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Post by smalltowngirlie on Aug 17, 2022 21:09:24 GMT
DS make comparable to what DH and I each make. We have generally done a long weekend, so 3 nights in a hotel. He pays for one night of the hotel bill. We talk about where we are staying and he has say in it. He also has to buy one meal. He gets to choose the restaurant. He can choose as cheap or as expensive as he wants. Last time we used his car, best gas mileage, so DH and I paid for the gas to balance the wear and tare on his vehicle. We also helped pay for the alternator we needed to change during vacation. DH and I will talk about where we want to go and ask DS if he wants to go with, if he does he is then part of all the planning. He knows the cost before we go. We are already talking somewhere in the Carolina's next year to experience Carolina BBQ. We want to compare it to KC BBQ.  So in short, he pays for his share, or at least a good portion of it.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 17, 2022 21:51:08 GMT
Oldest ds works full time now and has very few bills. We went to Italy in May and he paid for his airfare. He also paid for some souvenirs that he wanted. We paid for everything else. We had 2 adjoining rooms and it was nice to have the space, but we told him we may not be able to do that every trip. He said he would be happy to pay his share of an adjoining room.
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Post by paigepea on Aug 17, 2022 21:58:36 GMT
It varies with my parents.
If it’s a family celebration my parents want to pay for my family and my sister’s family. Neither me nor my sister need my parents to pay for our families. So sometimes we pay for ourselves. Dh and I plan to pay for our kids to join us on vacation for as long as we can. We have learned the most important thing is that we’re all together so whether my parents pay or we do as long as we make the plans and go and do.
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Post by hopechest on Aug 17, 2022 22:33:09 GMT
I would absolutely agree it depends on who "picked" the vacation.
We recently did a reunion and the house we rented was split equally "per family" my mom included. She volunteered to pay for a lot of the groceries as she was the only one that didn't have to also fly to get there. Everything else -rentals, activities were just paid for by whomever went.
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Post by julieb on Aug 18, 2022 2:38:05 GMT
Next year we are going to Palm Springs (for a week) with our 3 adult children, their spouses and/or signficant others. We pay for the home rental and the kids pay for their flight tickets. They will also each pay for one restaurant dinner for all.
We previously have gone to St. Johns, USVI and we did the same thing. Didn't even ask that kids' about dinners, they insisted on paying. There we all fit in one car, so we paid for that.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2022 3:23:54 GMT
We travel with our adult kids. Now everyone chips in some. While everyone can do what they think works for them, I personally don't get how/why adults feel like someone else should pay for their trips whenever they travel. I can see it if there is a large divide in money, but expecting your parents to pay for everything for every trip seems wrong. A special trip somewhere where the parents want to take the whole family? Sure, but the family should also plan on treating the parents to a nice night on their tab to show some appreciation.
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Post by SabrinaP on Aug 18, 2022 3:32:26 GMT
For us it depends. My dad travels a lot, so he often has free hotel rooms. We would then pick up airfare, food, etc. The last couple of family vacations we’ve been on, my parents rent a large AirBnB for the entire family to stay in. My mom is extra picky and makes sure everyone has space of their own. The kids then take care of groceries and meal planning for the vacation.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2022 3:46:40 GMT
For us it depends. My dad travels a lot, so he often has free hotel rooms. We would then pick up airfare, food, etc. The last couple of family vacations we’ve been on, my parents rent a large AirBnB for the entire family to stay in. My mom is extra picky and makes sure everyone has space of their own. The kids then take care of groceries and meal planning for the vacation. I love this and would especially love having the meal planning done by someone else. When we travel with our kids, one kid takes care of breakfast, one lunch and we do dinner.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 18, 2022 5:24:54 GMT
We travel with our adult kids. Now everyone chips in some. While everyone can do what they think works for them, I personally don't get how/why adults feel like someone else should pay for their trips whenever they travel. I can see it if there is a large divide in money, but expecting your parents to pay for everything for every trip seems wrong. A special trip somewhere where the parents want to take the whole family? Sure, but the family should also plan on treating the parents to a nice night on their tab to show some appreciation. I don't think that all family dynamics are as healthy as that post assumes, and in many families, unfortunately, the "family vacation" is more of a parental demand than a group decision. I do think that if the parents pick the trip and then demand everyone show up (which is unfortunately the way these trips go in a lot of families I know), it is then not unreasonable to expect the parents to pay. That is why I said upthread there are a lot of variables.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 18, 2022 11:31:43 GMT
We travel with our adult kids. Now everyone chips in some. While everyone can do what they think works for them, I personally don't get how/why adults feel like someone else should pay for their trips whenever they travel. I can see it if there is a large divide in money, but expecting your parents to pay for everything for every trip seems wrong. A special trip somewhere where the parents want to take the whole family? Sure, but the family should also plan on treating the parents to a nice night on their tab to show some appreciation. It has nothing to do with expecting and everything to do with going along with what my parents want…they are still top dogs in our family. 😆. I go in with the expectation of paying but know that they will probably pay for a lot of it. It gives them pleasure, I think, to be able to do this for their kids. 🤷🏻♀️ All families are different. It is the same when I go out to lunch or dinner with them. I try to pay or at least leave the tip but they prefer to pay. Their response is always until they are unable to or don’t want to it is their choice. Who am I to argue…and the big joke is just that I am getting some of my inheritance early. 😄. I certainly show my appreciation to my parents all the time, I know that I am lucky and I don’t take that lightly. I would certainly not judge how any family navigates these types of things as every family is different…this is just how our family works.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Aug 18, 2022 15:16:42 GMT
If we plan a family trip, we pay for it. All of it. Our children stand to inherit a sizable estate, but I’m doing my best to spend it on them while I can enjoy watching them enjoy their bounty.
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Post by Bobomommy on Aug 18, 2022 15:42:47 GMT
I am the oldest of three children. Once we graduated and had a full-time job we were expected to share the expense of lodging. We paid for our own transportation to/from. Everyone paid their own tab for meals.
My children are 25, 27, and 29. Their dad died when they were 14, 16, and 18. I cannot afford to pay for everything when we travel, so they pay their part. The exception is if we are camping. I pay for the campsite and most of the groceries. They pay their own tab if we go out for a meal and bring some of the groceries, usually chips, sodas, or bread.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 18, 2022 15:54:20 GMT
I think the financial situations play in to things as well. My parents would have never been able to afford to go on vacation, let alone pay for their grown children. I paid for my parents to go to Hawaii to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. When my dad died, I made sure to include my mom on a couple of our trips so she wasn't sitting home alone in the beginning. We paid for her to go on a Disney cruise and paid for her to go with us to Disney World.
As someone else said, family dynamics play into things. I can't imagine a parent forcing their adult child to go on vacation to a place they didn't want to go. I would just say no thanks and plan my own trip.
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Post by huskergal on Aug 18, 2022 16:55:08 GMT
The adult children pay part of housing, their flight, and help with food. If we drive, we do not make them pay for gas. We also cover cost of a rental vehicle. Neither dh or I ever went on vacations with our parents at any point. Neither had the means and we both come from large families.
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Post by bethany102399 on Aug 18, 2022 18:22:09 GMT
We are already talking somewhere in the Carolina's next year to experience Carolina BBQ. We want to compare it to KC BBQ.  DH's parents like to vacation in South Carolina, so I have some experience with this. To me, it's its own beast. A little sweeter, but still ketchup based. While I know there are mustard based sauces out there, I don't often try them. Like KC the best places are the hole in the wall smoked for hours bbq joints with a line out the door at noon and sold out signs by 2pm. Any day is a good day for some BBQ. OP, as others have said it just depends. We've had trips where we wanted our own space so we paid for our own condo. We've also had trips where we've stayed with the In-laws in their home. There was a long time where we couldn't afford to travel period and if it was "demanded" that we show up then we let it be known unless it was paid for it was a no go for us. In turn that meant some tight accommodations with siblings as we had no skin in the game and therefore no room to ask for something better. This past trip to Charleston we were able to pay for our own space and cook a meal for the group. it was wonderful to be able to do both and not be panicked about the money.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2022 20:33:56 GMT
We travel with our adult kids. Now everyone chips in some. While everyone can do what they think works for them, I personally don't get how/why adults feel like someone else should pay for their trips whenever they travel. I can see it if there is a large divide in money, but expecting your parents to pay for everything for every trip seems wrong. A special trip somewhere where the parents want to take the whole family? Sure, but the family should also plan on treating the parents to a nice night on their tab to show some appreciation. It has nothing to do with expecting and everything to do with going along with what my parents want…they are still top dogs in our family. 😆. I go in with the expectation of paying but know that they will probably pay for a lot of it. It gives them pleasure, I think, to be able to do this for their kids. 🤷🏻♀️ All families are different. It is the same when I go out to lunch or dinner with them. I try to pay or at least leave the tip but they prefer to pay. Their response is always until they are unable to or don’t want to it is their choice. Who am I to argue…and the big joke is just that I am getting some of my inheritance early. 😄. I certainly show my appreciation to my parents all the time, I know that I am lucky and I don’t take that lightly. I would certainly not judge how any family navigates these types of things as every family is different…this is just how our family works. I don't think most people do expect it from their parents, but some do. My kids always joke that they are getting their inheritance early. My point was every trip every item paid. I think most adults aren't cool with that and pay something or try to pay something (even if the parents say no). My point was how/why adults feel they are owed this. You certainly don't sound like you feel you are owed this.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 18, 2022 20:38:15 GMT
We travel with our adult kids. Now everyone chips in some. While everyone can do what they think works for them, I personally don't get how/why adults feel like someone else should pay for their trips whenever they travel. I can see it if there is a large divide in money, but expecting your parents to pay for everything for every trip seems wrong. A special trip somewhere where the parents want to take the whole family? Sure, but the family should also plan on treating the parents to a nice night on their tab to show some appreciation. I don't think that all family dynamics are as healthy as that post assumes, and in many families, unfortunately, the "family vacation" is more of a parental demand than a group decision. I do think that if the parents pick the trip and then demand everyone show up (which is unfortunately the way these trips go in a lot of families I know), it is then not unreasonable to expect the parents to pay. That is why I said upthread there are a lot of variables. True, there are lots of variables. We've never accepted a "family vacation" that was a parental demand. I was expected to go on an all ladies "family cruise" one year and noped out of that. We vacation with our kids quite a lot, so paying for everything all of the time wouldn't be reasonable. We did pay up until a few years ago though.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 18, 2022 21:53:22 GMT
I am the adult child and when we do family vacations (rare, but we've done a couple), we typically fight over who will pay because we both/all want to!
When we did our big Europe trip, we all paid for our own flights/hotels and then fought over who would pick up the tab for everything else. 🤣
This is probably unhelpful, but if your children have means, they should probably start carrying their own weight (unless you got big money and you WANT to pay their way and have made that clear). If you're not comfortable with that, it's time for a conversation about expectations.
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Post by hookedonpeas on Aug 19, 2022 2:58:08 GMT
I’m the adult child, but my mom and I vacation every year together, we split the bill 50/50 and each pay for our own meals. I would never consider or expect my mom to cover me.
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Post by vexedangel on Aug 19, 2022 3:32:04 GMT
My parents took me and my husband on a trip out west right before we finally got pregnant (Mom always said the vacation relaxed us enough that we were finally able to conceive because...it was on the trip or right after. LOL). We were fresh out of grad school, bought a house, and saving up for invitro. They paid for everything except our meals.
Fast forward 10+ years. 2 kids, better paying jobs, less student loans, no invitro, but college and retirement. Mom invited us to go on the same trip. We declined as we were saving for Disney. Plus--she said they wouldn't pay for anything this time. And we've already been on this trip (it's a bus tour). Yes, it will be different with kids, and they will enjoy it...but also more expensive with them. And it felt like...they were choosing for us how we should spend $5K. Nah, we decided to pass. She offered again this year and said they would pay for packages, we would just pay for meals. So we agreed.
Maybe we should pay for more, but as she likes to remind me, I'm an only child, so it's my inheritance either way. I don't think there's any easy answer. I figure we'll pick up what meals of theirs that we can.
ETA: I should also say we've invited them on our trips, but they refuse to do anything that's not a bus tour package. And that is not our thing. Also, neither of us travel a lot. They literally haven't been anywhere since the last bus tour out west, and we go on a trip every 3 years or so.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Aug 19, 2022 17:00:36 GMT
We are kind of in between. Our kids are 20 and 18. Both have long term significant others. We just went to the beach in July with dd (18) and her bf (20). We paid for most everything. A few things they got themselves but mostly paid by us. If ds (20) had been there, we would have paid for him too.
Next year, we are hoping to be able to do a vaca with all 6 of us. We will plan on paying for most things again. I would like to do that as long as possible, that we can afford it. As they both get further in their careers and adult lives, we may reevaluate and see how best to split things but until then, we pay.
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Post by finaledition on Aug 19, 2022 19:04:12 GMT
Trips have always been our family's bonding/reconnecting time. My kids played lots of sports, my dh traveled for work-the nightly meal as a family just never worked for our lifestyle. So the vacation was always really important and has been for years. We now have 2 young working adults and one who is 14. He doesn't get to see them often so we've been continuing to invite the older two on some of our trips so they can enjoy that sibling time together. Financially we are in a position that we will continue to pay to foster this time together. My husband is not particularly close to his siblings and he rarely traveled with his parents. He's determined to do things differently even if we have to "bribe" them with with a paid trip. So far no one is complaining :-). I do think that once we are empty nesters and they start having families we will need to be more creative. Perhaps meeting up/paying for the first half and then turning them loose so they can travel/vacation that suits them best.
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