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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 18:10:21 GMT
I'm just about to run out but I'll check later for responses. Don't want anyone to think that I posted and ran.
Yesterday was my last day. I was about to have 2 weeks off. The woman I Nanny for is having her baby today. We discussed this a few weeks ago. As soon as she got the date to be induced and go to the hospital, she told me. She initially said it would be 2 weeks. That was tough enough on me ($$ wise, to pay the rent & bills).
Yesterday, AS I WAS LEAVING, she dropped it on me that it would actually be SIX weeks off!!!!!!!!!!! WTF? If we had discussed it earlier, maybe I'd understand it more? But I completely am confused and pissed off.
She's always praising me for teaching her daughter things. She knows I take the best care of her. She and her husband are constantly telling me this. Every day when I leave, the baby comes to me and refuses to go back to her parents. I'm sure it's because she has my full attention for 8 hours straight. Right now their lives are quite busy.
Okay, so the mom is having the baby today or tomorrow.... The dad's mom is terminally ill and was in the hospital for an emergency. She's coming back home (there!) any day. The mom has her mom and step-dad living 10 min away and they help out a lot. They moved to FL this year to be closer to this daughter. Her dad and step-mom (I have a feeling that she doesn't see them too often) are coming for a few weeks and staying in an airbnb near them. They'll all help out with the toddler I watch and hopefully help out.
Is it crappy to dump on me that I have 6 weeks off vs. 2 weeks?? Would be nice if I were paid for those weeks, but of course I'm not. Now I have NO idea how I'll pay the rent or bills once again. I was JUST about making it with this Nanny gig. I'm wondering if they plan on firing me when these 6 weeks are over, or what? ?? (Not sure I'd even choose to stay if they expect me to help out with this new baby).
I've been looking for new Nanny jobs. They're hard to come by. I've been to many where the dad was a perv or completely off the wall. I'm kinda comfortable with these people. So, would you be mad?? I had no time to talk about it with the mom.
(I'll be looking CONSTANTLY for another job, and if I find a better one, I'll take it & pray that it IS indeed better!!!!). For now I'm completely stressed and worried once again. Always 5 steps ahead, 10 steps back. Damn!
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Post by oh yvonne on Jun 23, 2022 18:14:13 GMT
omg that's huge. What a bomb to drop on you! That's so awful and unfair and chickenshit of them. Wow. I'm so sorry! Can you get unemployment? IDK how FL works.
I really hope something else falls into place for you ASAP. I would never trust them again.
If you belong to your local MOMS Facebook page I know for my area people are always posting when they are looking for a good Nanny. <hugs> I'm sorry.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 23, 2022 18:16:04 GMT
i have a sinking suspicion that they always knew it would be 6 weeks instead of 2. nevertheless, that sucked and i would be pissed too. i hope you find something for the time being or maybe as a replacement.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 23, 2022 18:18:13 GMT
I am so sorry. I assume you work for the family FT, is that correct? Have you asked them to pay you for the time off? Some people just don’t realize how their decisions affect others.
And if you’ve asked, and they won’t pay you, then yes. I most definitely look for a new job.
I don’t have a nanny, but I do have an every two week housecleaner. I pay her if I’m sick, traveling, and during covid. If I didn't, I’d expect that she’d (understandably) move on.
Good luck!
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Post by grammadee on Jun 23, 2022 18:19:09 GMT
That’s tough when you have no income for that period and no notice to find an alternative.
When I came home with a new baby I wanted time for the family to bond as a unit and especially time for older siblings to bond with the baby and reaffirm that I still love and support them even if I am busy with the baby. Maybe it suddenly occurred to her that she would have very little of that time with grandparents’ lives changing. I would not assume her change of plans was about you.
I would be worried and disappointed but not mad. It’s too bad she didn’t realize what a negative impact this would have on you.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 23, 2022 18:24:56 GMT
I would be very disappointed that they didn’t let me know about this much earlier. Don’t they know that you are a widow and this is your primary source of income? Or at least an integral component of your income? I think that was really thoughtless and quite rude to just dump this on you at the last minute. Did you say anything in response? Had you discussed what you would be charging them with an additional baby to care for?
As for quitting, I would say you owe them no loyalty after a stunt like this. I would immediately start looking for another source of income, preferably a permanent position. If you find one, I would be awfully tempted to just not say anything until after the 6 weeks when they want you to return to work. ‘Oh, I’ve accepted another position. Sorry!” Let them scramble for a replacement nanny last minute.
Is it possible to sign up with an agency to get work? Even if they are shorter gigs, it is at least money coming in. I’m sorry they did this to you. They obviously don’t understand your circumstances.
**Added: How about signing up with some hotels in your area. Don’t most better hotels offer babysitting services to their guests? And maybe if you like it enough, you could use it to supplement your income even after you find a replacement daytime nanny position.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 23, 2022 18:26:29 GMT
How disheartening. I’d probably try to find another gig while you wait. Then you can decide what to do in 6 weeks. It could be that are tight on money with the new baby, that they want the family to be around the older child, or that it just seems like if mom will be home she won’t need a nanny. Or it could be that they want you back in 2 weeks after all because child care is exhausting.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 23, 2022 18:33:44 GMT
That stinks. Yes I would be in a bind too if someone did that to me. It is not fun to figure out where money is going to come from all of a sudden. I would definitely start looking... maybe it is a sign to bigger and better.
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Post by christinec68 on Jun 23, 2022 18:43:47 GMT
I would be beyond furious and would spend all my time finding something, anything so that I could quit. I would want to wait to tell them at the end of the six weeks but I'd rise above and let them know after I started the new job. I'm sorry this happened to you. Good luck with what you decide.
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Post by mom2jnk on Jun 23, 2022 18:53:22 GMT
Sorry, but the idea that someone thinks that it's perfectly okay to ask you to go without pay for SIX WEEKS with zero notice and then expect you to return to work for them is just unacceptable. I am seriously pissed for you. The right thing for them to have done in the first place is to pay you for the time that they will not need your services if they expect you to put a hold on your life to return to them later.
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Post by disneypal on Jun 23, 2022 18:57:03 GMT
Would I be angry that I thought I would lose 2 weeks of pay and now I am losing 6 weeks, without any prior notice - you bet I would be!
Would I quit? Not yet. I would seek other employment and if other work came up before the 6 weeks, I would accept the new position and then tell them that you had to find other employment since you could not afford to go without pay for 6 weeks, and that you had previously been told you would only lose 2 weeks. But...since you need the work and otherwise like the family okay, I wouldn't quit UNTIL I had another position in place.
I am so sorry, I can only imagine how hard it will be to be without income for 6 weeks.
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Post by pilcas on Jun 23, 2022 18:57:54 GMT
I was a teacher and had a nanny for my two kids. She worked through the summer even though I did not need her. What they did is crappy and they should not assume you will be there when they want you back.
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Post by Kerri W on Jun 23, 2022 19:05:54 GMT
If they were using basically any other type of childcare they would have to pay to hold their spot. What they are doing is crappy. I would absolutely tell them the 6 weeks took you by surprise and you want to give them a head's up that because you were put in that position at the last minute, you will have to look for a different job to fill that time.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 23, 2022 19:35:08 GMT
Did you sign a contract with them?? I know my niece who runs a licensed inhome day care has things like this spelled out. If you did not, then they can let you go whenever they want. You have NOT been happy there. Their child naps ON YOU. Don't quit yet---keep looking and then decide. I would also tell them that this has put you in a financial bind. Be honest with them...
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Post by myshelly on Jun 23, 2022 19:38:14 GMT
I think you’re justified in being pissed off, but do you have a contract that spells out things like this? If not, you should.
Take another job if you find one, otherwise don’t piss off this family in the meantime 🤷🏻♀️ Not much else you can do without a contract.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 19:40:51 GMT
I'm sorry what a really tough spot to be put in, especially when they aren't available to talk with about it with the new baby arriving. I'd be inclined to start looking for a new job, give them a week to settle in and then have a conversation with them letting them know you can't afford to go without pay for 6 weeks and you may potentially not be available to come back. I mean, if they were paying for daycare at a center or someone else's home, they would need to continue to pay to hold their spot. No reason they should take advantage of you, two weeks with absolutely no pay would have already been a lot IMO.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 23, 2022 20:00:49 GMT
It blows my mind that she unilaterally changed the terms of your verbal agreement without a discussion or thought as to how it would impact you. I'd be furious and looking for another job. I would also look for a nanny contract template that could be used for future jobs.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 23, 2022 20:25:25 GMT
I would not formally quit but I would look for other jobs.. anything. I am so sorry this happened to you.. if you take another nanny job, have the family sign a contract!! even if it is just sick time off, vacation notice, etc. over time, minimum time (like 3 hours at a time).. hugs!!!
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 23, 2022 20:26:45 GMT
I can't believe she only planned to take 2 weeks off work. I can't imagine!
I'm also surprised you haven't had any conversations about your role with the new baby. I would assume they are expecting you'll be the full time nanny for that baby, too, so I would be prepared to tell them what your price increase for another child - an infant no less - will be!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 20:30:28 GMT
It is completely crappy that they dropped it on you that it's now 6 weeks. I wouldn't trust them at all. What if they are stringing you along? I would search for another job asap. And if they do come back to you in 6 weeks you can say okay I want a $$$ raise. And I know you keep getting set backs. But try to look at this as a new open door. Maybe you can find a non-trumper family.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 23, 2022 20:33:26 GMT
I'm so sorry. I would be mad if that was dumped on me too. I wouldn't quit immediately but would certainly be looking for another role now.
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Post by kate on Jun 23, 2022 20:55:32 GMT
Would I quit? Not yet. I would seek other employment and if other work came up before the 6 weeks, I would accept the new position and then tell them that you had to find other employment since you could not afford to go without pay for 6 weeks, and that you had previously been told you would only lose 2 weeks. But...since you need the work and otherwise like the family okay, I wouldn't quit UNTIL I had another position in place. This is excellent advice, as is the advice to increase your rate if/when they ask you to care for the new baby as well. You can use this time to "try on" a new job, be it another childcare position, Starbucks, whatever! If you hate the new job, you can quit and go back to this family. It is COMPLETELY unreasonable for them to expect you to twiddle your thumbs and eat ramen packets until they ask you back. I wonder if you might get a call sooner than 6 weeks, when Mom realizes how hard it is to care for a newborn on top of her other responsibilities.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 23, 2022 20:59:49 GMT
I keep thinking about this and I am so upset for you. If I were that mother, I would want to continue to have you coming just to give me a hand. Going from one child to two is apparently really a shock to the system that most parents are not anticipating. At least that is what both of my sisters said when their second baby was born. Even if you just came for a half day, you would be a tremendous help to the new mother. How old is the child you have been watching? Toddler or more? They forget what having a newborn is like. I am willing to bet you get a phone call asking you to return at least part time to help out. And hopefully you have a new and better position by then. And get a contract with any new people. Don’t undervalue yourself. You are providing an essential service and need some written clarification. This isn’t a Saturday night few hours of babysitting while mom and dad go to the movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 21:27:20 GMT
Sorry, but the idea that someone thinks that it's perfectly okay to ask you to go without pay for SIX WEEKS with zero notice and then expect you to return to work for them is just unacceptable. I am seriously pissed for you. The right thing for them to have done in the first place is to pay you for the time that they will not need your services if they expect you to put a hold on your life to return to them later. Yes exactly. And if I'm remembering correctly @bergdorfblonde this couple is well off?
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Post by mom on Jun 23, 2022 21:28:05 GMT
Did you ask them if they would be paying you or are you just assuming? I feel like you need to get some clarity on this before getting mad and especially. before quitting.
Yes, its crappy that they dropped this bomb on you. I wouldn't quit without another job secured first. And going forward, I would need a contract about what happens when something like this (or vacation...or whatever else) comes up.
Every daycare I have ever been around requires parents to pay even if there kids are gone for a week or whatever, to hold their spot. Im not sure why anyone would expect you to sit and home without a pay check just because they are having a second child.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 23, 2022 21:30:48 GMT
Would I quit? Not yet. I would seek other employment and if other work came up before the 6 weeks, I would accept the new position and then tell them that you had to find other employment since you could not afford to go without pay for 6 weeks, and that you had previously been told you would only lose 2 weeks. But...since you need the work and otherwise like the family okay, I wouldn't quit UNTIL I had another position in place. This is excellent advice, as is the advice to increase your rate if/when they ask you to care for the new baby as well. You can use this time to "try on" a new job, be it another childcare position, Starbucks, whatever! If you hate the new job, you can quit and go back to this family. It is COMPLETELY unreasonable for them to expect you to twiddle your thumbs and eat ramen packets until they ask you back. I wonder if you might get a call sooner than 6 weeks, when Mom realizes how hard it is to care for a newborn on top of her other responsibilities. This is what I would do, too.
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Post by pilcas on Jun 23, 2022 21:43:11 GMT
Me being the vengeful type would probably not mention my new job until close to the end of the six weeks. Plus to make sure the new job is working out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 22:34:04 GMT
omg that's huge. What a bomb to drop on you! That's so awful and unfair and chickenshit of them. Wow. I'm so sorry! Can you get unemployment? IDK how FL works. I really hope something else falls into place for you ASAP. I would never trust them again. If you belong to your local MOMS Facebook page I know for my area people are always posting when they are looking for a good Nanny. <hugs> I'm sorry. Good idea about the MOMS Facebook page!! I'll check it out. (Sent you Peamail.)
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Post by tincin on Jun 23, 2022 22:36:14 GMT
My sister got a job at a Happy Elephant Daycare and she loves it. While it’s not full time she is happy with the pay and is offered some sort of medical insurance and retirement plan. I’m unsure if that’s a local thing or not but you may want to look in that direction if you enjoy what you are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 22:39:10 GMT
I would not formally quit but I would look for other jobs.. anything. I am so sorry this happened to you.. if you take another nanny job, have the family sign a contract!! even if it is just sick time off, vacation notice, etc. over time, minimum time (like 3 hours at a time).. hugs!!! This is what I'm doing. I NEVER stopped looking at other jobs, so I'll keep looking. Can't really sign any kind of Contract since this is just an off-the-books type of job. I'm not entitled to sick days, vacation time, federal holidays, etc. With over-time, I AM paid for every minute I work. If they NEED me to stay longer and I can stay, I do, and I get paid (but not overtime!)....
Thanks for the advice and for the hugs!
On top of it all, my new cellphone just broke. Grr........... I've had it with these free gov't phones. They used to be better, but it seems like they're crappier and they're always breaking. It's more work than it's worth! I might take DH's phone and just get a really cheap plan with Ting. We'll see. Great timing!
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