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Post by bbkeef on Mar 22, 2023 17:25:50 GMT
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Post by Delta Dawn on Mar 22, 2023 17:30:39 GMT
I don’t like her and the best part of Se7en was her head in a box. She is just an awful person.
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Post by katlady on Mar 22, 2023 17:48:12 GMT
I've read both sides of the story. One was that he cut in front of her, the other was she ran him over. One account also said the guy refused medical attention, and he didn't need any assistance after the collision. If he broke 4 ribs he would have been in a lot of pain. Paltrow apparently left after it was confirmed he was ok, not that she hit and run. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court. To me it sounds like he is after $$$, but he may be seriously impaired. I don't know. And, it happened 7 years ago??!!
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Post by ntsf on Mar 22, 2023 19:54:40 GMT
having more life experience in this area than I care to discuss, I would say it is very very difficult to hold anyone responsible for this crash without video. you sign most rights away when you buy a ski ticket..and on a beginner slope it is harder to determine if they are above you or to the side or what.. I also fault the ski instructor for not taking more action.. and you should not be looking backward as you go down the slope... you follow the class with the kids.. not ski ahead and look back. she should have remained at the scene til the ski patrol arrived. but generally all the laws are oriented to protecting ski areas from any liability and skiing has known and unknown risks and hazards.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 22, 2023 19:57:37 GMT
Not enough info in that article to really know what happened
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Post by peabay on Mar 22, 2023 20:22:07 GMT
There's very little I like about Gwyneth Paltrow but I really do think this is a cash grab on the so-called "victim's" part.
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Post by paget on Mar 22, 2023 20:58:37 GMT
Of course we don’t have enough info, but based on what I read there, it sounds like she did wait at the scene and he ran into her.
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Post by frenchie on Mar 22, 2023 20:58:54 GMT
I saw a little of the trial yesterday, and supposedly he was taken down the hill in the toboggan thing after the accident. I don't think it's unusual to feel the effects of an accident afterwards. He had 4 broken ribs and a concussion, according to testimony yesterday. And it was also stated that his broken ribs had to have happened from GP running into him. Who knows. The XGF of the man who is suing did testify that he was a completely different man after the accident. She seemed very believable to me.
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Post by busy on Mar 22, 2023 21:03:49 GMT
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 22, 2023 21:07:27 GMT
They've been reporting about it on our local news. I really don't know much about it to have an opinion though.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 22, 2023 21:11:36 GMT
Not enough information.
However, if this was not involving a famous person would there be a case in court at all…
If yes then perhaps the case has merit, if no then why is it a case. Who a person is & how much they make us not a valid reason to sue them. They have to have some fault or negligence, no?
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 22, 2023 21:12:09 GMT
having more life experience in this area than I care to discuss, I would say it is very very difficult to hold anyone responsible for this crash without video. you sign most rights away when you buy a ski ticket..and on a beginner slope it is harder to determine if they are above you or to the side or what.. I also fault the ski instructor for not taking more action.. and you should not be looking backward as you go down the slope... you follow the class with the kids.. not ski ahead and look back. she should have remained at the scene til the ski patrol arrived. but generally all the laws are oriented to protecting ski areas from any liability and skiing has known and unknown risks and hazards. Yeah, I'm by no means an expert or anything. I've just been skiing a few times. When I heard about the trial, I thought how are they going to prove any of this is true? I have a family member who was plowed over by a snowboarder and she will have issues for the rest of her life. Nothing happened to the guy not paying attention. |
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Post by peabay on Mar 22, 2023 21:27:34 GMT
having more life experience in this area than I care to discuss, I would say it is very very difficult to hold anyone responsible for this crash without video. you sign most rights away when you buy a ski ticket..and on a beginner slope it is harder to determine if they are above you or to the side or what.. I also fault the ski instructor for not taking more action.. and you should not be looking backward as you go down the slope... you follow the class with the kids.. not ski ahead and look back. she should have remained at the scene til the ski patrol arrived. but generally all the laws are oriented to protecting ski areas from any liability and skiing has known and unknown risks and hazards. Yeah, I'm by no means an expert or anything. I've just been skiing a few times. When I heard about the trial, I thought how are they going to prove any of this is true? I have a family member who was plowed over by a snowboarder and she will have issues for the rest of her life. Nothing happened to the guy not paying attention. Same - my sister was really lucky to survive having her neck sliced by a snowboard (she got tons of stitches but it blessedly missed her carotid artery) - but no results. Who could say what happened? Who was at fault? It's impossible to determine. |
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Post by peasquared on Mar 22, 2023 21:45:42 GMT
Yeah, I'm by no means an expert or anything. I've just been skiing a few times. When I heard about the trial, I thought how are they going to prove any of this is true? I have a family member who was plowed over by a snowboarder and she will have issues for the rest of her life. Nothing happened to the guy not paying attention. Same - my sister was really lucky to survive having her neck sliced by a snowboard (she got tons of stitches but it blessedly missed her carotid artery) - but no results. Who could say what happened? Who was at fault? It's impossible to determine. Oh my gosh! How scary! Glad she was okay. I don't care much for GP, but something smells fishy to me. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 22, 2023 22:52:58 GMT
I saw a little of the trial yesterday, and supposedly he was taken down the hill in the toboggan thing after the accident. I don't think it's unusual to feel the effects of an accident afterwards. He had 4 broken ribs and a concussion, according to testimony yesterday. And it was also stated that his broken ribs had to have happened from GP running into him. Who knows. The XGF of the man who is suing did testify that he was a completely different man after the accident. She seemed very believable to me. To be honest this is the part that made me more suspicious - different person - really? I have been taken out hard twice - once when I was about 2 months pregnant and scared the ever loving shit out of me. I may be jaded, but honestly I think if you're a different person it's because you thought you saw $$$$$ |
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 22, 2023 23:31:46 GMT
There's very little I like about Gwyneth Paltrow but I really do think this is a cash grab on the so-called "victim's" part. I totally agree. Why didn't he say he was hurt right away? Broken ribs hurt immediately. It's not like he started to feel injured a day or two later. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 23, 2023 0:50:25 GMT
Broken ribs hurt immediately. It's not like he started to feel injured a day or two later That's not always the case. I was in a car accident and slammed into the seatbelt and fractured my sternum and a couple of ribs. I was sore the first few days, but not too bad, I went back to work after 3 days and was happy that I wasn't too badly injured...but then after being back at work a few days it started to get worse and worse. By the end of the week I could barely move and then I had to have two weeks off, and it stayed very painful for a couple of months but initially the first few days weren't too bad. From what I read/watched about the case so far, I do believe she was looking back at her kids and ran into him...that makes sense, I also believe he was injured. I think the fact that she had an attitude and left is what is driving this case. had she apologized and hung around and made sure he was OK etc, I doubt he'd be pursuing this. It seems to me like he thinks she was rude and entitles and now he's going to make her pay...and I can understand why. His lawyer made a statement about "an apology now won't make any difference" but I get the feeling that an apology back then very well might have. |
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Post by frenchie on Mar 23, 2023 0:53:20 GMT
I saw a little of the trial yesterday, and supposedly he was taken down the hill in the toboggan thing after the accident. I don't think it's unusual to feel the effects of an accident afterwards. He had 4 broken ribs and a concussion, according to testimony yesterday. And it was also stated that his broken ribs had to have happened from GP running into him. Who knows. The XGF of the man who is suing did testify that he was a completely different man after the accident. She seemed very believable to me. To be honest this is the part that made me more suspicious - different person - really? I have been taken out hard twice - once when I was about 2 months pregnant and scared the ever loving shit out of me. I may be jaded, but honestly I think if you're a different person it's because you thought you saw $$$$$ Yeah, I don't know. I really couldn't care less what happens in the case, but yesterday it was said that he lost consciousness on the slope and ended up with a concussion and 4 broken ribs. Was he stunned and confused after it happened? Maybe. Who knows. He is older-70s? |
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 23, 2023 1:25:02 GMT
I can understand not realizing the extent of the injuries until later, I've known a few people that have had similar circumstances where they don't initially realize how hurt they actually are. However, if this accident didn't involve a celebrity I highly doubt anything would have come of it. Therefore, I'm in the cash grab camp.
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Post by katlady on Mar 23, 2023 1:25:35 GMT
Something else that I think is odd is that the guy was initially suing for $3.1 million. He is now suing for only $300,000.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Mar 23, 2023 12:04:39 GMT
Something else that I think is odd is that the guy was initially suing for $3.1 million. He is now suing for only $300,000. I believe the judge reduced the amount he could be awarded if he wins. |
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Post by auntkelly on Mar 23, 2023 13:33:45 GMT
I haven’t watched much of the trial. I just saw a few clips from the opening statements, so I don’t know if I believe this claimant’s story. However, if the claimant can convince the jury that it is more probable than not that the accident occurred as he said it did, and that he suffered damages as a result, then he is entitled to monetary damages.
According to the claimant, Paltrow’s kids, who were skiing with her and two skiing instructors yelled “watch us ski.” They went down the right side of the slope. Paltrow allegedly went down the left side of the slope and was watching her kids ski instead of paying attention to what was in front of her.
My understanding is that Paltrow is alleging the claimant ran into her, but I didn’t hear much of her attorney’s opening statement.
I understand one person claims to have seen the accident. I assume that person will testify. I’m also guessing that both sides will have experts who will testify as to how they think the accident occurred, just as in car wreck cases. The jury will have to decide whether the claimant proved his case by a preponderance of the evidence, which is the standard in civil cases.
I’m not sure, but I got the impression that the claimant is not alleging that Paltrow ran into him and then just skied off without checking to see if he was alright. My understanding is she thought he was okay and then skied off. He initially thought he was okay too, but later had to be carted down the mountain.
It’s an interesting case regardless of whether a celebrity was involved. I’m sure it wouldn’t be making the news if a celebrity wasn’t involved though. If I was still teaching business law, I’d have my students follow this case. It would make for a great class discussion about negligence.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 25, 2023 1:22:57 GMT
good grief..Paltrow is testifying and she says he ran into her from behind and one of he first thoughts was that it was a sexual assault and he was "doing something perverted". Yeah in a padded ski suit, men are crashing into her (her version) to masturbate  I’m not sure, but I got the impression that the claimant is not alleging that Paltrow ran into him and then just skied off without checking to see if he was alright. I read that's what he is claiming... and When he said to her, "I think you skied into me" she admits she turned around and screamed at him "You skied into my fucking back" at the top of her voice. She's not doing herself any favors here, she's sounding very entitled. I hope The Behaviour Panel guys on YouTube analyze this because her blink rate is going through the roof and she's making the strangest mouth movements. |
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2023 8:21:18 GMT
Apparently she wanted to bring in 'treats' for the courtroom. The judge said no  |
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Post by peasapie on Mar 25, 2023 11:34:32 GMT
Ridiculous. That guy is a gold digger.
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2023 11:47:42 GMT
Ridiculous. That guy is a gold digger. So why did he wait until now? I’m not disagreeing, just thinking about it. |
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Post by katlady on Mar 25, 2023 18:44:06 GMT
Ridiculous. That guy is a gold digger. So why did he wait until now? I’m not disagreeing, just thinking about it. CNN said that in 2019 they saw original documents that the guy filed. I don’t know if that means he filed in 2019, or that is when the documents were made public. So the paperwork has been in the court system at least 4 years. |
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Post by Gennifer on Mar 26, 2023 0:54:57 GMT
This is local to me, and even though I think Gwyneth Paltrow is pretty damn weird, this is clearly a cash grab from him.
Bottom line, it’s he said/she said. He said she ran into him, she said he ran into her. If he and I had collided, he wouldn’t be suing me. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 26, 2023 1:07:02 GMT
This is local to me, and even though I think Gwyneth Paltrow is pretty damn weird, this is clearly a cash grab from him. Bottom line, it’s he said/she said. He said she ran into him, she said he ran into her. If he and I had collided, he wouldn’t be suing me. 🤷🏼♀️ What I'm most confused about on this is there were FOUR instructors with Paltrow - surely someone saw something. Someone said there was going to be witness testimony, if a witness corroborates her story, I really don't understand how it went on this long. |
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Post by pjaye on Mar 26, 2023 1:13:50 GMT
So the paperwork has been in the court system at least 4 years. and let's not forget covid...that put a stop to a lot of legal cases for a time, and then there was a backlog to get through. I don't think in the light of a pandemic, that it's odd that it's taken this long to get to court. |
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