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Post by edie3 on Jun 15, 2022 13:40:26 GMT
but petites don't?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 15, 2022 13:42:38 GMT
One thing is cost of materials.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 15, 2022 13:51:39 GMT
Yes, more fabric.
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Post by mayceesgranny on Jun 15, 2022 14:00:39 GMT
I believe plus sizes cost more because the industry is preying on the vanity of women and knowing there are less options for plus size women they know they can get them to pay higher prices for something that is actually pretty and flattering. Yes there is more fabric used, but imho not enough to justify the price increase. Honestly, how can you justify $10-20 more for an 1x versus an XL?
As a woman who can wear an XL in some brands and a 2x in others, this is frustrating to me!
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 15, 2022 14:53:58 GMT
Because they can and will.  |
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Post by amom23 on Jun 15, 2022 14:56:18 GMT
If you shop online at QVC they don't charge extra for plus sizes.
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Post by disneypal on Jun 15, 2022 14:58:00 GMT
One thing is cost of materials. This is the reason, I believe. There is more material used in making plus sized clothing, therefore, more cost.
As a woman who can wear an XL in some brands and a 2x in others, this is frustrating to me!
So, so true and extremely frustrating. I was just discussing with my sister that I wish there was a country wide requirement regarding sizing. For example...anything that is a woman's XL must be so many inches wide and the sleeves must be so many inches in diameter or something like that.
I once saw a blouse that I really loved and it was black with flowers. I tried it on and it fit PERFECTLY. I saw a white one just like - exact brand, same floral pattern, same size. The only difference was the background was white instead of black. A few days later I put on the white one and it was so tight that I couldn't button it. What happened? They were the SAME exact shirt, brand and size - just a different color. It just goes to show how inconsistent sizing is.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 15, 2022 15:42:10 GMT
Well, my DH is a big, tall guy who wears size 3XLT t-shirts. They are HUGE. I can understand how something like that should cost more than a men’s medium or large because it’s literally twice as much fabric. What I don’t understand is why a women’s plain white dress shirt in any size costs way more than a plain white men’s dress shirt. The fabric is the same, the style is similar but because women will pay more, her shirt will cost more. That is what’s total crap. And I’m right there with you on the sizing frustration bench disneypal! I’ve known for years that if I buy a pair of blue denim jeans in the brand and size I normally buy they will fit perfectly. But if I buy the exact same size, brand, style and cut in black or some other color I can’t even get them buttoned because they’re easily a whole size smaller, EVERY time. It’s crazy. Now more recently, I’ve noticed they have changed the fabric itself that the jeans I normally buy are made of and even the size I used to buy in blue doesn’t fit the same. I thought “ugh, maybe I’ve gained some weight” but when I hold up a pair of the new ones against a pair of the old ones that I would only wear occasionally so they wouldn’t fade so fast, the new ones are visibly smaller. Plus the new fabric feels cheap and stretchy like it has a lot more polyester in it. Ew. I hate that. |
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Post by Patter on Jun 15, 2022 16:29:07 GMT
I will also add that as a seamstress when you have more material, it takes longer to sew. So the cost of labor increases because it takes longer to sew each garment..
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 15, 2022 16:38:50 GMT
It does seem they should factor that in and apply an average price across all sizes. I didn’t realize plus sizes cost more. Odd because I dont think a size 12 costs more than a size 2 normally.
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 15, 2022 16:50:33 GMT
It does seem they should factor that in and apply an average price across all sizes. I didn’t realize plus sizes cost more. Odd because I dont think a size 12 costs more than a size 2 normally. I'm currently shopping for bathing suit bottoms... size 10 $25, size 12, $30. WTF? Same brand, style, color. There's like 3" square more fabric MAYBE! |
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 15, 2022 16:58:32 GMT
It does seem they should factor that in and apply an average price across all sizes. I didn’t realize plus sizes cost more. Odd because I dont think a size 12 costs more than a size 2 normally. I'm currently shopping for bathing suit bottoms... size 10 $25, size 12, $30. WTF? Same brand, style, color. There's like 3" square more fabric MAYBE! wow I had no idea they were doing that now |
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Post by inkedup on Jun 15, 2022 17:09:25 GMT
I'm between a size 12 and 16, depending on the item and brand. I straddle the line between standard and plus sizes.
I do understand why plus sizes are more expensive. More material and labor to cut and sew.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 15, 2022 17:16:28 GMT
Really a larger size costs more in every respect. The pattern has to be enlarged, more paper to the pattern, more fabric, more thread, more time everything. If you buy fabric the difference in fabric alone is more when you are buying 1 yard or 3 yards.
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 15, 2022 17:26:19 GMT
I'm currently shopping for bathing suit bottoms... size 10 $25, size 12, $30. WTF? Same brand, style, color. There's like 3" square more fabric MAYBE! wow I had no idea they were doing that now I don't know if it's common practice but I was like... OMG! $5 more for a pair of bathing suit bottoms ONE SIZE up?  Seriously? I'll squeeze myself into those 10's! LOL |
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Post by katlady on Jun 15, 2022 17:33:01 GMT
It is like kids shoes. There is a certain size, don’t remember now, where the price jumps for the same shoe. I remember when my kid’s feet grew and he could no longer fit in the smaller size and I had to pay more. But I don’t think adult shoe prices differ based on size, why just kids?! I pay the same for my size 5 as someone who wears a 10.
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Post by Merge on Jun 15, 2022 17:45:38 GMT
I don’t buy the more fabric thing because a size 14 does not typically cost more than a size 0. They average the cost of materials and labor for all sizes out instead.
Old Navy has figured out that they can do that not just from size 0 to 14 but also up through the plus sizes they carry. All the same price. Imagine that.
I’m another of those who straddles the line between regular and plus sizes. Today I was annoyed that two stores I went into had literally nothing in stock larger than a medium. J. Crew and Madewell, which I think are owned by the same company. I asked a clerk and she said typically they only get a couple of large and one XL in each style, and they sell really quickly. I’m left to believe that they are doing the old Abercrombie trick of not really wanting average or larger size people in the store. Does not inspire me to want to shop with them online, either.
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Post by katlady on Jun 15, 2022 18:17:21 GMT
Madewell has odd sizing. I think they go all the way down to a XXS. I am normally a S or M, but at Madewell I wear a XS. I once tried a XXS and it was a tad too tight. I think they use vanity sizing, make you think you are smaller.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 15, 2022 18:38:50 GMT
It does seem they should factor that in and apply an average price across all sizes. I didn’t realize plus sizes cost more. Odd because I dont think a size 12 costs more than a size 2 normally. My uneducated guess would be that they do factor that in across sizes, but it is in two categories—regular and plus. |
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Post by edie3 on Jun 15, 2022 19:50:43 GMT
So if it is fabric and time, then petites should cost less.
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Post by maryland on Jun 15, 2022 20:09:24 GMT
Well, my DH is a big, tall guy who wears size 3XLT t-shirts. They are HUGE. I can understand how something like that should cost more than a men’s medium or large because it’s literally twice as much fabric. What I don’t understand is why a women’s plain white dress shirt in any size costs way more than a plain white men’s dress shirt. The fabric is the same, the style is similar but because women will pay more, her shirt will cost more. That is what’s total crap. And I’m right there with you on the sizing frustration bench disneypal ! I’ve known for years that if I buy a pair of blue denim jeans in the brand and size I normally buy they will fit perfectly. But if I buy the exact same size, brand, style and cut in black or some other color I can’t even get them buttoned because they’re easily a whole size smaller, EVERY time. It’s crazy. Now more recently, I’ve noticed they have changed the fabric itself that the jeans I normally buy are made of and even the size I used to buy in blue doesn’t fit the same. I thought “ugh, maybe I’ve gained some weight” but when I hold up a pair of the new ones against a pair of the old ones that I would only wear occasionally so they wouldn’t fade so fast, the new ones are visibly smaller. Plus the new fabric feels cheap and stretchy like it has a lot more polyester in it. Ew. I hate that. If the amount of material/cost to sew is what makes larger sizes cost more, then it sounds like men's clothes should cost more than women's. I will start buying some men's clothes if they are cheaper than women's. I am cheap and I won't pay a lot for clothes. My husband has much more expensive taste in clothes than I do! I was the opposite when I growing up through when I had my first child. I was so into fashion and make up back then. |
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Post by katlady on Jun 15, 2022 20:30:59 GMT
So if it is fabric and time, then petites should cost less. But you can’t find petite sizes in stores anymore. Nordstrom no longer has a petite section. Some Macys are doing away with theirs. Many others sell it online only. I want to touch and try it on before I buy it. But I see your logic that it should be cheaper than regular sized clothes! |
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Post by kate on Jun 15, 2022 21:09:30 GMT
I don’t buy the more fabric thing because a size 14 does not typically cost more than a size 0. They average the cost of materials and labor for all sizes out instead. THIS. And when my kids were little, I remember fussing over the cost of little kids' clothing and being told that "the labor is the same or more difficult than making adult clothes - it's not about the amount of fabric."  |
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Post by Tamhugh on Jun 15, 2022 21:10:53 GMT
It is like kids shoes. There is a certain size, don’t remember now, where the price jumps for the same shoe. I remember when my kid’s feet grew and he could no longer fit in the smaller size and I had to pay more. But I don’t think adult shoe prices differ based on size, why just kids?! I pay the same for my size 5 as someone who wears a 10. And unless you wear larger than a size 8 in women’s, you can wear a youth size show for a lot less money. I found a pair of Nike running shoes that I loved in the outlet once and they didn’t have my size. The salesperson said they had the identical shoe in youth and it was close to half the price |
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 15, 2022 21:26:53 GMT
A few times I’ve bought childrens’ shoes and found they were no way near as comfortable or as well made as adult shoes.
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Post by jayfab on Jun 15, 2022 21:43:49 GMT
I don't buy the more fabric story. There was a certain item I was looking at, one an xl and the other was 1x. I couldn't decide which size I needed. I checked the measurements printed right on the website and they were the exact same, but the 1x was 5 bucks more. Of course they weren't listed on the same page. You had to go to the plus size page to order plus sizes so a lot of people wouldn't know.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 15, 2022 22:09:30 GMT
Well, my DH is a big, tall guy who wears size 3XLT t-shirts. They are HUGE. I can understand how something like that should cost more than a men’s medium or large because it’s literally twice as much fabric. What I don’t understand is why a women’s plain white dress shirt in any size costs way more than a plain white men’s dress shirt. The fabric is the same, the style is similar but because women will pay more, her shirt will cost more. That is what’s total crap. And I’m right there with you on the sizing frustration bench disneypal ! I’ve known for years that if I buy a pair of blue denim jeans in the brand and size I normally buy they will fit perfectly. But if I buy the exact same size, brand, style and cut in black or some other color I can’t even get them buttoned because they’re easily a whole size smaller, EVERY time. It’s crazy. Now more recently, I’ve noticed they have changed the fabric itself that the jeans I normally buy are made of and even the size I used to buy in blue doesn’t fit the same. I thought “ugh, maybe I’ve gained some weight” but when I hold up a pair of the new ones against a pair of the old ones that I would only wear occasionally so they wouldn’t fade so fast, the new ones are visibly smaller. Plus the new fabric feels cheap and stretchy like it has a lot more polyester in it. Ew. I hate that. If the amount of material/cost to sew is what makes larger sizes cost more, then it sounds like men's clothes should cost more than women's. I will start buying some men's clothes if they are cheaper than women's. I am cheap and I won't pay a lot for clothes. My husband has much more expensive taste in clothes than I do! I was the opposite when I growing up through when I had my first child. I was so into fashion and make up back then. Men’s clothes ARE cheaper than women’s generally, especially for basic stuff. I stopped buying women’s sweatshirt hoodies and now will only get them from the men’s department. Not only do I like how they fit (overall looser but especially in the arms so I can more comfortably wear a t-shirt underneath) but they are always less expensive too. |
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 15, 2022 22:22:24 GMT
Because they can.
The whole “more materials” thing is bullshit. Kids clothes don’t vary in price whether it’s 2T or 12, and the 12 is a hell of a lot more material.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 15, 2022 22:33:03 GMT
It does seem they should factor that in and apply an average price across all sizes. I didn’t realize plus sizes cost more. Odd because I dont think a size 12 costs more than a size 2 normally. My uneducated guess would be that they do factor that in across sizes, but it is in two categories—regular and plus. Okay, but the difference between a size 0 and size 12 is much larger than the difference between size 12 and size 14. And I agree with the other poster, then petites should cost less. I agree with those that say it is because they can because of lack of suitable options. |
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Post by jenna on Jun 15, 2022 22:51:03 GMT
One thing to think of is a properly made plus size garment shouldn't be a "sized up" straight size one -- the pattern needs to be redrafted to fit a plus sized body and the curves they don't account for with straight sized clothing. I guess that adds onto the anywhere from $2-5 upcharge?? Being fat is expensive AF in so many ways and clothing is another way for companies to tell you LOL U SUCK. While simultaneously telling us we should be grateful because we don't have to shop at the stores our moms did eh?  signed, a totally not bitter 13 year old who couldn't find skinny jeans like her friends until she was a sophomore and her mom bought a new fancy heavy duty sewing machine that could handle denim to make me my own. |
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Seriously? I'll squeeze myself into those 10's! LOL
