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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 2, 2022 20:45:23 GMT
Biden answers Peter Doocy.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 2, 2022 22:12:42 GMT
Funny, satirical opinion on the non-polarizing speech Biden should have given www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/02/democracy-speech-biden-should-have-given/
So I say to everyone, to the people working to get out the vote and the people working to undermine the entire concept of voting, good work! We have had a democracy for a while, which I personally would like to keep, but some people seem to want us to try something new, and that could be ... fine! Maybe 235 years is a good stopping point.
I was going to criticize the people who are trying to thwart the will of the voters and who, earlier, wanted to stop the peaceful transfer of power, but then I thought, that would be needlessly divisive. Probably they are some very fine people! Indeed, I might go so far as to say, “I love you, and you’re very special!”More at the link. If you would like to see it, but can't because of a paywall, LMK and I can post a link to a gift article without the paywall |
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Post by dawnnikol on Sept 2, 2022 22:43:32 GMT
He uses some language, so don't watch if you get offended by that. Calling MAGAts and other Republicans crying foul today:
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 2, 2022 23:03:59 GMT
Amazing how much the Republicans forget when it suits them….
Here is dumpster don very clearly, let’s face sometimes it’s hard to understand what he is saying, calling the Democrats Fascist.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 2, 2022 23:15:12 GMT
Poor Bannon, no help from the judge!! Trump-appointed judge slams Steve Bannon's request for new contempt of Congress trialMatthew Chapman September 02, 2022 On Friday, CNN has reported that a federal judge has rejected Donald Trump ally Steve Bannon's request for a new trial, after he was convicted on two counts of contempt of Congress. The order, issued by District Judge Carl Nichols — a judge appointed by Trump himself — comes as Bannon seeks to evade accountability for repeatedly refusing to respond to subpoenas from the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. www.rawstory.com/bannon-contempt-2658114879/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 0:26:49 GMT
I wonder how many more trump officials have stuff they haven’t turned over to the National Archive
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 3, 2022 3:48:26 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2022 5:49:13 GMT
Meidas Touch... Sorry, Mr Kemp..
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 16:44:29 GMT
To quote Melania “I really don’t care do you?”
Headline from The Insider ….
“Melania Trump felt violated by FBI agents 'contaminating' her bedroom during Mar-a-Lago raid, report says”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2022 16:56:11 GMT
I wonder how many more trump officials have stuff they haven’t turned over to the National Archive The State Department vault was almost emptied of gift items, both for giving during diplomatic occasions and those received by our diplomats including very valuable items. A vintage bottle of Saki(?) received by Pompeo.. there goes the West Point honor code.. surely the Army is proud of him and Flynn. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 17:25:05 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 17:59:13 GMT
Let’s see, part of the country is facing record high temperatures and part of the county is experiencing destructive floods. And this bimbo is ok with that because it’s more important to here the sound of a motorcycle or a muscle car’s engine then to take steps to stop the affects of climate change.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 18:03:20 GMT
Keep in mind this bimbo is a member of Congress and as such the security of this country should be important to members of Congress. One would think.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 18:35:40 GMT
The bimbo gets more outrageous every time she opens her mouth. Keeping in mind she was elected to office once again proves my belief about voters.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2022 19:22:27 GMT
No, absolutely a big lie!!
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 3, 2022 19:36:39 GMT
The bimbo gets more outrageous every time she opens her mouth. Keeping in mind she was elected to office once again proves my belief about voters. Greene was elected by voters but won with the help of extreme gerrymandering, voter suppression, right wing media & social media bubbles. Also, she has support from other Republicans politicians like Kevin McCarthy and they refuse to call out her nonsense or censor her. There have been no consequences for her ridiculous statements except losing committee memberships (which McCarthy promised to re-instate if they gain control of the House) She also had a lot of other advantages - good timing, money and a deep red, Christian evangelical district. She initially campaigned for a different district in Georgia and would have had an uphill battle to get elected. Then a Republican representative from the 14th district announced he would not seek election. She moved her campaign but by the time other Republicans joined, she had a 3 week head start and momentum. She funded nearly a million dollars to her campaign, almost 1/3 of what she spent. Trump won her district in 2016 with 75% of the vote. Anyone with an R after their name and loyalty to Trump could win in a district like that. For all of these reasons, regrettably she will most likely win re-election. The legal battle to disqualify her has been unsuccessful so far www.courthousenews.com/fight-over-marjorie-taylor-greene-reelection-bid-lands-in-11th-circuit/fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-someone-like-marjorie-taylor-greene-could-win-again/And that speaks to the fact that the confrontational style employed by Trump and embraced by Greene and Boebert has broad appeal among Republicans all over the country, who have become more extreme and less inclined to support political compromise.
It can be easy to write off someone like Greene as an anomaly. But once upon a time, it was easy to write off Trump as one, too. The conditions are ripe across the country for extreme candidates to get elected. And Greene helped write the playbook. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 20:40:33 GMT
The bimbo gets more outrageous every time she opens her mouth. Keeping in mind she was elected to office once again proves my belief about voters. Greene was elected by voters but won with the help of extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression. Also, she has support from other Republicans politicians like Kevin McCarthy and they refuse to call out her nonsense or censor her. There have been no consequences for her ridiculous statements except losing committee memberships (which McCarthy promised to re-instate if they gain control of the House) She also had a lot of other advantages - good timing, money and a deep red, Christian evangelical district. She initially campaigned for a different district in Georgia and would have had an uphill battle to get elected. Then a Republican representative from the 14th district announced he would not seek election. She moved her campaign but by the time other Republicans joined, she had a 3 week head start and momentum. She funded nearly a million dollars to her campaign, almost 1/3 of what she spent. Trump won her district in 2016 with 75% of the vote. Anyone with an R after their name and loyalty to Trump could win in a district like that. fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-someone-like-marjorie-taylor-greene-could-win-again/“ free will
/ˌfrē ˈwil/
noun
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”With all due respect you seem have a hard time grasping the term “free will” so I dug up a definition for you. Once again, regardless of the gerrymandering or voter suppression, enough individuals, of their own free will, make the choice to vote for these wackos. Nobody has a gun to their head when they vote for these wackos. They themselves make that choice. And enough of these voters, who voted for these wackos of their own free will, manage to elect them to office. What does that say about them as individuals? I can’t decide if these individuals who vote for these wackos, with their own free will, are wackos in their own right or they think it’s funny to send someone like her and the other wackos to Congress. And yes, in some districts or states the Republicans outnumber the Democrats. But again, no one is forcing the Republicans that dominate a district or a state to vote for these wackos. They chose to do it. Let me be a smartass and repeat it “They chose to do it”. Of let me put it this way, if person who usually votes Republican in a heavily red district wanted to, they could vote for a Democrat or third party instead of voting for the wackos. If enough did it then maybe we would not have these walking embarrassments in Congress. It all boils down to choice based on an individual’s free will. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2022 20:43:11 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 20:53:59 GMT
I wonder if they will get any money.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 20:59:27 GMT
How did they set them up? They chose to do what they did, including the violent part. No one forced them.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2022 21:02:44 GMT
One should look at her smug face after she declares dumpster don won the 2020 election. It’s like she knows he didn’t win but using it to gin up those at the rally who for some reason think that he did.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 3, 2022 21:53:30 GMT
Greene was elected by voters but won with the help of extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression. Also, she has support from other Republicans politicians like Kevin McCarthy and they refuse to call out her nonsense or censor her. There have been no consequences for her ridiculous statements except losing committee memberships (which McCarthy promised to re-instate if they gain control of the House) She also had a lot of other advantages - good timing, money and a deep red, Christian evangelical district. She initially campaigned for a different district in Georgia and would have had an uphill battle to get elected. Then a Republican representative from the 14th district announced he would not seek election. She moved her campaign but by the time other Republicans joined, she had a 3 week head start and momentum. She funded nearly a million dollars to her campaign, almost 1/3 of what she spent. Trump won her district in 2016 with 75% of the vote. Anyone with an R after their name and loyalty to Trump could win in a district like that. fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-someone-like-marjorie-taylor-greene-could-win-again/“ free will
/ˌfrē ˈwil/
noun
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”With all due respect you seem have a hard time grasping the term “free will” so I dug up a definition for you. Once again, regardless of the gerrymandering or voter suppression, enough individuals, of their own free will, make the choice to vote for these wackos. Nobody has a gun to their head when they vote for these wackos. They themselves make that choice. And enough of these voters, who voted for these wackos of their own free will, manage to elect them to office. What does that say about them as individuals? I can’t decide if these individuals who vote for these wackos, with their own free will, are wackos in their own right or they think it’s funny to send someone like her and the other wackos to Congress. And yes, in some districts or states the Republicans outnumber the Democrats. But again, no one is forcing the Republicans that dominate a district or a state to vote for these wackos. They chose to do it. Let me be a smartass and repeat it “They chose to do it”. Of let me put it this way, if person who usually votes Republican in a heavily red district wanted to, they could vote for a Democrat or third party instead of voting for the wackos. If enough did it then maybe we would not have these walking embarrassments in Congress. It all boils down to choice based on an individual’s free will. With all due respect, I'm not stupid. Even if I didn't understand free will, you've repeatedly posted the definition. It's never as simple as stupid voters and free will. Stupid voters and free will do not exist in a vacuum. I'm not suggesting that anyone held a gun to the voters' heads or forced them to vote a certain way. But, there are important influences on voters' choices. You frequently disregard or ignore the local impacts and nuances of elections. And you sometimes overlook national trends and influences on elections (media, social media, campaign finance, polarization, dark politics, foreign influence and interference, timing of the election, gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter participation, barriers to voting, polling locations etc) This is from 2008 but it shows how something as seemingly insignificant as a polling location - church, school etc can create a bias or influence voter' choices. www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/can-polling-location-influence-how-voters-voteeta - Maybe instead of repeatedly calling voters stupid, you could make an effort to understand why they vote for Republicans. More than half of the country is not nearly as deep blue as parts of California. Many Americans have a very different perspective from yours. They're not all stupid just because you disagree with their choices or they don't vote the way you think they should. And honestly, I think a lot of them are tired of being looked down on, lectured and called stupid by Democrats, the middle class or college educated professionals. I'm not in any way defending the MAGA Republicans, and this isn't intended as a commentary on Biden's speech. I think he was right to call them out and he walked a very fine line. I just think a little understanding on both sides would go a long way. |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 3, 2022 22:25:40 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 1:33:16 GMT
Oh oh dumpster don isn’t going to be happy….
From The Insider…. This is from one of the debates between Hillary & trump.
”There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row," she said. "He started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged."
To which Trump interjected, "I should've gotten it."
In response, the Television Academy, which awards the Emmys, responded to Trump's accusations on Wednesday night, along with an infographic showing how an Emmy is won.”
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 2:04:15 GMT
“ free will
/ˌfrē ˈwil/
noun
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”With all due respect you seem have a hard time grasping the term “free will” so I dug up a definition for you. Once again, regardless of the gerrymandering or voter suppression, enough individuals, of their own free will, make the choice to vote for these wackos. Nobody has a gun to their head when they vote for these wackos. They themselves make that choice. And enough of these voters, who voted for these wackos of their own free will, manage to elect them to office. What does that say about them as individuals? I can’t decide if these individuals who vote for these wackos, with their own free will, are wackos in their own right or they think it’s funny to send someone like her and the other wackos to Congress. And yes, in some districts or states the Republicans outnumber the Democrats. But again, no one is forcing the Republicans that dominate a district or a state to vote for these wackos. They chose to do it. Let me be a smartass and repeat it “They chose to do it”. Of let me put it this way, if person who usually votes Republican in a heavily red district wanted to, they could vote for a Democrat or third party instead of voting for the wackos. If enough did it then maybe we would not have these walking embarrassments in Congress. It all boils down to choice based on an individual’s free will. With all due respect, I'm not stupid. Even if I didn't understand free will, you've repeatedly posted the definition. It's never as simple as stupid voters and free will. Stupid voters and free will do not exist in a vacuum. I'm not suggesting that anyone held a gun to the voters' heads or forced them to vote a certain way. But, there are important influences on voters' choices. You frequently disregard or ignore the local impacts and nuances of elections. And you sometimes overlook national trends and influences on elections (media, social media, campaign finance, polarization, dark politics, foreign influence and interference, timing of the election, gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter participation, barriers to voting, polling locations etc)This is from 2008 but it shows how something as seemingly insignificant as a polling location - church, school etc can create a bias or influence voter' choices. www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/can-polling-location-influence-how-voters-voteI pounded out a couple of responses before I realized we both view this differently and it’s doubtful either of us is going to change how we see it. So we are going to agree to disagree on this and I’m going to move on. |
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 2:09:06 GMT
I wonder if he knew President Ibama had won an Emmy when ranted about this?
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 2:11:00 GMT
Well dumpster don is ranting tonight…
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 2:12:37 GMT
I wonder if he can name any of the Founding Fathers without being prompted.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 4, 2022 2:13:43 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2022 2:21:48 GMT
As he rants about it is the Democrats who are taking democracy away... Look at Arizona and Michigan and others. (Michigan is mentioned up thread about the word spacing that the GOP keeping the abortion question off the November ballot.) MI is not alone. The GOP war on voting just took a new turnBob Brigham September 03, 2022 Republicans are not just fighting to limit access to the ballot box but are increasing battling what questions can even appear on ballots."Hundreds of thousands of people signed petitions this year backing proposed ballot initiatives to expand voting access, ensure abortion rights and legalize recreational marijuana in Arizona, Arkansas and Michigan," the Associated Press reported. "Yet voters might not get a say because Republican officials or judges have blocked the proposals from the November elections, citing flawed wording, procedural shortcomings or insufficient petition signatures."The AP noted GOP lawmakers in both Arizona and Arkansas are attempting to amend their constitutions to make it harder put citizen initiatives on the ballot."The Republican pushback against the initiative process is part of a several-year trend that gained steam as Democratic-aligned groups have increasingly used petitions to force public votes on issues that Republican-led legislatures have opposed," the AP reported. "In reliably Republican Missouri, for example, voters have approved initiatives to expand Medicaid, raise the minimum wage and legalize medical marijuana. An initiative seeking to allow recreational pot is facing a court challenge from an anti-drug activist aiming to knock it off the November ballot." "In Michigan this past week, two Republican members of the bipartisan Board of State Canvassers blocked initiatives to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution and expand opportunities for voting. Each measure had significantly more than the required 425,000 signatures. But GOP board members said the voting measure had unclear wording and the abortion measure was flawed because of spacing problems that scrunched some words together," the AP reported. In 2018, Florida voters restored voting rights to felons, but GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis and GOP lawmakers severely limited the constitutional amendment in the legislature. "In Arizona, the primarily Republican-appointed Supreme Court recently blocked a proposed constitutional amendment that would have extended early voting and limited lobbyist gifts to lawmakers. The measure also would have specifically prohibited the Legislature from overturning the results of presidential elections, which some Republicans had explored after then- President Donald Trump’s loss in 2020," the AP reported. "Still on the ballot are several other amendments referred by Arizona’s Republican-led Legislature. Those measures would limit initiatives to a single subject, require a 60% supermajority to approve tax proposals and expand the Legislature’s authority to change voter-approved initiatives." www.rawstory.com/republicans-ballot-initiatives/ |
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