What do you think should be done if there are "red flags"?

We should treat owning guns like driving a car. You have to take an extensive class, practice under supervision, take exams, and reapply for ownership periodically.

In terms of red flag laws, it can depend on who refers the person, and then the case is taken up by a judge. It could be law enforcement, mental health providers, co-workers, school employees like counselors, school psychs or social workers, etc.(depending on the state).

This is a good explanation: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/14/what-is-a-red-flag-law/


ETA: In terms of first amendment rights, that's the purpose of the judge. The judge is there to allow for due process under the law. The first amendment does not protect hate speech or other acts that endanger others. Your first amendment right does not supercede another person's right to life and liberty.

Anyone who wants to own a gun should undergo a stringent background check including a mental health evaluation. They should also need to complete these items in order to renew- every 1 to 2 years. If someone makes posts or comments that peopke find threatening, the guns should be taken away until the person can be reevaluated.
Automatic-type weapons (whatever they are called) should be banned again and be required to be turned in (or ban the ammo so they cant use them)

The 2nd amendment was intended to cover the need for a militia. Not to arm every lunatic conspiracy theorist in the country.

I have no objection to hunting rifles and if someone feels that they live in a dangerous area, a single hand gun. Beyond that, there is no need.

The general consensus of the public regarding guns was vastly different before the NRA came about and started buying off politicians.

Advocate for red flag laws at every level of government: your city, county and state.

Report any disturbing videos to everyone possible. The platform hosting the videos, local law enforcement, local politicians and news organizations. 

Don't sit back and think someone else will/should/might do it. Every one of us needs to be doing this.

I don't care about the person being upset at being reported. Let them defend what they are doing and see that others are watching.

i honestly don't know how we can promote public safety without being accused of violating of civil rights. there seems to be a very thin line between the two.

So, my understanding of mandated reporting is that the system operates in order to report child abuse and endangerment perpetrated by someone upon the child. I actually am not 100% sure if we would be reporting to DCFS about some of these issues that may arise, but personally I would go directly to admin and our school resource officer with any concerns that are related to school violence or threats. They would act much more quickly.

In Illinois, we are required to have a threat assessment team (recently made a little firmer by a law signed in mid-May), that includes a school psych, social worker, counselor, teacher, assistant principals/admin, school resource officer/other law enforcement officer. This team develops an action plan to address potential threats, including threats of gun violence.

I will say, having taught for a long time now, teachers are ALL over this in my district. We pay attention to drawings, writing, clothing, comments, changes in student behavior, and we all are used to communicating with our school psych/social worker. Sometimes that includes referral to law enforcement. (We have had instances of expulsions/arrests for weapons, threats, etc. at my school). It's not the same system as reporting to DCFS, though. We are also required to have a school safety tip line for students/community members to be able to call in with any concerns, including suicide concerns, a new law requires this number to be on the backs of all student IDs, and we are always discussing "see something, say something." 


ETA: After researching, it looks like in IL the extreme risk/red flag law allows for reporting from law enforcement or family members, so educators would work with those people in this capacity. (This would be beyond educators advocating for and providing social work and school psych services, including recommending/facilitating access to external mental health supports.)
everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/illinois/

Funny how so many conservatives don't give a shit about women's civil rights but think the right to bear arms is sacrosanct. 

i don't understand it either.  it's hard to reconcile it. i hear my friend go on and on about abolishing abortion but be pissed off at the same time that the local government (who she works for) required that she be vaccinated in order to keep working there. she shouldn't be told what to do with her body she said.  

While I can appreciate the unique situations encountered in Alaska, I still think it should be an extensive process for anyone to obtain (and keep) a firearm (regardless of whether you need to shoot bears or not). 

If I have to prove to a dog rescue that I have a fenced in yard before I can adopt a pet, potential gun owners should have to demonstrate mental and physical competency, appropriate storage, and should have to recertify regularly.

I also think red flag laws should include databases (national and state) to help with the issuing of firearm permits. If someone feels they are unfairly being flagged, there should be a due process in place to address that. 

No one needs a weapon that quickly for any good reason. 

We had a child in our building say they were going to bring a gun to school and shoot everyone up. Unfortunately he was in a room alone with two teachers and no child heard him. Because it was reported to the principal and you know what was done? He was sent to the office for the rest of the day where he preceded to walk around and chat with the secretaries. The next day he was in the classroom like nothing had happened. If another child would have heard and spread it around, then we would have had some action. But no, if they can sweep it under the rug in my building, they do. Threats have been made against teachers. Nothing is done. In fact, half the time you call the office the administration doesn't call back or show up. We are kind of on our own.

I'm an art teacher so I see a lot of different disturbing drawings and turn them in. You know what happens? If I'm lucky a one day in-school suspension. Usually nothing.

Sometimes we do call the police but they don't do anything about it, either. They talk to the kid and then go on their merry way.

We are on our own.

Or anything else that could possibly limit gun ownership. Wouldn’t you think that with all of these tragedies, that they might think about someone other than themselves? The selfishness is incredible.

Here's my question about red flag laws.

Say a household contains DH, DW, DS19, DD18.
There are guns in the house owned by DH. If DW or one of the kids is the one who is flagged, does that do anything for DH's guns?

Say all 4 people in the house own guns. If one of them is flagged is it only the guns by that one person who are removed but all the other guns are still allowed?

I just don't understand how they work in a house with more than one person.

Just like the grandfather of the Robb shooting all but literally came out and said "I am a felon. I cannot have firearms in my house. My wife (who literally was shot) and I did not approve of this.

Gun laws will not resolve this problem.

I think we need them, but people are afraid they'll be abused. 

It would depend on the state and how that legislation is written (including who is allowed to report).

Every state is allowed to pass (or not pass) their own red flag laws.