to fly in my front yard as we were on the way to take my son to school one morning. Of course, we had to bring them into the house and put them in front of the vent to keep them warm. We fed those babies until they were fully feathered and capable of flying, just like all the others. I kept them in a cage that I would put outside my upstairs window so that the mom bird knew they were alive and safe. When they were capable of flying (we tossed them between us to strengthen their wings) I wired the door of the cage open to let them go with the mom, who had remained around for the weeks that this process took. I put the cage out of my window again. One bird accompanied her to the tree in my front yard. The other bird hopped around on the roof a bit, then returned to the cage. I kept him for a few more weeks. I took him outside every day to let him hop around the tree and get used to being outside. His mom would fly to the tree and encourage him to follow her, but he wouldn't. I guess he bonded with me instead of her. We named him Fluffer because he was a ball of fluff when we found them. Fluffer lived with us for several more years. He would fly around the neighborhood and return to fly into my bedroom window when I whistled for him. That bird had so much personality. He learned to mimic my house sounds - the squeaking of my cabinets opening, the noise the refrigerator made, my dogs barking, me telling my dogs not to bark, and the most annoying sound - the telephone ringing. I can't tell you the number of times I was swimming laps in the pool and heard the phone ring. I quickly swam to the edge and scrambled out of the pool to answer the phone. No one was there. Then I would see Fluffer sitting on the back of a chair and he would "ring" again. I'm sure he had no idea that the noise would summon me from the water, but it sure felt like he was pranking me. We would put out a big bowl of water for him to bathe in. And he would steal things that appealed to him and stash them in one of his cages. I wore toe rings and he was so frustrated that he couldn't get them off of my toes. He would try, then get irritated and peck at my feet. It was so funny. When anything shiny was missing, we knew to go check both his flight cage and indoor cage. He was put out every day to fly around the neighborhood. I often told my son that he might meet a girl bird and not return and that we shouldn't be sad about that. Then one day he didn't come to my whistle. I got up several times that night to try to call him in. This went on for 4 days. I figured he wasn't coming back. As much as I mentally knew this might happen, I was so saddened. Then I was in the backyard to do some yard work and as I was kneeling down at one of the flowerbeds, I heard "hello" coming from next door. I recognized that voice immediately. Fluffer! He was in the neighbor's tree. I called him and he came flying over to land in front of me. I immediately fed him because I had been worried about whether or not he was finding adequate food, even though I had been leaving a bowl of seeds out for him at my bedroom window. He ate and I gave him his bowl of water for his daily bath. He drank and hopped into the bowl to splash water everywhere with an enthusiastic bath. My son was overjoyed when he came home from school to find Fluffer in his flight cage in the backyard. We got so much enjoyment out of that little guy. There was one incident where I was washing dishes in the kitchen and Fluffer was outside in his flight cage. Fortunately the cage door was closed. I heard him squawking and flapping around and went to the door to see a huge hawk hanging onto the side of the cage trying to get at Fluffer. I though just seeing me at the door would scare it off but it didn't budge. I went back into the kitchen and grabbed a large cutting board. I opened the door just enough to fit my hand out and used the cutting board to pry the hawk off of Fluffer's cage. It took several tries. I also tried hitting at the hawk with the dish towel from my shoulder. It didn't flinch. This entire time I was trying to get the hawk away from Fluffer's cage, Fluffer was pecking at the hawk's huge talons and squawking at it. I was so afraid he would get caught by those sharp talons and be killed before I could get the hawk off the cage. I stopped putting him in the flight cage unless I was home. I was just thankful that he wasn't flying loose at that moment. Fluffer remained with us for many years until he eventually passed away from old age. So yeah, I have a deep love and respect for birds. I would be befriending that crow, but I understand that having a child that young around a bird that big might be fearful. When I was about 10, we had a crow die in our backyard. It flew to the grass and just sat there. Suddenly dozens of other crows came and filled the trees and electric wires around the yard, calling out to the crow on the ground. That is what got my attention. There had to be 100 crows gathered around the backyard, cawing and cawing at the bird. Mom wouldn't let me go back there for fear of getting hurt and really, we had no idea how to help. The crows stayed for about a half hour while this crow on the ground became weaker and eventually died. As soon as it died, they all flew off. It was instant. They knew. Of course, I was standing at my mom's bedroom window watching and crying because I couldn't help. At dinner that night we decided the crow that died was the king and all the others were his subjects. Mom did allow me to bury the king of the crows in our planter as long as I put on a pair of plastic gloves. I made it a box and my sisters and I had a bird funeral for it. It really impressed me that the birds knew the instant the bird on the ground was dead. It had stopped moving many times, but was still alive. How they realized it was actually dead and not just stopping like before, I will never know. We can be BBFs (bird best friends). You’ve done so much to help them. We have bird baths (plugged in in the winter so water won’t freeze since birds die from lack of water and most don’t understand melted snow or drink from large bodies of water). And feeders (not with grocery store feed, which has so much junk seed—little round brown stuff—that birds don’t eat it) with mixed safflower/millet, sunflower chips (with hot stuff) for birds who can’t open seeds (robins, blue birds), cage feeders with dried meal worms), and peanuts. The squirrels eat the peanuts. Our cats are indoor only. We’ve taken birds who have hit windows to rehabbers, but haven’t done anything like the wonderfully caring actions you’ve taken. For quite a few years my husband was asked to check on Canada goose eggs laid every year in a planter on top of a parking garage. After hatching, a rehab group would get the babies in a carrier and with parents following, would take them to the nearest pond.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 10, 2022 16:22:23 GMT
So I talked to DD yesterday and apparently she still had her UberEats app set for 'contactless delivery' from the COVID lockdown days. She has now changed that so they have to wait at the door to hand her the food. Hopefully that will help but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't piss off the crow and he starts attacking the delivery people, lol. I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming! Scarier than a crow: drunk drivers, covid, melanoma from the sun (DH), lack of tightly fitting screens on windows and doors (mosquitos), Lyme disease from ticks (five people I know or know of), falling (me with triple broken arm/shoulder and now AVN), cancer. All present far far greater risk than one smarty pants crow who recognizes an uber eats driver. If the crow had West Nile virus it would quickly die. And even then your daughter couldn’t get West Nile. okay girl, seriously? LOL. thanks all for the lighthearted (mostly) thread!
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Post by CardBoxer on May 10, 2022 16:47:50 GMT
Scarier than a crow: drunk drivers, covid, melanoma from the sun (DH), lack of tightly fitting screens on windows and doors (mosquitos), Lyme disease from ticks (five people I know or know of), falling (me with triple broken arm/shoulder and now AVN), cancer. All present far far greater risk than one smarty pants crow who recognizes an uber eats driver. If the crow had West Nile virus it would quickly die. And even then your daughter couldn’t get West Nile. okay girl, seriously? LOL. thanks all for the lighthearted (mostly) thread! I meant it somewhat tongue in cheek to try to put it in perspective since you expressed such concern. (“I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming!”.) We take risks every day and that crow does not present one - except to your daughter’s hunger and budget. 😊 My apologies if it came across poorly. I’m out.
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Post by wallyagain on May 10, 2022 16:58:49 GMT
Can I be part of the birders club? I love birds, yes, I am that person with the binoculars and bird books. Crows fascinate me, they are so smart.
As humans, we think we are so superior. Animals continue to show us, maybe not!
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Post by seaexplore on May 11, 2022 2:26:54 GMT
I’d suggest a slingshot and a few marbles. I’m not generally in favor of hurting animals but crows are a nuisance, Except if you miss the crow will come back with their friends and get you. True story. We have a lot of crows in our area and I hate them. But I ignore them so they memorize my face and terrorize me. That's horrible! I hate crows! They truly are very intelligent.
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Post by maryannscraps on May 11, 2022 10:42:59 GMT
Cooler or box with lid that can’t easily be pushed off. Gotta admire a bird who recognizes food delivery and has a plan. Bird nerd here. Crows are pretty brilliant. They make tools to get treats or bugs, use jar lids to slide down roofs (wheee), much more. They recognize faces too. During a study people wearing halloween masks climbed ladders to crows’ nests and maybe banded nestlings, but didn’t hurt them. I had to look this up: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDPihzRI8mESO COOL!
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Post by peaname on May 11, 2022 11:03:46 GMT
I’d be tempted to order the crow it’s own burrito!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 11, 2022 11:40:32 GMT
Try this one..
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Post by monklady123 on May 11, 2022 12:20:09 GMT
This thread just gets better and better! I love the videos! But the one sliding on the roof on the jar lid... I couldn't help wonder at how he keeps doing that over and over and having a good time, yet he can soar through the air which is wonderful. But of course for him flying is normal, and sliding is something new and different. lol Anyway, again oh yvonne I apologize to your dd for having such a good time reading through this thread at her expense.
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Post by lily on May 11, 2022 13:17:28 GMT
So I talked to DD yesterday and apparently she still had her UberEats app set for 'contactless delivery' from the COVID lockdown days. She has now changed that so they have to wait at the door to hand her the food. Hopefully that will help but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't piss off the crow and he starts attacking the delivery people, lol. I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming! I was going to ask how the heck long was the food sitting out there, thinking it would take a bit of time for the crow to peck thru the outer bag, and then thru the inner wrapper to get the food. And most things come in a plastic like container now so I would have thought the food would be taken in before the crow could get thru all that.....
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Post by oh yvonne on May 11, 2022 13:34:55 GMT
So I talked to DD yesterday and apparently she still had her UberEats app set for 'contactless delivery' from the COVID lockdown days. She has now changed that so they have to wait at the door to hand her the food. Hopefully that will help but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't piss off the crow and he starts attacking the delivery people, lol. I warned her not to interact w/the crow if she can help it at all, oy, these stories are alarming! I was going to ask how the heck long was the food sitting out there, thinking it would take a bit of time for the crow to peck thru the outer bag, and then thru the inner wrapper to get the food. And most things come in a plastic like container now so I would have thought the food would be taken in before the crow could get thru all that..... So that's the thing, the food wasn't out very long at all! She got the notice that the delivery was there and by the time she made it to the front door the crow had already gotten to the bag and its contents. DD's house isn't small, its two story plus it's just spread out, so it does take more than a couple of seconds to make it to the front door. That, plus she is pregnant AND has a toddler so she's not moving as fast as you or I would. Even still, it didn't take her but a minute to get to the door but that's all that crow needed, as you can see by this thread, they are smart little buggers! As far as the container, if you are familiar w/burritos they don't normally come in a plastic container unless you are getting a burrito covered in sauce. Otherwise, they roll it up in wrapping paper and put it in the bag with some chips and some containers of salsa...so that's super easy for a crow to peck right through and get to. IDK what the other meal that the crow got to previously, but from all I've read here, a plastic container wouldn't keep a smart crow out anyway.
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Post by Skellinton on May 11, 2022 13:37:55 GMT
I’d suggest a slingshot and a few marbles. I’m not generally in favor of hurting animals but crows are a nuisance, That seems unnecessarily cruel. Crows are important to our ecosystem. They are scavengers, they eat pest bugs and help with seed spread. Just because you think they are a nuisance (which they aren't) it certainly doesn't warrant hurting them.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 11, 2022 13:39:12 GMT
This thread just gets better and better! I love the videos! But the one sliding on the roof on the jar lid... I couldn't help wonder at how he keeps doing that over and over and having a good time, yet he can soar through the air which is wonderful. But of course for him flying is normal, and sliding is something new and different. lol Anyway, again oh yvonne I apologize to your dd for having such a good time reading through this thread at her expense. awe, we think it was a hilarious story, DD isn't really scared of the crow but you know, protective GiGi over here doesn't want some nasty crow attacking my baby grandson!
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Post by oh yvonne on May 11, 2022 13:40:23 GMT
I’d suggest a slingshot and a few marbles. I’m not generally in favor of hurting animals but crows are a nuisance, That seems unnecessarily cruel. Crows are important to our ecosystem. They are scavengers, they eat pest bugs and help with seed spread. Just because you think they are a nuisance ( which they aren't) it certainly doesn't warrant hurting them. I didn't think she was serious at all. I don't think anyone here is advocating for hurting animals really. and I highly disagree that they aren't a nuisance. Have you read this thread? About Tokyo? It's okay to say a scavenger bird is a nuisance, cause it is true you know for many many people.
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Post by Skellinton on May 11, 2022 13:51:46 GMT
That seems unnecessarily cruel. Crows are important to our ecosystem. They are scavengers, they eat pest bugs and help with seed spread. Just because you think they are a nuisance ( which they aren't) it certainly doesn't warrant hurting them. I didn't think she was serious at all. I don't think anyone here is advocating for hurting animals really. and I highly disagree that they aren't a nuisance. Have you read this thread? About Tokyo? It's okay to say a scavenger bird is a nuisance, cause it is true you know for many many people. Well your daughter's crow is not a nuisance that warrants hurting it. And since she said she normally does not advocate violence, I do not think she meant her post in a jocular way. I did read the thread and as a general rule crows are beneficial animals that are important part of our ecosystem. I agree with most everyone else. This is a pretty simple fix, get a cooler with a good lock that will be strong enough to keep a crow out.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 11, 2022 14:07:17 GMT
This thread just gets better and better! I love the videos! But the one sliding on the roof on the jar lid... I couldn't help wonder at how he keeps doing that over and over and having a good time, yet he can soar through the air which is wonderful. But of course for him flying is normal, and sliding is something new and different. lol Anyway, again oh yvonne I apologize to your dd for having such a good time reading through this thread at her expense. awe, we think it was a hilarious story, DD isn't really scared of the crow but you know, protective GiGi over here doesn't want some nasty crow attacking my baby grandson! She does need to learn caution. Seriously, if your DD's house remains a source of food, she needs to watch when the kids are outside with a snack in hand or even on a plate. The seagulls here will take food right out of people's hands ... So it is or could be a problem....
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