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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 14:34:14 GMT
I'm just curious if anyone is a vegetarian and lives with a meat eater? One who might even be a little picky about vegetables?
I tried to get Jeremy on board with a vegan diet several years ago. I found veganism way too strict and he was basically kicking and screaming over it. I am thinking veganism is too strict and I like the idea of eggs, cheese, and milk still in my diet. But I'd like to cut out beef, chicken and pork for sure. I'm an occasional on seafood. I do love seafood.
I am just wondering if anyone else is in a relationship like this and might give me some feedback on how hard it is to cook for two people one of whom is like it isn't dinner without meat. Is the meat eater satisfied by just throwing a chicken breast in the oven and serving what you're eating alongside it?
And did you tiptoe in gently? Did this help to not disturb the balance of things? I'm thinking of starting by just inserting more meatless meals to start.
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Post by busy on Aug 8, 2022 14:48:52 GMT
That's tough.
It's different, but I need to eat gluten-free for medical reasons (not celiac) and DH and DS are fine with gluten. I am the primary cook but I don't think it's fair to force them to eat the way I need to just because I don't want to cook separate things, or to make their meals second-class citizens and prioritize how I eat. We also value mealtimes together, so I'm not interested in DH and I cooking separate meals per our eating types.
So I plan dishes that have easy modifications for my needs and generally similar to how we've always eaten for them (which is still healthy and varied, just with some gluten). It's not the most convenient, but it respects all of our preferences and needs. Some of our meals our gluten-free for everyone (we eat a lot of main course salads) but if I'm making pasta, I'm not going to force zoodles on them because they love normal pasta (though I do add some, along with their real pasta).
I think starting with more meatless meals is a good idea, but I think just throwing a chicken breast in the oven and calling it good isn't going to work out great. I think the person who's making the change needs to bear the brunt of the change, not the person who prefers to stick with how things are. Maybe some meal prep over weekends could help find a good balance while staying manageable during the week.
ETA: I think it’s different when a relationship begins with different eating styles than when one person changes their eating style years into a relationship.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 8, 2022 14:50:09 GMT
Well as a meat eater this would basically be a deal breaker. But I would cook my own meat if my DH was a vegetarian.. but I probably wouldn't have married him in the first place if that was the case.. lol.. but let's say for medical reasons and couldn't be helped. I would cook my own meal or meat. I am not a veggie lover at all... I'm like a 12 year old picky eater.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 8, 2022 14:56:09 GMT
jeremysgirl you know that I am vegetarian but not by choice. I do have pork 3-4 a month. But allllllll other meats, including sea food, I am allergic to. Dd has to ha e good protein due to her medical needs. But she also loves fruits and vegetables. Dh likes some vegetables but not broccoli, asparagus, Brussel sprouts, and zucchini. For my sanity we have 2 meatless meals a week, sometimes 3. I do Buddha bowls with basmati rice and a lot of vegetables. Some raw, some sautéed. I also do salads right now because it's freaking hotter than Satan's arm pit (106° yesterday). And Wednesday is breakfast dinner because it is IgG day and dd gets nausea. Other meals, I have several vegetables and lettuce prepped so I can enjoy dinner and eat what I fix dh and dd but then also have things I like and they can eat them too. So the biggest help us meal prep. I prep for 3 days. Lettuce is washed and cut. Vegetables are cut up in different ways. Fruit is washed and either ready to eat (cherriew) or cut up (watermelon). I also prep my vegan ranch dressing. So instead of cooking 2 meals, my meals are prepped and I just have to cook for dh and dd and I can eat from their meal and sub in extra stuff from my prep. I don't push my meatlessness on dh. But doing the above has made things easier. Because there are 3 people with various needs, I have to prep or I would hate meal time.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 8, 2022 14:58:40 GMT
Soups and salads are a great way to meet both needs in my opinion.
Dh could add meat and yours could be strictly vegetarian.
For soups, I prep it with the vegetables and then IP chicken for dh and dd to add.
Taco salads are also fun. Mine has no meat. Dh and dd have ground turkey or shredded chicken on theirs.
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Post by craftedbys on Aug 8, 2022 15:00:24 GMT
This is my life. DD is a vegetarian, although technically a pescatarian because she will occasionally eat shrimp or tilapia.
My dad lives with us, and he is a meat and potatoes guy, as is DH.
Some days cooking is much easier than others. If I am making a meat, potatoes, vegetables and salad DD will fix herself a plant based protein and eat the sides.
If we are grilling DH will grill her a portobello mushroom cap or a beyond burger.
It gets tricky when fixing a dish where everything is mixed together like a chicken broccoli rice or rotel chicken.
What I have learned to do, although as a meat eater it doesn't taste quite as good, is to fix the dish without meat while cooking meat in another pan. Then DD or I will take out about 2 servings without the meat then stir the meat in right before serving.
Yes, it is a bit more work but easier than making two separate meals.
Week before last I was making vegetable lasagna and I assembled a smaller dish for DD and then put shredded chicken on top of our larger pan.
DD is ok if I am using chicken broth in a dish although I do try not to use beef broth in any dish she might be eating.
Give it a try, it is really not that much extra work and Jeremy might not even notice or care if you aren't eating meat.
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Post by ecvnj58 on Aug 8, 2022 15:08:13 GMT
Me!!! I have been a vegetarian since I was 5 so I came into the relationship like this. For us if you want meat you cook it. Often my husband does just toss chicken into something.
In a typical week we eat tacos (beans for me, ground beef for him), pasta (he will heat up meatballs or shrimp) burgers, etc.
We never eat traditional protein, veg, starch dinners. That’s just not how I cook since I don’t eat replacement meats.
It works for us. And if he doesn’t feel like eating meat or cooking meat he will eat what I make as I make it.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 8, 2022 15:15:27 GMT
We have a vegetarian in our family of meat eaters. I don’t find it all that difficult to cook for her along with our family. If I’m making spaghetti, I do two pots of sauce, one with and one without meat. Grilling hamburgers, add in a portabella mushroom or impossible patty to the grill. Roast with potatoes and veggies, make extra servings of veggies and a big salad. I frequently do an extra sheet of assorted roast veggies for her to make up for the meat portion the others are eating.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 8, 2022 15:22:09 GMT
I am not a vegetarian as I eat salmon and occasionally chicken, but I don't eat 4 legged things at all and I won't cook them as it grosses me out.
My husband is very much a carnivore so if he wants 4 legged animals he cooks it himself. For meals like that he will often cook both meats but separated. I cook all the sides or other components.
For meals that are mixed together I will just cook sans meat for me and then portion out my servings and then he adds the meat he cooked.
When we go to Costco we get a rotisserie chicken and he can eat off that for a few days (lunches and dinners).and I will usually use it for one meal myself.
I like the morningstar products a lot and use them. I can't eat the other faux meat due to allergies, but I would use those if it were an option and I imagine my husband would never know when it was all cooked up with other food.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 8, 2022 15:25:14 GMT
My DD lives with a vegetarian
He respects her dietary needs & she respects his
She will have shrimp or chicken occasionally and he will keep his gluten items separate ( some meat substitutes are all gluten lol )
It takes respect & grace to each other She makes a stir fry and throws her shrimp in after or something like that.
I think it means that you both need to sit down and discuss what you need from each other when the other is tasked with making dinner.
What does he need from you, does he think a chicken breast or burger with what your eating is ok? What do you need from him? If he grilling can he grill veggies for you? ( squash grills up nicely )
Have a discussion before you switch AND at the first discussion plan a date when you will revisit how it’s going. If it a pre planned discussion then it won’t feel like a complaint or a confrontation.
I’m sure that there will be things your not thinking about now that you’ll find out later.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 8, 2022 15:29:39 GMT
I’ve been vegetarian since I was 5.
My kids have never had meat.
DH eats meat.
I cook one meal, which doesn’t contain meat. We all eat it. DH will order meat if we go out to eat or he’ll buy himself meat if he’s going to grill. He’ll eat meat at his mom’s house.
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Post by gar on Aug 8, 2022 15:35:01 GMT
Could you mix it up a bit? We eat meat, Dh loves in particular loves meat, but we stick to mainly chicken, and fish. We also eat vegetarian a couple of nights a week for the health benefits and for the planet 😊If I make his portion big enough with rice or whatever and he loves piles of veg, then he’s happy with that. You could make a list of meals that can easily be one with/one without like steak, fries and salad, pork fillet with lentils etc. and do those in between perhaps? Good luck 😊
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Post by greendragonlady on Aug 8, 2022 15:49:17 GMT
I'm a vegetarian, DH is a meat eater. We don't often eat meals together (partly because of this reason, partly because of schedules.) One of our successful meals is nachos...he will cook ground beef for himself and fake meat for me. Then the toppings are all the same.
So I guess I'm not much help, sorry!
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Post by peace on Aug 8, 2022 16:03:02 GMT
years ago I was the vegetarian and ex was meat eater. I used to just make him something meaty to go with the rest of my meal. I would eat everything but the meat and his meat was more like a side than the main dish. I would have meat-free meals as well but we regularly ate something meat free on occasion anyway. I was the main cook and I didn't mind throwing a chicken breast of pork chop on the grill back then. (I'm vegan now and my partner is also vegan. If I were to find myself single again, I would never cook meat again and it would definitely be a deal breaker.)
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 16:03:19 GMT
busy said: I think starting with more meatless meals is a good idea, but I think just throwing a chicken breast in the oven and calling it good isn't going to work out great. I think the person who's making the change needs to bear the brunt of the change, not the person who prefers to stick with how things are. Maybe some meal prep over weekends could help find a good balance while staying manageable during the week. He honestly prefers the meat/potato/vegetable style of cooking. This is how his mom does it and it is not the way I do it. I already have to adjust many recipes for his taste and I do. I think he would be absolutely fine with a chicken breast or a steak. But, where I'm more concerned is that he wouldn't eat what I'm cooking on the side of his meat. With that said, there are a lot of recipes that are relatively easy to adapt and I can do that. He is also not opposed to cooking for himself. I prefer he doesn't do that because everything he makes is super unhealthy. I worry if he cooks for himself that he will never eat a vegetable. Haha...
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 16:09:03 GMT
Thank you pantsonfire. I know from the dinner thread about your challenges. I think you gave me some good things to think about. I don't want to just leave him hanging. But at least he's got to compromise a bit too.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 16:10:46 GMT
craftedbys said: What I have learned to do, although as a meat eater it doesn't taste quite as good, is to fix the dish without meat while cooking meat in another pan. Then DD or I will take out about 2 servings without the meat then stir the meat in right before serving. This is a good tip.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 16:14:55 GMT
Skellinton said: I like the morningstar products a lot and use them. I can't eat the other faux meat due to allergies, but I would use those if it were an option and I imagine my husband would never know when it was all cooked up with other food. I want to try to avoid using meat substitutes for him, if I can.
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Post by Ryann on Aug 8, 2022 16:19:06 GMT
I've been vegetarian for over a year now, DW is not. It's just the two of us in the house. She prefers to eat homemade over takeout/convenience meals, so she is happy to eat anything I want to cook. The transition was pretty easy. I talked about doing it for a couple months before actually switching over. We went on vacation the month before, and I kind of started then, but after we got home I was "official" about it. I originally tried doing whole food plant based, but it was too much for me so I scaled back to vegetarian. So far, so good! DW is a package delivery driver and is not home for dinner most nights; I pack her a lunch and dinner every day. We typically only eat together during the weekend. Tacos, pasta/rice dishes, egg casseroles and soups are especially easy to prepare vegetarian and then throw shredded meat into. A local butcher shop sells prepared meats, so I buy from them - I don't cook meat at home (from scratch). The most I do is "reheat" it, to add to vegetarian things I've made. If your DH likes to grill, he could grill his meat of choice to have in the freezer, and then pull out as needed to supplement whatever veg dinner is made. For shared lunches we eat charcuterie board type fixings - cheese, nuts, fruit, meat (for her), pickled veg, etc. Grilled cheese sandwiches are good, too. We make them "fancy" by adding veggies (my fave is avocado and tomato or caprese style) or deli meat (for DW). Yesterday for dinner we split an avocado - she made shrimp ceviche with her half, I added mine to bean tacos. Good luck! 
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 16:22:50 GMT
hop2 said: Have a discussion before you switch AND at the first discussion plan a date when you will revisit how it’s going. If it a pre planned discussion then it won’t feel like a complaint or a confrontation. This is a good idea. I kind of wanted to just introduce some meatless meals gently if I could because he has a tendency to just knee jerk a no response instead of giving something a try. Usually if I can get him to try something, most of the time it's not near as bad as he was fearing. So a follow up discussion would be good. But I'm nervous about a preplanning discussion because I'm nervous of the knee jerk no response.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 8, 2022 16:24:16 GMT
I was a vegetarian (not vegan) for 10 years, and my husband was a meat eater. He was also the primary cook. We eat a ton of mexican and pasta and both of those are pretty easy to make vegetarian. I also had no issue with just eating the sides of a meal (rice or potatoes and veggies) when he made something more "traditional". I think it's pretty easy if you're a vegetarian that isn't making a lot of "different" meals - my midwestern husband just isn't into tofu.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Aug 8, 2022 16:25:34 GMT
This is actually a very frequent setup, jeremysgirl , at least in my generation (millennials). I know several vegans and vegetarians who live with flexitarian . It doesn't work when the vegan/vegetarian partner is a vocal activist trying to convert others to their lifestyle. Otherwise, it's all good as long as the flexitarian (or omnivore as seems to be your case) partner accepts the change and learns to pick up some thoughtful habits in the process (picking up a meat alternative you like when at the store, not throwing a tantrum over 2 different main courses at the Christmas table, no mocking, etc.). Sounds like you'll be adopting a pescatarian lifestyle so you should see how feasible it is to "link up" with your husband for those meals. Are there fish and sea food meals you both (and your budget) agree on? If his tastes lean towards fattier fish, don't try to negotiate lean fish. Going with the flow and his limited flexibility is best since you're the one changing up lifestyle and thus affecting the cooking your household is used to. I'd use these 100% compatible meals as your anchor dinners and lunches through the week, the ones that are extra special because you have more time together those days for ex. I'd try to make vegetarian versions of some meals you know he enjoys to add extra "shared" food to your fishy meal plan (goat cheese and cherry tomato quiche is usually a massive hit for vegatarians and not-very-flexi omnivores). Finally, identify all the meals he loves but you can easily skip the meat part from just so you have some extra padding for those days when you want to share without depriving him of his usual fare. Breakfast with eggs, whatever kind of potatoes you usually do, some pan-fried tomatoes and the likes where you omit the bacon/sausage would work great. He'd get to share some of his comfort food without your change in diet impacting your meal at all. That only leaves a few different meals for the both of you through the week, nothing that is dramatic or particularly difficult to handle without some meal prep. Best of luck!
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Post by circusjohnson on Aug 8, 2022 16:34:46 GMT
I'm vegan but the rest of family is not! Luckily for me my husband eats all the vegies. So I make things where he can add meat to them. He doesn't mind eating meatless meals a couple times a week. Edited to add* our biggest conflict is going out to eat. There are a couple of places we don't eat at because there is literally nothing I can eat there.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 8, 2022 16:39:05 GMT
hop2 said: Have a discussion before you switch AND at the first discussion plan a date when you will revisit how it’s going. If it a pre planned discussion then it won’t feel like a complaint or a confrontation. This is a good idea. I kind of wanted to just introduce some meatless meals gently if I could because he has a tendency to just knee jerk a no response instead of giving something a try. Usually if I can get him to try something, most of the time it's not near as bad as he was fearing. So a follow up discussion would be good. But I'm nervous about a preplanning discussion because I'm nervous of the knee jerk no response. I see that, clearly you’ll do what is right in your relationship. In her mind having a second/3rd discussion without a pre planned check in point could be seen as a ‘called to the principles office’ type thing like there’s a huge issue, when it’s really a hey could we do this or add this to our routine type thing. Sometimes an unplanned ‘we need to talk’ can be scary in a relationship. Even if it’s just about diet. Lol. Whereas we are going to check in with each other every 2-3-4 weeks to see if needs have changed or need to be tweaked felt more supportive to her. They did 2 weeks when the first moved in then monthly for a bit & now they just wrap it in with grocery planning. This made her keep her points to herself when she was aggravated and it was a calmer type discussion later. But you know your relationship better so do what works for you. Then again maybe if he thinks it’s just for 2 weeks he will give it a try. Then tell you what works & what doesn’t
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 8, 2022 16:43:18 GMT
Skellinton said: I like the morningstar products a lot and use them. I can't eat the other faux meat due to allergies, but I would use those if it were an option and I imagine my husband would never know when it was all cooked up with other food. I want to try to avoid using meat substitutes for him, if I can. That makes sense, would he eat lentil.stuff?. I use them a lot instead of ground beef.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 8, 2022 16:58:45 GMT
My brother is a carnivore (omnivore) and my SIL is vegetarian. They've been married for 25 years. They ate this way when they got together.
I think they eat out a lot.
At home, they cook both. My nephew eats meat, my niece not so much (I think there might be a couple of things she eats). They all like pasta.
I would not appreciate someone telling me what I could eat, so I would definitely find a way to accommodate both eating styles.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 8, 2022 17:07:48 GMT
He is also not opposed to cooking for himself. I prefer he doesn't do that because everything he makes is super unhealthy. It sounds more like you are trying to control what he eats. That would not go over well with me. IF you guys decide together to eat healthier, then I'd be on board, but someone trying to dictate what I eat? I'd rebel against that in a heartbeat and I'd be offended. I'd do one meatless meal a week to start. We used to like stuffed shells and I didn't put any meat in those (unfortunately, I haven't found shells that are gluten free).
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Post by huskergal on Aug 8, 2022 17:08:03 GMT
I am a pescatarian. Dh is a meat eater. My 2 daughters are also pescatarian. (Only one lives with us.) Both my sons are meat eaters. Youngest eats almost no vegetables.
When everyone was living at home, I did a lot of Mexican, Asian and pasta. Easy to have vegetarian or with meat.
My dh likes almost all the sides so it easy to make meals. He cooks the meat he wants to go with what I make. The only seafood he eats is shrimp. I like making bowls. Some kind of grain for the base. Veggies and whatever protein people want to add.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 17:15:06 GMT
My brother is a carnivore (omnivore) and my SIL is vegetarian. They've been married for 25 years. They ate this way when they got together. I think they eat out a lot. At home, they cook both. My nephew eats meat, my niece not so much (I think there might be a couple of things she eats). They all like pasta. I would not appreciate someone telling me what I could eat, so I would definitely find a way to accommodate both eating styles. Your last sentence seems...well harsh. I'm not telling him what he can eat and I don't know where that idea came from at all. I was asking for suggestions so I can accommodate his preferences and also accommodate mine.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 8, 2022 17:16:15 GMT
He is also not opposed to cooking for himself. I prefer he doesn't do that because everything he makes is super unhealthy. It sounds more like you are trying to control what he eats. That would not go over well with me. IF you guys decide together to eat healthier, then I'd be on board, but someone trying to dictate what I eat? I'd rebel against that in a heartbeat and I'd be offended. I'd do one meatless meal a week to start. We used to like stuffed shells and I didn't put any meat in those (unfortunately, I haven't found shells that are gluten free). I think you are reading way too much into my posts here.
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