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Post by Skellinton on Sept 5, 2022 16:39:50 GMT
I'm not sure it's worth responding to your post. You'll probably just disappear and then reappear with a new identity. But, I'll try. I'm not sure where to start - there are so many falsehoods and Republican spin. Here are some actual facts. Let's start with weaponizing the IRS. No one is weaponizing the IRS. The plan is a 10 year plan, the IRS will be hiring new people, in part to replace ones lost to attrition. The agency anticipates losing 50,000 in the next 5 years, so it's only a net gain of 37,000. Many of those will be customer service agents, answering phones. Unless you're earning over $400,000 and dodging taxes, there's nothing for people to worry about. www.snopes.com/fact-check/irs-87000-new-agents/www.factcheck.org/2022/08/irs-will-target-high-income-tax-evaders-with-new-funding-contrary-to-social-media-posts/www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/aug/23/tom-cotton/tom-cotton-misleads-how-inflation-reduction-act-wi/Have you seen this picture of the cafeteria at the IRS in Austin? Tables filled with paper returns. This is why the IRS needs an infusion of cash, to update decades old technology. Remember the green computer interface from the 1970s and 1980s? One step of processing returns still uses that. It runs on an ancient programming language that few coders know. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2022/irs-pipeline-tax-return-delays/It’s part of what the IRS calls the “Pipeline”: a 1970s-era assembly line used to process tax returns at several locations around the country. And it might give you a sense of why Congress is on the verge of handing the agency $80 billion through the Inflation Reduction Act — not only for more enforcement but also for tech modernization. As of July 29, the IRS had a backlog of 10.2 million unprocessed individual returns. Blame the pandemic, sure, but also the agency’s embarrassingly outdated, paper-based system, which leaves stacks and stacks of returns cluttering shelves, hallways and even the cafeteria. On the Pipeline, paper tax returns aren’t scanned into computers; instead, IRS employees manually keystroke the numbers from each document into the system, digit by digit.Here's what the commissioner (appointed by Trump) said www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-statement-by-irs-commissioner-chuck-rettig-on-the-inflation-reduction-actAugust 16, 2022
The signing of the historic reconciliation package marks a transformational moment for our agency – and an opportunity for the future of tax administration. The IRS has struggled for many years with insufficient resources to fulfill our important mission. During the next 10 years, these funds will help us in many areas, including adding critical resources to not just close the tax gap but meaningfully improve taxpayer service and technology. This will allow the IRS to provide services to taxpayers in the manner they expect and deserve. The act also includes a wide range of tax law changes that we will have to implement very quickly.
Given the scope of the bill, keep in mind these changes will not be immediate. It's a 10-year plan, and it will take time to put these provisions into place. More details will be available in coming months.
We have a lot of hard work in front of us to deliver on the high expectations this historic funding will provide. But I have great confidence IRS employees are up to the task – and will deliver for Americans as they have countless times before in the history of our agency.
First, it wasn't my decision to give up my previous login. Second, I'm not talking about what's currently happening with the IRS. After weaponizing the IRS against citizens, Lois Lerner pled the fifth. Why did you give up your previous log in then? If you were not pixiechick who are you?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 18:01:41 GMT
Biden did use the word fascist. Putting semi in front doesn't mean he didn't. He also meant to include people that voted for or supported Trump. He referenced Trumpism, ideology and supporters. Even left wing media said he called supporters semi-fascist. PBS CBS to name just 2. Trump did not do that. No. Did you see the direct quote from him? President Biden said the word semi-fascism. The media's interpretation is kind of irrelevant. At the fundraiser in Maryland, he said semi-fascism. PBS has a clip, you can listen for yourself. Even Kevin McCarthy correctly quoted Biden and asked him to apologize for using the words semi-fascism www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-biden-calls-for-democrats-to-vote-in-midterm-elections-slams-semi-fascism-in-gopROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) — President Joe Biden called on Democrats Thursday “to vote to literally save democracy once again” in the midterm elections — and compared Republican ideology to “semi-fascism” — as he led a kickoff rally and a fundraiser in Maryland.www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/biden-blasts-maga-philosophy-semi-fascism-rcna44953"What we’re seeing now is the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy. It’s not just Trump, it’s the entire philosophy that underpins the — I’m going to say something, it’s like semi-fascism," Biden said at the donor event.
www.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/kevin-mccarthy-speech-biden/index.htmlMcCarthy calls on Biden to apologize after 'semi-fascism' remark Just wanted to repeat that Biden said the words "semi-fascism". Again, he was describing a philosophy. And this opinion, I think, gets at the heart of why conservatives lost their minds over this. Some Republicans compared Biden to Hitler and called him a raving lunatic. Republicans are angry because Biden was telling the truth and they're afraid their party will lose power because of their embrace of Trump and MAGA Republicans. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/05/biden-speech-gop-reaction-hysteria/The GOP reaction to Biden’s speech has been so hysterical, one suspects, precisely because Republicans fear that his strategy — of turning “MAGA” into a toxic brand — might succeed.www.politico.com/news/2022/08/25/biden-trump-philosophy-semi-fascism-00053831Biden calls Trump's philosophy 'semi-fascism'
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 5, 2022 18:19:32 GMT
The only change I would make is put “rude” in front of idiot.
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Post by Merge on Sept 5, 2022 18:22:39 GMT
The only change I would make is put “rude” in front of idiot. RWNs now, probably: OMG! Biden called us fascists and now he's calling us idiots!
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Post by Merge on Sept 5, 2022 18:33:37 GMT
IDK why anyone is arguing about what Biden said or what Trump said. The primary difference between the two is that Biden was telling the truth. GOP politicians are semi-fascist at this point, and their supporters are supporting semi-fascist ideologies. Let's stop pussyfooting around this.
The high road ain't working for us. Biden said what is true and what needed to be said, and I'm glad he did. I would like to hear more on the left call out these dangerous people for what they are, particularly in defense of all the innocent people who have been targeted with harassment and violence after being called pedophiles and groomers on forums like 8chan, LibsofTikTok, and Kiwi Farms. They need to be called out and shut down, not listened to and reasoned with. They're beyond reason.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 5, 2022 18:36:55 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 19:14:17 GMT
I may have missed it, but I really like this young Democrat from Florida. He seems like the future of the party and gives me hope. I like his experience advocating for gun violence prevention and working for the ACLU to raise minimum wages and restore voting rights to felons. I love his bumper sticker - be the person your dog thinks you are. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/03/maxwell-frost-congress-generation/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 5, 2022 19:34:37 GMT
Yes, Maxwell Frost, great young man. Was with March For Our Lives....
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 5, 2022 19:54:43 GMT
dumpster don is still whining about Hunter Biden’s laptop. He’s claiming if the FBI had announced they were investigating Hunter Biden before the election he would have won and by a lot. I’m not so sure about that since a lot of people just wanted trump gone.
But he has a point. Look what happened when James Comey released the letter about nothing in 2016 just 11 days before the election. Until that time Hillary had a comfortable lead in the polls. Once that letter came out her poll numbers tanked. People were already voting. That letter could have made some voters to vote third party or not even vote at all. Her poll numbers started to climb a day or two after the release of that letter but it was too late. The damage was done. And if it hadn’t been for that letter she would have won. Remember she only lost by 77,000 spread between three states.
So now he’s claiming they should change the results of the election because the FBI didn’t let it be known they were investigating Hunter Biden and if the voters knew they would have voted for him instead of Joe Biden. . By the same token the FBI should never have released that letter when they did because it did have an affect of the 2016 election outcome. That being the case, they should change the results of the 2016 election as well which means dumpster don should not have been president.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 5, 2022 19:59:04 GMT
How funny. The video shows a dog and seal going after the same ball in the ocean…
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 0:42:35 GMT
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 6, 2022 4:32:51 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 13:28:32 GMT
Here’s Jim Jordan telling a joke….
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 15:19:27 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 15:20:27 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 15:26:12 GMT
Wow…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 6, 2022 15:52:12 GMT
Surely WOW to removal of Couy Griffin!!!
He will likely appeal. Maybe former will fund him...
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 6, 2022 15:53:37 GMT
GOOD. I hope more of those treasonous losers get kicked out!
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 16:40:48 GMT
From The Washington Post….
“Opinion A longtime conservative insider warns: The GOP can’t be saved”
By Greg Sargent Columnist
“With the midterm elections hurtling into their final stretch, a group of Never Trumpers is pumping millions of dollars into ads aimed at defeating Republican candidates aligned with Donald Trump and his lies about the 2020 election.
At the core of this effort is a big question: Can Trump’s continued domination of the news cycle, and the intensifying revelations about his lawlessness, alienate a small but meaningful enough fraction of GOP-leaning voters to affect the outcome?
The Republican Accountability Project, which is chaired by Never Trumper and conservative movement veteran Bill Kristol, is betting that it’s possible. A PAC linked to the group is spending money to try to defeat more than a dozen of the Trumpiest GOP candidates, such as big-lie-supporting Doug Mastriano and Kari Lake, who are running for governor in Pennsylvania and Arizona.
The group’s ads highlight ongoing revelations about Trump’s effort to overthrow our constitutional order, culminating in the violence of Jan. 6, 2021. And the stunning disclosures about Trump’s hoarding of state secrets have made his lawlessness even more
I reached out to Kristol — who has been a fixture in the elite conservative and neoconservative establishments for decades — to discuss his group’s efforts, the future of the GOP, and the true nature of Never Trumpism. An edited and condensed version of our exchanges follows.
Greg Sargent: The fundamental premise of your efforts is that a percentage of Republican and GOP-leaning independent voters can in fact be peeled away from supporting GOP candidates, yes? How big is that percentage? Can they be induced to vote for Democratic candidates?
Bill Kristol: We’ve always thought the percentage is 3 percent, 5 percent, something like that. Peeling away 5 percent of Republican voters to stay home, or better, vote against a Trumpy election denier — that seems doable. It seems consistent with the polling and the 2020 results.
Sargent: What do you say to these voters about candidates like Doug Mastriano or Kari Lake?
Kristol: A lot of what we do is simply publicize what they say. Convey the extremism of MAGA Republicans — and therefore the extremism of the Republican Party.
Sargent: The underlying principle here seems to be that Republican voters alienated by the MAGA takeover of the GOP should be willing to ally with Democrats, even if only temporarily.
Kristol: Correct.
Sargent: So let’s talk about the future of Never Trumpism. Let’s say Florida governor Ron DeSantis becomes the Republican presidential nominee in 2024. Are you guys going to urge the GOP voters you’re targeting to vote instead for, say, Joe Biden?
Kristol: I certainly would. I don’t want to speak for the whole organization. But yes. Trump himself departing the scene by no means guarantees the de-Trumpification of the Republican Party.
If that happens more quickly than you and I think, and it’s Glenn Youngkin, not Ron DeSantis, and if Glenn Youngkin turns out not to be the Glenn Youngkin who pandered to all these people in 2021, and is a semi-responsible Republican, that’s a different story.
I personally have enough problems with the Republican Party having gone along with Trump — and I suppose I’ve done enough rethinking of some conservative dogmas — that I myself am unlikely to be returning to the Republican fold anytime soon.
The fact is, I have not voted for a Republican since Trump became president.
Sargent: Joshua Tait, a historian of conservatism, has argued that the seeds of today’s GOP abandonment of democracy are embedded in conservatism itself. Going back decades, conservative theorists insisted rule by national majorities should be viewed with suspicion, or even adopted a version of slavery booster John Calhoun’s case for minority rule.
Does this play some role in leading to Trumpism’s wholesale declaration that when majorities oppose his movement, the outcome is inherently illegitimate? Do you see conservatism as in some sense as containing the seeds of this?
Kristol: In some sense, with the big caveat that all political movements have their seamy undersides.
It is fair to say that conservatism had aspects that were distasteful — and even somewhat dangerous. It is probably fair to say that some of us didn’t do enough to fight those aspects. But it’s also fair to say that at the end of the day, it was a very different party when it was nominating George W. Bush or John McCain or Mitt Romney than it is today.
Sargent: That brings me to another question. You could argue that neoconservatism, especially as manifested in the Iraq War and war on terror, helped paved the road to Trumpism. It unleashed a virulent form of Islamophobia while feeding an anti-elite backlash.
Kristol: There’s no question that the failure of Iraq — whatever the causes — laid a little bit of groundwork for Trump’s assault in 2015 and 2016. But the devastating financial crisis did much more damage. Whatever people’s judgments on Iraq, it’s the financial crisis that really damaged faith in elites. But if you step back and say more broadly, are there aspects of American conservatism that need to be rethought in light of Trumpism, the answer is clearly yes. It would be foolish to watch Trump take over the Republican Party — to watch so many conservative elites rationalize and acquiesce and enable Trump — and then say, “Conservatism is totally healthy.” You can’t say that with a straight face.
Sargent: People often come back to Sarah Palin — obviously you had some role in her rise. It’s fair to ask whether Palin put on the table a bunch of pathologies that lead right down to Trumpism.
Kristol: I regret whatever minor role I had in promoting Palin. I don’t know how much influence she had. It’s hard to believe she had as much effect as the tea party.
Having said that, it was a mistake. I think John McCain thought it was a mistake later in his life.
I don’t want to defend myself too much, but I would say this: I sensed a populism out there dissatisfied with the establishment — including the Republican establishment. I thought someone like Palin could be a way of incorporating a certain amount of populism, frankly in a kind of harmless way. She was not anti-immigration. She was not anti-trade. She was not anti-globalism. I thought if you could attach a kind of populism to McCain Republicanism, that would be a success. But it turned out not to work.
Sargent: It’s interesting that you bring up the dissatisfaction with Republican elites. One could connect that to what you said earlier about the financial crisis’ role in making the ground fertile for Trumpism. The Republican Party really did embrace a pro-plutocracy politics for a very long time that laid the groundwork for a lot of this.
Kristol: The party was more oligarchic than I realized. One always knew the Republican Party was the party of business and therefore of the wealthy. Having said that, the degree of plutocracy, oligarchy — whatever the right word is — the degree of that was greater than I realized at the time. I think I underestimated that.
There was also the intellectual exhaustion. I thought that was a problem. People like me were alarmed by this. That was the whole point of the reformicons. But that turned out to be even truer than I realized at the time — the degree to which people had just not rethought anything since the 1980s or the 1990s.
Sargent: We’re now stuck with a double whammy from the Republican Party. They’re still oligarchic, despite the populist feints of a few senators. And they’re sliding into full authoritarianism. Taking those two things together, it really seems like the Republican Party can’t be redeemed by the standards that you have set for it.
Kristol: I think that’s right. One can imagine an alternate history in which the conservative movement realized it was kind of exhausted; it had a good run. You can imagine a healthy if somewhat turbulent rethinking.
I thought that might happen. Instead, the Republican Party went the other way. We’ve seen it in history before: Economic elites deciding to pursue their self interest, very narrowly understood, combined with the populist exploitation and intensification of grievances and anxieties, and frankly bigotries and prejudices. You can’t overestimate how much damage the capitulation of conservative and Republican elites has done. Trump by himself succeeding was bad. The Republican Party going along with Trump — and the conservative establishment legitimating and rationalizing and enabling Trump — created the very dangerous situation we’re now in.
Sargent: It sounds like you don’t think the Republican Party can be saved.
Kristol: At least not in the short term. And if we don’t have two reasonably healthy parties, the unhealthy party has to be defeated.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 6, 2022 16:58:20 GMT
Uh oh... FOX is getting deeper in doodoo.. A newly unearthed email shows that an unidentified Fox News producer frantically tried to get the network to keep host Jeanine Pirro off the air for pushing false claims about Dominion Voting Systems stealing the 2020 election for President Joe Biden.NPR , which obtained a copy of the email and verified its authenticity with two sources, reports that the "anguished" email was sent by an unnamed Fox News producer in November 2020, and it objected to Pirro pushing claims that Dominion's voting machines supposedly "flipped" votes from Trump to Biden. "The producer warned: Fox cannot let host Jeanine Pirro back on the air," writes NPR. "She is pulling conspiracy theories from dark corners of the Web to justify then-President Donald Trump's lies that the election had been stolen from him." *** In fact, NPR notes that the email is now being used by Dominion's attorneys as proof that Fox News acted with malice by allowing its hosts to stay on the air to push baseless conspiracy theories about its voting machines. www.rawstory.com/jeanine-pirro-fox-news-2658150477/
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Post by casii on Sept 6, 2022 17:14:07 GMT
Uh oh... FOX is getting deeper in doodoo.. A newly unearthed email shows that an unidentified Fox News producer frantically tried to get the network to keep host Jeanine Pirro off the air for pushing false claims about Dominion Voting Systems stealing the 2020 election for President Joe Biden.NPR , which obtained a copy of the email and verified its authenticity with two sources, reports that the "anguished" email was sent by an unnamed Fox News producer in November 2020, and it objected to Pirro pushing claims that Dominion's voting machines supposedly "flipped" votes from Trump to Biden. "The producer warned: Fox cannot let host Jeanine Pirro back on the air," writes NPR. "She is pulling conspiracy theories from dark corners of the Web to justify then-President Donald Trump's lies that the election had been stolen from him." *** In fact, NPR notes that the email is now being used by Dominion's attorneys as proof that Fox News acted with malice by allowing its hosts to stay on the air to push baseless conspiracy theories about its voting machines. www.rawstory.com/jeanine-pirro-fox-news-2658150477/We can only hope they reap some consequences of their actions. As it is, they're not an official news outlet, so their fallback defense is whatever is said on the air is for entertainment purposes only so why would anyone take them literally?
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 6, 2022 17:17:23 GMT
Uh oh... FOX is getting deeper in doodoo.. A newly unearthed email shows that an unidentified Fox News producer frantically tried to get the network to keep host Jeanine Pirro off the air for pushing false claims about Dominion Voting Systems stealing the 2020 election for President Joe Biden.NPR , which obtained a copy of the email and verified its authenticity with two sources, reports that the "anguished" email was sent by an unnamed Fox News producer in November 2020, and it objected to Pirro pushing claims that Dominion's voting machines supposedly "flipped" votes from Trump to Biden. "The producer warned: Fox cannot let host Jeanine Pirro back on the air," writes NPR. "She is pulling conspiracy theories from dark corners of the Web to justify then-President Donald Trump's lies that the election had been stolen from him." *** In fact, NPR notes that the email is now being used by Dominion's attorneys as proof that Fox News acted with malice by allowing its hosts to stay on the air to push baseless conspiracy theories about its voting machines. www.rawstory.com/jeanine-pirro-fox-news-2658150477/We can only hope they reap some consequences of their actions. As it is, they're not an official news outlet, so their fallback defense is whatever is said on the air is for entertainment purposes only so why would anyone take them literally? I don’t understand how they can use that argument but still keep news in their name.
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casii
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Post by casii on Sept 6, 2022 17:34:31 GMT
We can only hope they reap some consequences of their actions. As it is, they're not an official news outlet, so their fallback defense is whatever is said on the air is for entertainment purposes only so why would anyone take them literally? I don’t understand how they can use that argument but still keep news in their name. I would agree, but it's their stock in trade defense. I think Hannity and Carlson have used it as a defense as well. Or I should say, they like to twist their words to suit their purposes. No one takes Carlson seriously and the judge agreed.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 6, 2022 17:46:32 GMT
casii except millions do take Carlson seriously...
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casii
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Post by casii on Sept 6, 2022 17:59:39 GMT
casii except millions do take Carlson seriously... You know that and I know that and even Fox knows that, but as long as they're allowed to claim otherwise, I worry that suits like Dominion's will not prevail against Fox. I think where those Fox personalities could be held accountable is with their behind the scenes involvement with Trump. The texts we've seen that were passed back and forth on J6 between Trump family or staffers & Fox players. There have to be more that happened and we haven't seen them. Can't excuse those as "just for funsies".
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 18:24:05 GMT
She’s good and good response about the border.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 18:26:04 GMT
He’s right…
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 20:31:30 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 6, 2022 20:38:48 GMT
Keep in mind that Putin had no reason to invade Ukraine. This in my opinion is a war crime.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 6, 2022 20:43:00 GMT
Speaking of Twitter... What has happened to the former's mouth piece, Liz what's her name, who posted his stuff on Twitter?
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