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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 20, 2023 0:06:17 GMT
I just asked my husband and he did in high school and my son said he learned about it in middle school he graduated in 21.
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Post by hopemax on Feb 20, 2023 0:40:03 GMT
Yes, I was taught about it in high school. I was in HS from 1989-1993… Manzanar is mentioned in Karate Kid and Snow Falling on Cedars, although a fictional place, is set near where I grew up (North end of Puget Sound). And other parts of the Western Washington area… Bellevue… has a sad and unsettling history in regards to these events.
This thread is interesting to me, because I wonder how geography plays a role in people’s exposure.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 20, 2023 0:43:55 GMT
I’m 60 and definitely studied it in high school. It was not whitewashed and I remember wondering how America could have ever done such a thing and it couldn’t happen again. I was so naive. I didn’t take history in college. I am 61, and I also learned the unvarnished version in high school in small-town WV. Maybe history hadn’t been discovered as a controversial topic yet? We covered in college as well, and I also remember learning about the Tulsa and Roseville attacks in college. Funny thing is, I don’t remember anyone expressing any kind of “blame every white person today for the past actions of white leaders). I did not feel “ashamed for being white” when I learned these things. I felt anger that people could do such things! As did most of my peers.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 20, 2023 1:41:33 GMT
Small rural high school in Nebraska - definitely did not learn about it. I can't pinpoint exactly when I did learn about it. We visited Manzanar a few summers ago and they have turned it into an excellent NPS site - I was impressed with the exhibits and you can tell it was developed in more recent times as they did not shy away from the racism, etc.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 20, 2023 2:10:17 GMT
I learned about the camps in grade school. we had a japanese american teacher in our school and his sister wrote one of the first hand accounts of the camps in the 1950's. we just always were aware of it. my parents knew people who had been sent to the camps, and they knew japanese americans stuck in camps (high school age kids) in japan. it was part of local Seattle history.
I know Dave Guterson who wrote Snow falling on cedars.. I was in many classes with him in jr high and high school. and his book came out the week of our 20th high school reunion. I remember him saying that when he did the first book tours, few on the east coast knew anything about the camps. My dad even knew a guy whose dad snuck a movie camera into a camp.. his film ended up in the smithsonian.
so it is something I have always known. we call them concentration camps.
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Post by silverlining on Feb 20, 2023 2:31:55 GMT
I heard about them often from my mother. She grew up on a farm in the Central Valley of California, where there were many Japanese farmers. She told us about a Japanese friend who suddenly stopped attending their small high school. My mom tried to find her over the years and never could.
I don't remember learning about them in high school. Maybe I did, but it didn't grab my attention the way my mom's personal experience did.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Feb 20, 2023 2:54:12 GMT
I learned about it about 5 years ago (I'm 52) when I started teaching photography and Dorothea Lange was one of the photographers I focused on. I grew up in AZ so that probably had something to do with it.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 20, 2023 3:45:30 GMT
I can't remember when I learned of it, but I always thought that WWII's beginning was about as far as we got in American History in High School--because by the time we covered all before 1940, the school year was over.
I was aware of some discrimination against those of Japanese heritage because a family lived in our area. I am surprised they were not put in an internment camp, but my mother told me once how terrible the family was treated. I recall her saying that the "authorities" came and examined the home and took the family's radio away.
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Post by vjlau on Feb 20, 2023 4:13:23 GMT
My son could easily walk to the previous site of a huge interment camp from his school, and nope - not one mention of it in high school.
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Post by flanz on Feb 20, 2023 4:31:11 GMT
On this day in 1942, Executive Order 9066 was signed into law allowing for the forced relocation and internment of people of Japanese ancestry. I wasn't taught this in school. I happened to be a history major and learned it in college. I teach my students when we are on that year (I have a three year cycle, so they all get it it just depends in if they get it 9th, 10th, or 11th). Did you learn it in high school? Does your district teach about this part of American history? I'm so glad that you teach this! Thank you! I grew up in Canada and moved to Cali in the late 80s. I didn't know about this atrocity inflicted on Japanese Americans until many years after our move, when I read the novel, Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet. I've since learned a fair bit... a really ugly bit of our U.S. history.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 20, 2023 4:40:41 GMT
Nope. I learned it as an elementary teacher (my first year out of college) when I bought The Bracelet and Baseball Saved Us picture books to read to my students. I taught those books as well. My fifth graders could not wrap their heads around it. I had to agree with them. I do not remember learning about the internment camps in school though. To be fair, I am sure that I did learn about a lot of things that I just don't remember.
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Post by ModChick on Feb 20, 2023 5:35:03 GMT
We had internment camps here in British Columbia, I’m not sure if I learned about it in school or later on in life. Just can’t remember where my tiny bit of knowledge about them came from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 13:19:57 GMT
I'm pretty sure we did learn this in high school. If not, maybe I read about it somewhere (I did use to read the encyclopedia for fun). But I do believe it was in school.
I have no idea if our district teaches it. Dd graduated a few years ago from the neighboring district where we used to live. I'll ask her later.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 20, 2023 13:45:19 GMT
I never learned about it in school. I had no idea we did that until maybe 10 years ago.
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Post by Fidget on Feb 20, 2023 13:54:34 GMT
I did not learn about this in school. My initial education around this was reading the book "Hotel on the Corner of Bitter & Sweet". I was flabbergasted, did a bit of research on my own after the book.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 20, 2023 14:16:27 GMT
I learned about it growing up because the state fairgrounds near me was an internment camp.
My dad grew up during WW!! and has a lot of stories about the war from a child's perspective.
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Post by wellway on Feb 20, 2023 14:26:05 GMT
I can't remember when I learnt about internment camps in America, but it won't surprise me if was in history classes in school (Europe) as the history course was quite wide arranging. It's certainly something I was aware of.
What was surprising was finding out in the last fifteen years or so that my grandfather sent time in an internment camp. He died when my mum was very young and my grandmother didn't talk much about him, it upset her, so the story didn't get passed on until I found a newspaper cutting. I only wish I could ask him lots and lots of questions.
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Post by khaleesi on Feb 20, 2023 14:47:14 GMT
I learned about it in middle school and more in-depth discussion in high school. I grew up in the PNW not far from the Puyallup fair (now the WA State Fair) which was used as a relocation center. I also had friends who had grandparents who were in internment camps. My husband who grew up in Michigan has no memory of it being covered in his history classes.
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Post by scrapmaven on Feb 20, 2023 15:34:38 GMT
I learned it from dh's family. His parents, aunts and uncles are all survivors. We never studied it in school. I think they spent one class session on the holocaust, but it was a very watered down version. Of course, we all celebrated Columbus and what great friends the pilgrims were to the "Indians". It was a perversion of actual history.
Many of the internment camps survivors will not talk about their experience; though, my mother-in-law would answer specific questions. I know that the first day they were told to gather hay from bales and they stuffed their beds w/that. Then they sat down to a menu of "mush", like oatmeal. Nice, 'eh? Many of the survivors were Nisei, 2nd generation, born in America. They had no country, no one to rescue them and no one to care about them. They didn't teach that to anyone, becuase they wanted to cover up one of our country's evil moments. Eleanor Roosevelt was not a good person. She wanted these camps, How much of our history is fictional, so that we come out looking like angels?
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Post by casii on Feb 20, 2023 16:52:59 GMT
I can't remember learning about it in school. Most of my schooling was in rural OK & AR and there were 2 camps in Arkansas so I'd think they'd merit some attention.
In high school in OK, at my school we took a full semester of OK history where we did not learn about the Tulsa massacre, so Japanese interment camps certainly weren't a part of the curriculum. I feel like we were taught that the US finally got involved after Pearl Harbor and we saved everyone as heroes, the end. The truth is a much bigger and layered picture.
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Post by Olan on Feb 20, 2023 17:38:11 GMT
Is it really “layered” though. Most of it is a pretty clean cut story of good and evil no? Whenever I’d post about Jim Crow or how enslaved Africans were treated I got the sense that everyone wanted to shut me up and gloss over what had happened. If you go through my search history I say as much too. I forgot the pea who was introspective enough to acknowledge it was guilt but boy was that eye opening…critical race theory did not shock me because I saw it play out here first. So the real reason you’ve never learned about interment camps because if they taught it in an effective way, it could never happen again. And they don’t want that.
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Post by katlady on Feb 20, 2023 17:39:02 GMT
My dad’s family rented their farm land, so they did not lose property, but they could only take with them what they could carry. They did lose their animals. My dad was young and he jokingly told me that he was happy that he no longer had to do farm chores and that he could play basketball all the time. He really didn’t understand, at that time, why they were sent there. The older population of course fully understood. When the Japanese nationals were finally allowed to become citizens in 1952, my grandfather was bitter and never became a citizen. I think the only thing that kept him in the US after the war was his family. His children, grandchildren, and now his wife, were all citizens. My dad’s oldest brother volunteered, and he was a translator in the Pacific during the war.
My mom’s family was in Hawaii, so their story is a lot different. The JA had been there since the late 1800’s and they were needed to work on the big plantations. I guess money overrode the fear of them being “traitors” so they were never rounded up. A couple of uncles volunteered. One fought with the 442nd in Europe. I have his pin, and I treasure it.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 20, 2023 17:48:32 GMT
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Post by sueg on Feb 20, 2023 17:57:44 GMT
I don't know when I first learned about the US interment camps, but I didn't grow up, nor have I ever lived, in the US. I have known all my life that there were camps in Australia, as that is how my dad's family first came to Australia, My nonno was put into a camp by the British in (what was then) Palestine, as he was an Italian who worked for a British map printing firm and was considered dangerous due to that. His wife (my nanna) and their three sons - including my dad - we also interned. They were later shipped out to the US, but their boat was attacked, so they were transferred to another ship that was en route to Sydney, so they ended up there. There were also camps where Japanese prisoners were kept in Australia. One thing I didn't learn in school history classes was that Darwin, in Northern Australia, was bombed by the Japanese several times after 1942, and that Japanese submarines were found sunk in Sydney Harbour after the war.
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Post by mcjunkin on Feb 20, 2023 18:16:16 GMT
Yes, in high school-1991-1994.
Very back-woods, conservative, not diverse, southern, small town. Teachers were fairly conservative and not ones to push boundaries.
Surprised so many others here were not taught that since we were in our high school!
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Post by miominmio on Feb 20, 2023 19:42:26 GMT
I thiiiiink I learnt it in high school (in Norway). Whether it was part of the curriculum or something the teacher just mentioned, I have no idea.
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 20, 2023 21:05:47 GMT
Wow I can’t imagine not learning it! Or that is marked political because it’s just history…it’s not political?
I grew up where there were camps and also had Japanese American friends growing up whose grandparents were interned, but I’m sure it was taught in school also.
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Post by katlady on Feb 20, 2023 21:18:59 GMT
Wow I can’t imagine not learning it! Or that is marked political because it’s just history…it’s not political? I don't understand either. We are talking about a historical event. Why is that political?
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Post by oh yvonne on Feb 20, 2023 21:36:15 GMT
Growing up I lived in a predominantly Japanese American neighborhood in Southern California. It was a mix of Japanese and Mexican Americans.
This was never discussed, even though many of my neighbors would have been of the age that was affected. In fact, in 1976 a tv movie was made of Farewell to Manzanar and I watched it. When I was curious and tried to ask my neighbor about it she shushed me and told me 'no talk about, no talk!' and shamed me for even bringing it up.
I had the distinct impression from everyone that it was best left in the past. I remember feeling so sad, still do. It was terrible what we did to Japanese Americans.
<ed to add> It wasn't taught until High School, and by then we'd moved to a different county.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 20, 2023 23:24:54 GMT
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