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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 24, 2023 13:34:50 GMT
It drives me crazy when places that shouldn’t require a tip have a jar out or ask about it on the screen. I don’t usually tip at those places regardless, but it just makes me feel guilty unnecessarily at times.
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Post by bbkeef on Mar 24, 2023 14:00:34 GMT
I ordered Papa Murphy's pizza online for pickup yesterday. And wouldn't you know it on the checkout screen the tip was automatically set on 15%. I noticed and changed it to a specific amount. I mean they make your pizza and put it on a shelf. I pick it up and go home and bake it. I've never tipped there before. I'm tired of all the "extra" tipping too.
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Mar 24, 2023 15:00:06 GMT
I will join your rant, Don. I went out to dinner at a fairly nice restaurant with my MeetUp group. When getting the check there was a 20% "service fee" which did not include the tip. So you are telling me that in addition to my $$$ dinner I am expected to pay an additional 35-40%? (tip + service fee) Not going to happen. We spoke to management and they explained that the cost of health insurance was included in that service fee. My feeling is that employee benefits are on the employer. If they want to be seen as a benevolent employer, they need to pay employees a fair wage and increase prices if needed. Don't tack on some ridiculous extra charge. I mean who in there right mind would pay 35-40% over their bill? There was an article in the Boston Globe not to long ago about restaurants doing this (adding the employee health insurance as a service fee) and they were saying that more were planning on doing it. I won't go to an establishment that does this. No way no how. And if I have to call a place first to see if this is their policy, I will. I'll tip in certain circumstances: dinner at a sit down restaurant. Delivered food. Hair stylist. Nail person. When I get a facial. When I'm having something delivered (like furniture/appliances). I used to tip at Dunks but their prices are out of hand and I only get a tea, black, no sugar (literally hot water and a tea bag) so I round up to the nearest dollar and tell them to keep the change (which, currently, is like $.12). I don't tip at McDonalds, Wendy's, etc. I don't tip at Five Guys when I go pick up my food and sit there. What drives me MENTAL lately is when you order something on the website and you get the message "would you like to tip us for doing a great job"? No I wouldn't. I don't know if you're doing a great job. WTF? I've seen it more and more lately. I'm so over tipping right now, I don't feel bad or feel guilted into tipping anymore. If someone wants to think badly of me, go for it. Don't care.
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chaosisapony
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 24, 2023 16:12:34 GMT
I'm sick of the expectation of leaving gigantic tips for people simply doing their jobs. I've done my jobs my entire life and no one has ever tipped me. Even when I worked minimum wage. And minimum wage here is the same for servers as it is for anyone else so you can't even use the "oh they only make $2/hour!" excuse. No, they don't. They make $15/hr. Which is the same amount an entry-level position in my office makes and I work for local government. I never knew you were supposed to tip your hair dresser until I read about it on 2 peas years ago. So, being horrified I hadn't been tipping her for years I tried to tip her and she laughed at me. Apparently she doesn't expect tips. She charges appropriately for her services and that's that. So now sometimes I'll bring her things from my garden. A bag of oranges, some of our olive oil, pomegranates, etc. She still won't accept it as a tip and adjusts the price of my bill according to what I brought her. The bakery down the street from my house used to just have a tip jar on the counter but now it's all attached to their credit card machine. So the first screen asks what tip you want to leave and gives you options between 15% and 25%. I just click skip every time because I see no reason to tip someone when all I've done is walk in, grab a box off a shelf, and brought it to the counter to be rung up.
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Post by scrapcat on Mar 24, 2023 16:15:53 GMT
I'm a generous tipper, but use discretion and totally agree. Really have to carefully review checkouts with service fees, suggested tips, etc. That's a great song, love it!
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Mar 24, 2023 17:28:51 GMT
Add me to the list of those who are so tired of be asked to tip for every freaking thing. Gah. It's ridiculous. No, I'm not going to tip at the auto parts store. Or McDonalds. Or really anyplace other than a sit down restaurant or a salon. And I find even tipping at a salon iffy, but I do it anyway.
I'm a good tipper. I think I always have been but these days, I tip even better. I typically figure 20%, then round that up. So if 20% comes out to $8, I'll go up to $10. Things like that. If I am having food or groceries delivered, I always tip well. Yesterday, I ordered groceries, and the total was $44 and I tipped $15. I figure it was money well spent to not have to go out on a gross, cold rainy day. LOL But I do not ever tip at places where you walk up to a counter, order your food, wait for it, get your own drink, clean up your table when you are finished. Nope.
I find it maddening that one is expected to tip at an auto parts store, but yet if you want to gift something to the nurse who cared for your loved one, you can't. If anyone deserves a tip, it's them.
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Post by tuva42 on Mar 24, 2023 17:38:53 GMT
I'm going to be the voice from the other side. I own a small business where service is key. We are a drop-in craft studio and we often go above and beyond to help people complete their crafts the way they want to see them done. We help people get paint, design their project, fix their mistakes, help their overemotional tween-ager when she melts down because the galaxy she is painting doesn't look perfect, bring their antsy preschooler paper and markers when they get tired on waiting on everyone else, clean up their spills, chat with them, and clean up everything after they leave.
I will NEVER put an automatic space for tips on my Square Stand where people check out. I have a tiny jar off to the side with a little sign that says "Tips Appreciated" but its not even front and center at the check out stand. It's only there because people have started asking about tipping in the last 2 years.
We've been open for 7.5 years and have run over 875 birthday parties. In the first 5 years I'll bet we got tips at 5 birthday parties total. Now we get tipped by about 1/4 of the parties. Sometimes cash, sometimes they ask to add it to the bill and pay with their credit card. This is totally unprompted. People are asking to tip us when they feel like we've gone above and beyond to give their child a good birthday party. My staff work really hard and its obvious to the adults. They see us running around like crazy. One weekend I made $70 in tips from just 2 parties.
In the last 2 years, I've suddenly seen more tipping from drop-in crafters. Particularly, when the group is in for a couple of hours and we teach them a new technique or give them significant help. I have one staff member who is the customer service king. He loves to help people create exactly what they are imagining. He gets a ton of tips. All of my staff are young, mostly high school and college students. I think people see them and realize they are working to pay for their education and want to help.
So I am happy to see the tips for my staff. We don't ask, never ask. Barely even provide a place to put tips, and still the tips are coming in. I think perhaps the desire to tip is in someway driving the business to provide a place for people to do the tipping. We saw what the pandemic did to people in the service industry and maybe we appreciate them a bit more now.
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 24, 2023 17:59:07 GMT
tuva42 I would happily tip at a place like yours if your staff helped me with a project. I am tipping more because I am just happy a restaurant or store has staff working! So many of my favorite small family restaurants have closed due to lack of staff and supply chain issues. I could cry! I do draw the line at retail establishments. I don't tip there. don I validate your frustration!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 18:04:47 GMT
I'm gonna add something about this new tipping attitude. Are businesses actually adding these tips to their w-2 (or 4, I get them mixed up all the time)?
Way back when I was newly divorced, I worked two jobs. One was at a small independent car wash. While they had blow dryers, they also had one or two guys at the end to dry off the excess. They were paid $8/hr (this was in 2003) to dry off cars. They were tipped frequently to a point where on a busy day, they could bring in $100+ easily. I know they never reported the tips. Knowing this, I give tip jars the side eye.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 24, 2023 18:09:25 GMT
I ordered at a bakery counter yesterday, she handed me the item and I put it in my (reusable) bag, paid at the terminal and the screen asking me how much I want to tip popped up. This bakery has no eat-in option, not even standing room. They hand you an item over the counter and somehow they think this warrants a tip. I go to a small local bakery where I take a little cake cup from the top of a case and the person behind the counter rings up my purchase - that's it, no bag, no eat-in, no handing me the item, and I still get the tip screen! I skip the screen. This person is doing the least amount of work for me than any place I patronize.
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Mar 25, 2023 16:08:11 GMT
I'm going to be the voice from the other side. I own a small business where service is key. We are a drop-in craft studio and we often go above and beyond to help people complete their crafts the way they want to see them done. We help people get paint, design their project, fix their mistakes, help their overemotional tween-ager when she melts down because the galaxy she is painting doesn't look perfect, bring their antsy preschooler paper and markers when they get tired on waiting on everyone else, clean up their spills, chat with them, and clean up everything after they leave. I will NEVER put an automatic space for tips on my Square Stand where people check out. I have a tiny jar off to the side with a little sign that says "Tips Appreciated" but its not even front and center at the check out stand. It's only there because people have started asking about tipping in the last 2 years. We've been open for 7.5 years and have run over 875 birthday parties. In the first 5 years I'll bet we got tips at 5 birthday parties total. Now we get tipped by about 1/4 of the parties. Sometimes cash, sometimes they ask to add it to the bill and pay with their credit card. This is totally unprompted. People are asking to tip us when they feel like we've gone above and beyond to give their child a good birthday party. My staff work really hard and its obvious to the adults. They see us running around like crazy. One weekend I made $70 in tips from just 2 parties. In the last 2 years, I've suddenly seen more tipping from drop-in crafters. Particularly, when the group is in for a couple of hours and we teach them a new technique or give them significant help. I have one staff member who is the customer service king. He loves to help people create exactly what they are imagining. He gets a ton of tips. All of my staff are young, mostly high school and college students. I think people see them and realize they are working to pay for their education and want to help. So I am happy to see the tips for my staff. We don't ask, never ask. Barely even provide a place to put tips, and still the tips are coming in. I think perhaps the desire to tip is in someway driving the business to provide a place for people to do the tipping. We saw what the pandemic did to people in the service industry and maybe we appreciate them a bit more now. This is different tho- you are actually spending TIME with people and TEACHING them and working WITH them. You're not just getting something that someone prepared already or pulling something off the shelf. I'd totally tip at your business because you're interacting with me more than just "can I take your order" and "Here's your order".
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Post by roundtwo on Mar 25, 2023 17:21:33 GMT
tuva42, I agree with seaexplore. If you were just handing me a brush and a piece of paper, I would feel the same as I mentioned earlier but you are providing much more service than handing me a cupcake from a display case. You are talking to customers and assisting people at your business, much like a waiter at a sit-down restaurant, where I quite happily tip.
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Post by tuva42 on Mar 26, 2023 1:43:17 GMT
tuva42 , I agree with seaexplore . If you were just handing me a brush and a piece of paper, I would feel the same as I mentioned earlier but you are providing much more service than handing me a cupcake from a display case. You are talking to customers and assisting people at your business, much like a waiter at a sit-down restaurant, where I quite happily tip. What is interesting is, that prior to the pandemic, we almost never saw tips. We worked just as hard, helped people just as much, expected no tips, and were shocked when 2 or 3 times a year we got a tip. My business was not one where I ever thought people might tip. But people are suddenly started to tip frequently. I wonder if people are beginning to think about tipping more, which is leading businesses to add tipping options to their cash registers more often.
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Post by Mary_K on Mar 26, 2023 2:58:54 GMT
I am tired of tipping.
Tired.
Businesses should pay their employees and I will choose if I want to pay their prices.
Tipping is to ensure good service? Good service should be provided anyway.
Just pay the employees and abolish tipping.
Don't think it will happen though.
Mary K
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