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Post by edie3 on Jan 3, 2023 19:24:46 GMT
My sister was watching this game. Then started looking into the background of Hamlin. He has been fined for hitting a quarterback - after the play. About 3 weeks ago, he was fined and ejected from a game for a helmet hit on a different player who is still out of the game on the injury list. Both of these incidences are during this season. In the game last night, he wasn't hit -- he made a tackle. Apparently he" tackles hard" ... and based on two fines AND being ejected from a game, perhaps a little "inappropriately". I'm sorry this man got injured - I hope he gets better and finds some other way to make a living -- it won't be at the million dollar level, of course, since he is unskilled in any other manner than football and uneducated; I'm sorry that the Miami quarterback is out of the game for, at least, this season - possibly forever; I'm glad, once again, that I refused to permit DS to play football; the game is violent - but the players are assuming the risk of the game in exchange for a million dollars per season minimum. And this is your focus now? Speaks volumes. |
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Post by christine58 on Jan 3, 2023 19:30:22 GMT
Sorry. I’ll delete my response. I totally read it wrong and I apologize. I’m just so worried about this young man |
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Post by pinklady on Jan 3, 2023 19:49:17 GMT
My sister was watching this game. Then started looking into the background of Hamlin. He has been fined for hitting a quarterback - after the play. About 3 weeks ago, he was fined and ejected from a game for a helmet hit on a different player who is still out of the game on the injury list. Both of these incidences are during this season. In the game last night, he wasn't hit -- he made a tackle. Apparently he" tackles hard" ... and based on two fines AND being ejected from a game, perhaps a little "inappropriately". I'm sorry this man got injured - I hope he gets better and finds some other way to make a living -- it won't be at the million dollar level, of course, since he is unskilled in any other manner than football and uneducated; I'm sorry that the Miami quarterback is out of the game for, at least, this season - possibly forever; I'm glad, once again, that I refused to permit DS to play football; the game is violent - but the players are assuming the risk of the game in exchange for a million dollars per season minimum. Hope that post made you feel better. It just makes you look like a dick. 🤦🏼♀️ |
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Post by peaname on Jan 3, 2023 23:22:25 GMT
This is so sad. With immediate CPR there has to be more going on than cardiac arrest due to the trauma. I wonder when we’ll hear more.
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Post by Zee on Jan 3, 2023 23:30:58 GMT
This is so sad. With immediate CPR there has to be more going on than cardiac arrest due to the trauma. I wonder when we’ll hear more. Not really, my first thought was a direct hit blunt force trauma to the heart causing arrest. Damage could have caused ventricular standstill. But I have no idea if that's the case, just my very first thought as a cardiac nurse. |
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Post by pmm on Jan 4, 2023 0:12:59 GMT
This is so sad. With immediate CPR there has to be more going on than cardiac arrest due to the trauma. I wonder when we’ll hear more. Not really, my first thought was a direct hit blunt force trauma to the heart causing arrest. Damage could have caused ventricular standstill. But I have no idea if that's the case, just my very first thought as a cardiac nurse. Zee, I thought the same- blunt force trauma causing the arrest. You should have heard me trying to have a discussion with my Dad. Gah! I finally gave up and said "I do know, it's my job. I'm a respiratory therapist, I'm suppose to know about this type of stuff." I live in Cincinnati and I've been checking frequently for updates. Such a tragedy. |
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Post by finaledition on Jan 4, 2023 0:26:09 GMT
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Post by christine58 on Jan 4, 2023 0:35:55 GMT
I live in Cincinnati and I've been checking frequently for updates. Such a tragedy. Your fans and team have been awesome. I heard great things from some Bills fans at the game last night. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 4, 2023 0:39:35 GMT
This is so sad. With immediate CPR there has to be more going on than cardiac arrest due to the trauma. I wonder when we’ll hear more. I am reposting this from page 4. Doctors Vin Gupta MSNBC and Sanjay Gupta CNN, have both discussed this all day. Some, I don't know if all, little league pitchers wear a chest plate to protect them from being struck by a hit ball. |
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Post by peaname on Jan 4, 2023 1:27:09 GMT
I had no idea commotio cordis has such a low survival rate with immediate cpr. Sadly I guess I learned something new. My son is a baseball pitcher and has been hit a few times.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Jan 4, 2023 1:41:17 GMT
My sister was watching this game. Then started looking into the background of Hamlin. He has been fined for hitting a quarterback - after the play. About 3 weeks ago, he was fined and ejected from a game for a helmet hit on a different player who is still out of the game on the injury list. Both of these incidences are during this season. In the game last night, he wasn't hit -- he made a tackle. Apparently he" tackles hard" ... and based on two fines AND being ejected from a game, perhaps a little "inappropriately". I'm sorry this man got injured - I hope he gets better and finds some other way to make a living -- it won't be at the million dollar level, of course, since he is unskilled in any other manner than football and uneducated; I'm sorry that the Miami quarterback is out of the game for, at least, this season - possibly forever; I'm glad, once again, that I refused to permit DS to play football; the game is violent - but the players are assuming the risk of the game in exchange for a million dollars per season minimum. Wow...you are really a horrible person. Not to mention that you sound racist. I really hope that all of the feedback you have received will inspire you to do some soul searching and try to become a better, more caring human. |
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Post by karenk on Jan 4, 2023 2:08:14 GMT
Local news in Buffalo reported the toy charity now had 5 million! Needless to say, we are all devastated. It’s been a really bad few weeks, with the blizzard. We are now up to 42 deaths. More and more sadness.
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Post by christine58 on Jan 4, 2023 2:12:36 GMT
Local news in Buffalo reported the toy charity now had 5 million! Needless to say, we are all devastated. It’s been a really bad few weeks, with the blizzard. We are now up to 42 deaths. More and more sadness. Plus the mass shooting in May and the terrible fire where 5 children died last week. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 4, 2023 2:27:22 GMT
Local news in Buffalo reported the toy charity now had 5 million! Needless to say, we are all devastated. It’s been a really bad few weeks, with the blizzard. We are now up to 42 deaths. More and more sadness. Plus the mass shooting in May and the terrible fire where 5 children died last week. 🥺😭 |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 4, 2023 2:43:09 GMT
I had no idea commotio cordis has such a low survival rate with immediate cpr. Sadly I guess I learned something new. My son is a baseball pitcher and has been hit a few times. Partly because people don't know about it. Even immediate CPR is really not enough, immediate access and use of the defibrillator is most important. That is why they have AED units placed in schools and many public places and in police cars etc. But often they are not close by for immediate use.. people have to search for them and that is deadly. They had one on the sidelines last night and used it. (BTW: you could ask if the school has or uses chest plates.. ) I really do wish they would give some update. So many people watched it happen. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 4, 2023 2:57:10 GMT
My sister was watching this game. Then started looking into the background of Hamlin. He has been fined for hitting a quarterback - after the play. About 3 weeks ago, he was fined and ejected from a game for a helmet hit on a different player who is still out of the game on the injury list. Both of these incidences are during this season. In the game last night, he wasn't hit -- he made a tackle. Apparently he" tackles hard" ... and based on two fines AND being ejected from a game, perhaps a little "inappropriately". I'm sorry this man got injured - I hope he gets better and finds some other way to make a living -- it won't be at the million dollar level, of course, since he is unskilled in any other manner than football and uneducated; I'm sorry that the Miami quarterback is out of the game for, at least, this season - possibly forever; I'm glad, once again, that I refused to permit DS to play football; the game is violent - but the players are assuming the risk of the game in exchange for a million dollars per season minimum. I'm not going to play armchair psychologist for you but I really, really, really hope you are able to do some self-reflection after making this post because it's monstrous. And fwiw, this "uneducated" young man graduated with TWO degrees from the University of Pittsburgh, during a pandemic. And the very first thing he did after graduating was to set up a non-profit to give back to his community. |
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Post by pmm on Jan 4, 2023 2:57:13 GMT
I had no idea commotio cordis has such a low survival rate with immediate cpr. Sadly I guess I learned something new. My son is a baseball pitcher and has been hit a few times. Partly because people don't know about it. Even immediate CPR is really not enough, immediate access and use of the defibrillator is most important. That is why they have AED units placed in schools and many public places and in police cars etc. But often they are not close by for immediate use.. people have to search for them and that is deadly. They had one on the sidelines last night and used it. (BTW: you could ask if the school has or uses chest plates.. ) I really do wish they would give some update. So many people watched it happen. I wish there was an update too. I know people that work at UC, but I have not reached out to anyone because I know the rules and don't want to put someone in an awkward position of asking them to break them. |
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Post by mom on Jan 4, 2023 3:18:07 GMT
I am really concerned that there hasn't been more updates today....not that I expected hourly updates or anything, but something. I know his family posted their release, but really wish we had a clue as to how bad this is for him. Of course, they might not know anything really to tell us.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 4, 2023 3:25:14 GMT
It took a few days to get to the bottom of ds' cardiac problems when he was swiftly admitted to the PICU at ahe 2. He was continually having all kinds of cardiac tests and evaluations like echos and ekgs and cardiac mris and eegs, and nerve tests and x-rays and then meds and blood transfusions and oxygen tests and all kinds of other stuff. It was a lot.
And it took a bit for all those tests to be done - there tests are not ran overnight so you have to be fit in somewhere and while in the PICU others had higher priority sometimes.
Then the various teams have to analyze and see what is going on and then make a plan and then talk to you.
And honestly they may just want privacy to figure it all out. And that is okay.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 4, 2023 3:41:56 GMT
I am really concerned that there hasn't been more updates today....not that I expected hourly updates or anything, but something. I know his family posted their release, but really wish we had a clue as to how bad this is for him. Of course, they might not know anything really to tell us. From what I've read, they will do the cooling technique and sedation/intubation for some period of time after a cardiac event like this. The question that remains is how long was his brain without oxygen? I had a friend who had a cardiac event and they did the cooling/sedation/intubation for 3-4 days before they determined that her brain could not recover from the amount of time she was without oxygen. I am hopeful that the immediate CPR makes it more likely he will have a positive outcome. But realistically, it was a really long time until they got his heart restarted and even longer until his vitals returned to normal. I think they probably don't know for sure yet but the lack of a positive update is concerning. |
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Post by mom on Jan 4, 2023 3:45:04 GMT
I am really concerned that there hasn't been more updates today....not that I expected hourly updates or anything, but something. I know his family posted their release, but really wish we had a clue as to how bad this is for him. Of course, they might not know anything really to tell us. From what I've read, they will do the cooling technique and sedation/intubation for some period of time after a cardiac event like this. The question that remains is how long was his brain without oxygen? I had a friend who had a cardiac event and they did the cooling/sedation/intubation for 3-4 days before they determined that her brain could not recover from the amount of time she was without oxygen. I am hopeful that the immediate CPR makes it more likely he will have a positive outcome. But realistically, it was a really long time until they got his heart restarted and even longer until his vitals returned to normal. I think they probably don't know for sure yet but the lack of a positive update is concerning. I went looking for an update and saw that his uncle gave an interview. www.tmz.com/2023/01/03/damar-hamlin-needed-resuscitated-twice-heart-stopped-hospital-uncle/Highlights: Heart stopped twice - on the field & again at hospital Still sedated in hopes it helps him heal 50% ventilator Lung damage but optimistic he will be able to one day breathe on his own Positioned on his stomach to keep pressure off his lungs |
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Post by hutchfan on Jan 4, 2023 3:58:07 GMT
Been praying all night and day for Damar and his family.
The businesses in my area and in downtown Cincinnati have lit their buildings up in blue and red to show support for Damar and the Bills.
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Post by pmm on Jan 4, 2023 4:00:08 GMT
From what I've read, they will do the cooling technique and sedation/intubation for some period of time after a cardiac event like this. The question that remains is how long was his brain without oxygen? I had a friend who had a cardiac event and they did the cooling/sedation/intubation for 3-4 days before they determined that her brain could not recover from the amount of time she was without oxygen. I am hopeful that the immediate CPR makes it more likely he will have a positive outcome. But realistically, it was a really long time until they got his heart restarted and even longer until his vitals returned to normal. I think they probably don't know for sure yet but the lack of a positive update is concerning. I went looking for an update and saw that his uncle gave an interview. www.tmz.com/2023/01/03/damar-hamlin-needed-resuscitated-twice-heart-stopped-hospital-uncle/Highlights: Heart stopped twice - on the field & again at hospital Still sedated in hopes it helps him heal 50% ventilator Lung damage but optimistic he will be able to one day breathe on his own Positioned on his stomach to keep pressure off his lungs I read the article before posting this reply. Honestly, if they are positioning him on his stomach, he is having a hard time oxygenating. Typically, they cool cardiac arrest patients for 24 hours after injury. While they are cooled, they will be kept sedated to prevent shivering and discomfort. Until his cooling period is over, they doctors really won't know his outcome for recovery. I pray that we will have more news in the morning as his cooling period will be over in the early morning hours of Wednesday. |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jan 4, 2023 4:00:40 GMT
From what I've read, they will do the cooling technique and sedation/intubation for some period of time after a cardiac event like this. The question that remains is how long was his brain without oxygen? I had a friend who had a cardiac event and they did the cooling/sedation/intubation for 3-4 days before they determined that her brain could not recover from the amount of time she was without oxygen. I am hopeful that the immediate CPR makes it more likely he will have a positive outcome. But realistically, it was a really long time until they got his heart restarted and even longer until his vitals returned to normal. I think they probably don't know for sure yet but the lack of a positive update is concerning. I went looking for an update and saw that his uncle gave an interview. www.tmz.com/2023/01/03/damar-hamlin-needed-resuscitated-twice-heart-stopped-hospital-uncle/Highlights: Heart stopped twice - on the field & again at hospital Still sedated in hopes it helps him heal 50% ventilator Lung damage but optimistic he will be able to one day breathe on his own Positioned on his stomach to keep pressure off his lungs This young man is 24 years old. Profession aside. I am in tears thinking what his family must be feeling right now. 24 years old is barely a man. Barely an adult. In fact, he is forever someone's son, and my heart hurts so bad for his mom. I know how it felt for my son to break a finger playing basketball running into the wall too hard after shooting. I remember ever single hit he gave or take playing Pop Warner, Middle School and High School football. His mom is needing so many prayers, wishes and just positive thoughts right now. My heart is breaking for her. A friend of mine (@42 and very healthy) had a random cardiac arrest event, loading the dishwasher at night. She dropped something heavy, and her daughter (10) came out because she was nosey. Her nosey self, and knowing the password to her mom's phone (PLEASE PEOPLE WITH NO HOME PHONE MAKE SURE THERE IS A WAY FOR FOLKS TO CALL FOR EMS AT YOUR HOME!!!) is the only reason my friend is still alive (and well.) She immediately came out, called 911 and was able to start CPR (she'd done the YMCA babysitter course.) I don't even know how she managed it. She's a guardian angel. |
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Post by cecilia on Jan 4, 2023 4:51:24 GMT
My sister was watching this game. Then started looking into the background of Hamlin. He has been fined for hitting a quarterback - after the play. About 3 weeks ago, he was fined and ejected from a game for a helmet hit on a different player who is still out of the game on the injury list. Both of these incidences are during this season. In the game last night, he wasn't hit -- he made a tackle. Apparently he" tackles hard" ... and based on two fines AND being ejected from a game, perhaps a little "inappropriately". I'm sorry this man got injured - I hope he gets better and finds some other way to make a living -- it won't be at the million dollar level, of course, since he is unskilled in any other manner than football and uneducated; I'm sorry that the Miami quarterback is out of the game for, at least, this season - possibly forever; I'm glad, once again, that I refused to permit DS to play football; the game is violent - but the players are assuming the risk of the game in exchange for a million dollars per season minimum. ffs. This is the only thing you could think to post? I am hopeful Damar pulls through. Not sure how the ESPN crew were able to hold it together Seattle Mariners' ballpark is lit up in the Bills' colors tonight to show support Someone posted the link on Twitter to Tee Higgins' charity/foundation last night. (Higgins was involved in the play). I believe it is funding dementia research ETA: ALS, not dementia. This was the charity he supported with 'My Cause my cleats' |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 4, 2023 4:55:09 GMT
Is there a Go Fund Me set up for him personally? I know about the Toy for Tots one but what about for him? He was a sixth round draft pick and he's only been in the league for two years. He can't be making that much. He may never return to the league so he may need the financial support for caregivers, etc.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 4, 2023 6:28:57 GMT
Is there a Go Fund Me set up for him personally? I know about the Toy for Tots one but what about for him? He was a sixth round draft pick and he's only been in the league for two years. He can't be making that much. He may never return to the league so he may need the financial support for caregivers, etc. He has about 1.6 million paid out for year 1 and year 2 and has a guaranteed payout of almost 4 million for his contract. I don't know what his terms are about injury vs healthy. Players are also given pay outs when retired and have health coverage. What that covers I don't know. |
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 4, 2023 10:13:46 GMT
Partly because people don't know about it. Even immediate CPR is really not enough, immediate access and use of the defibrillator is most important. That is why they have AED units placed in schools and many public places and in police cars etc. But often they are not close by for immediate use.. people have to search for them and that is deadly. They had one on the sidelines last night and used it. (BTW: you could ask if the school has or uses chest plates.. ) I really do wish they would give some update. So many people watched it happen. I wish there was an update too. I know people that work at UC, but I have not reached out to anyone because I know the rules and don't want to put someone in an awkward position of asking them to break them. It's not a "rule", it's the law. HIPAA, and they would lose their job immediately if it came out that they talked to anyone about any patient. It's not really "putting them in an awkward position" because they know very well they can't talk about patients. Their answer is "I'm sorry but I don't know anything about that". |
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Post by christine58 on Jan 4, 2023 10:31:38 GMT
We’re here in Buffalo are awaiting an update also but patience has to come first right now. It’s amazing to see what every single football team and hockey team and communities have done to pray for him. We got an update last night from our local TV station that the ventilator was now down to working 50% of the time which I am assuming is a good sign.
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Post by elaine on Jan 4, 2023 11:07:40 GMT
Local news in Buffalo reported the toy charity now had 5 million! Needless to say, we are all devastated. It’s been a really bad few weeks, with the blizzard. We are now up to 42 deaths. More and more sadness. Plus the mass shooting in May and the terrible fire where 5 children died last week. I don’t have words for how sad this is. 😢 |
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